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I can relate. Moving the dining room table from its customary place is always a dangerous prospect for my dad and I (RIP chandelier). a-hard-days-night-paul-7a-hard-days-night-ringo-14

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Beatlebug said

RIP chandelier 

Two words that tell a tragic story a-hard-days-night-paul-7

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QuarryMan said

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RIP chandelier 

Two words that tell a tragic story a-hard-days-night-paul-7  

‘Twas tongue in cheek. The chandelier is fine; our heads, less so a-hard-days-night-paul-7

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I hope it wasn’t one of those spiky ones…

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50yearslate said
I hope it wasn’t one of those spiky ones…  

No, it’s rather sLeEk and m0dErN, thankfully.

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A couple years ago I posted something along those lines on here. I think it was John Lennon ‘s “Beef Jerky” but it had the lyrics for “My Mummy’s Dead

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@William Shears Campbell yeah and I think The Ballad Of Sir Frankie Crisp is also messed up a-hard-days-night-ringo-14

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Those are the lyrics they were thinking of in their head whilst they played their instruments. You’ll need to be telepathic to hear them.

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Recording drums. First, you have to put clothes and towels on the drums to prevent the notes from sustaining. Then, you have to worry about hitting your headphone cable while playing. Finally, when that’s all done, your hi hat fucks up halfway through the song because you’re using a cheap kit. And that’s the best i can hope for.

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You see, a lot of what you just described sounds easy enough to get around @Dark Overlord 

Personally when I record drums I almost never put anything on any of the drums – bar my wallet on the snare on perhaps one or two of the songs I’ve done. It actually makes less of a difference than you think.

You can loop your headphone cable behind your head so it’s not in front of you.

Hi-hats messing up is a harder one to get around…

For me, recording drums is annoying because of the number of mics I want to use isn’t always practical, as it takes forever to set up – but I don’t want to settle for anything less.

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My two favourite Brexit Pet Peeves… and how statistics can be given an importance which is misleading, deceptive and false…

First I point to the oft quoted:

17.4 million people voted for Brexit. The highest number of people who have voted for anything in our history.

Yeah, and…? We’re a multi-party state, and our votes are usually split between more than a half-dozen options, sometimes more than a dozen.

As a country, we rarely do binary votes, Yes/No. The last nationwide binary vote was the 1975 EEC membership vote. The population has grown by around 10 million in the intervening decades.

The second highest vote for anything in our history was the Remain vote.

The population grows, the vote grows, and is emphasised in an A or B vote…

And then there is the Leave/Remain vote split, the oft quoted:

52% leave against 48% remain (actually 51.89% leave against 48.11% remain to be precise)…

These percentages are portrayed as an accurate portrayal of how the UK divided that night over Brexit, and I’ll admit they are an accurate and honest of the vote back in 2016. However, when the voting figures are used to illustrate the opinion and direction of the country, it does not truly reflect what the electorate did on that 2016 night.

The turnout wasn’t particularly high, 72.21%; meaning that 27.79% of the electorate didn’t vote, and the 51.89% and 48.11% split is how the 72.21% who voted split. Were you to include those who didn’t vote, not assuming how they might have voted had they, the percentages look very different, and while leave still has the biggest vote, it’s nowhere near the 52% that’s claimed when you include the whole electorate.

When you include the whole electorate, the breakdown actually looks like this:

Leave 37.48%
Remain 34.73%
Did not vote 27.79%

Not quite as clear cut as the 52-48 would have you believe.

 

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That sucks but at least you guys don’t have a stupid electoral college and 2/3 majority like us Americans do. Here in the US, you can get 65% of the vote and still lose.

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Pet peeve: when people dismiss the electoral college without having a real understanding of what and why it is. a-hard-days-night-paul-7

The reason we have an electoral college is pretty simple: because it is the United States of America, not just one massive blob of country called America. It’s a necessary flywheel in the system because the US is such a large and diverse nation, with different areas having different interests. The EC guarantees that all the states have a say, because if it were abolished and a simple majority vote used to elect the president, states with massive urban populations would be the only ones that could have a real effect on the election. It protects minorities from tyranny of the majority, i.e. two wolves and a sheep voting on what’s for dinner.

The electoral college also applies only to the election for the office of the executive branch, which is not comparable to the Brexit vote (a referendum, not an election for a political leader). Representatives and senators are elected by popular vote, but they are elected by the people of each state to represent their state. Once again, we are a federation of individual states, not a blob. Now, if you wanna argue that we should be a blob instead of having states, that’s a whole other conversation, and I would argue strongly against the proposition in the event of such a conversation.

(I’m having a little too much fun using the word ‘blob’, sorry to all the countries that fit that description, no shade, you’re just a different thing and I don’t think it would work for America because of our diversity)

I’m sure you already know all this, I’m not sure why I have to tell you, but as an FYI for everyone else I suppose it serves some purpose…? mccartney-shrug_01_gif

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Thanks for explaining why it exists Bebu,  I’d never bothered to find out.

It sounds like the system we have here would work well for you – divide the country up into electorates of given population, and so the majority of the population of each electorate is either rural or urban. We have electorates of around 100,000 people each, so maybe in America 130,000 could work? That way everyone is equally represented, you don’t need the electoral college, and while you’re at it you could use preferential voting so people aren’t (effectively) limited to 2 options.

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On the electoral college, to me any system which means one person’s vote is worth more than another is deeply flawed. 

To put it another way, the three electors in Wyoming represent an average of 187,923 residents each. The 55 electors in California represent an average of 677,355 each, and that’s a disparity of 3.6 to 1.

I understand the reasons for it, but the affront to democracy it represents (“wE’rE a rEpuBliC nOt A dEmoCrAcY” a-hard-days-night-john-6) isn’t going away and if it delivers another result where the President Elect doesn’t have a majority of the votes, I’ll consider it a truly broken system. 

(But we should probably move this to Philosophy if there’s further discussion) 

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As I’ve always understood it……The US is a federation of states…..Just as the EU is. Proportionately the Maltese in the EU have a a greater say than more populous countries.

The US system of the Electoral College ensures that the views of the fly-over States are taken into consideration……If it was always the case that only the East and West coast belt-ways mattered in Federal elections it would irreparable weaken the Federation and undermine the very existence of the US…..

The drafters of the Constitution got a lot of things about right.

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When, as happened yesterday, a girlfriend who lives 5 mins away says at 1pm…..that, ‘I am coming see you now’…..

Through long experience of such matters I know  that there is often a very flexible interpretation of the word, ‘now’  I determine it’s wise to actually check and send a follow-up question, ‘OK what time will you be here?’…….. and she says…’ 4pm….’

When I say I think reasonably…… ‘If that’s the case….Change of plan…..Another day is better for me ‘……and she says….

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Pet peeve: when people dismiss the electoral college without having a real understanding of what and why it is. a-hard-days-night-paul-7

The reason we have an electoral college is pretty simple: because it is the United States of America, not just one massive blob of country called America. It’s a necessary flywheel in the system because the US is such a large and diverse nation, with different areas having different interests. The EC guarantees that all the states have a say, because if it were abolished and a simple majority vote used to elect the president, states with massive urban populations would be the only ones that could have a real effect on the election. It protects minorities from tyranny of the majority, i.e. two wolves and a sheep voting on what’s for dinner.

The electoral college also applies only to the election for the office of the executive branch, which is not comparable to the Brexit vote (a referendum, not an election for a political leader). Representatives and senators are elected by popular vote, but they are elected by the people of each state to represent their state. Once again, we are a federation of individual states, not a blob. Now, if you wanna argue that we should be a blob instead of having states, that’s a whole other conversation, and I would argue strongly against the proposition in the event of such a conversation.

(I’m having a little too much fun using the word ‘blob’, sorry to all the countries that fit that description, no shade, you’re just a different thing and I don’t think it would work for America because of our diversity)

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Maybe it was necessary back in Olden Times, but it’s very flawed now. Because I live in California, a state with a very large population, my vote counts for less than the vote of a person in, say, Rhode Island. And don’t tell me ‘no Fiddy, it’s equal because California has more electoral votes’ because all the electoral votes have to be the same, and if I’m a Republican voting for Republicans in California, the democratic majority will easily outnumber me and my vote won’t count for anything. However, if I was in Rhode Island, my vote would be much more significant in deciding where the electoral votes go, because there are less people in Rhode Island, and therefore less voters, and therefore less votes. My vote can’t be equal unless every person’s vote counts the same regardless of what state they’re in. 

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