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I feel ya @ScarlettFieldsForever, I find the F chord is easier if you wrap use your thumb for the bottom string. As for braces, all I can say is stick it out, time will fly by and before you know it you'll be free.

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School, which starts tomorrow.

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Beatlebug said
I feel ya @ScarlettFieldsForever, I find the F chord is easier if you wrap use your thumb for the bottom string. As for braces, all I can say is stick it out, time will fly by and before you know it you'll be free.

  

I've always been fine with E-shaped barre chords. A-shaped, not so much.

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50yearslate said
School, which starts tomorrow.

  

There'll be a time when you think back at school as being one of the best times of your life. 

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Tony Japanese said

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School, which starts tomorrow.

  

There'll be a time when you think back at school as being one of the best times of your life. 

  

Elementary or middle school maybe.

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What's wrong with High(?) School?

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A great many things, but mostly a debilitating amount of stress and some extreme social awkwardness. I am never, ever anything close to relaxed at that school.

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Tony Japanese said

I've always been fine with E-shaped barre chords. A-shaped, not so much.  

Yeah, those are worse. I use my ring finger to barre the three strings, but even so they're tiresome. The A-shape Bb is the most annoying one for me. I've been playing long enough that none of them really bother me, but after a while I do get fatigued.

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Beatlebug said

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I've always been fine with E-shaped barre chords. A-shaped, not so much.  

Yeah, those are worse. I use my ring finger to barre the three strings, but even so they're tiresome. The A-shape Bb is the most annoying one for me. I've been playing long enough that none of them really bother me, but after a while I do get fatigued.

  

On an electric I can make it sound ok - thinner necks and amplified sounds help hide any strings I haven't managed to fret correctly. On an acoustic, the problems are evident. 

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Tony Japanese said

There'll be a time when you think back at school as being one of the best times of your life. 

I highly doubt this will ever be the case for me, and I'm fine with it. I am extremely ready to be done with the constant human contact. I don't mind the "school" piece nearly as much. 

A pet peeve of mine is that they start school every year on what should be a short day, but instead it's a normal day so we can "adjust." The only we'll be adjusting to this year is even more pointless tests. 

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When people expect you to wear a coat when it's cold out, even though you'll be spending all day indoors. Our winters are just above freezing on average so it may seem like the logical thing to do but in all seriousness, it's a real PITA. When you get in the car, the heat's on so it's like 70°F in the car which would be fine on it's own but when you're wearing a winter coat, it feels like 100°F. Once you get indoors, it's about the same temperature and while you can fortunately remove your winter coat, it then feels stupid that you had one on in the first place considering you only spend 5 minutes a day outside during the winter. But when you decide you'd rather spend 5 minutes day out in 35°F weather then have to deal with that nonsense, people think it's strange and get concerned and you end up sticking out like a sore thumb.

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School, which starts tomorrow.

  

Unfortunately, me too. Registration at school is so annoying. And we have to endure some military training.paul-mccartney-facepalm_gif

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My condolences, Scarlett, that sounds rather dreadful ahdn_paul_01

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When your CD arrives from Amazon brand new (Taylor Swift - Reputation if you must ask) and the little dilly that holds the CD in the jewel case is BROKEN! 

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When (typically) conservatives conflate 'leftist' with 'liberal'. The kind of politics they criticize are not 'liberal' in any sense of the word. Classical liberalism is more of a center-right, libertarian quadrant position, and 'liberals' in the US are more center-left than the authoritarian progressive wing of today's left that centrists and right-wingers complain about.

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People who call themselves "George Harrison fans" just because they like Something and Here Comes The Sun . Most of them have never even heard of Long Long Long or Within You Without You

Also, people who insist the White Album should have been a single disc and try to force everyone else to think the same, while calling a lot of what actually makes it the White Album "filler." I don't care how smart you think you are, you're not smarter than The Beatles themselves. 

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Putting a spoiler here for those who aren't interested in political discussion, but:

 

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When (typically) conservatives conflate 'leftist' with 'liberal'. The kind of politics they criticize are not 'liberal' in any sense of the word. Classical liberalism is more of a center-right, libertarian quadrant position, and 'liberals' in the US are more center-left than the authoritarian progressive wing of today's left that centrists and right-wingers complain about.  

I agree to an extent, because it demonstrates how little understanding they have that they can come out with sentences like "these liberal communist Democrats" and not realise the ridiculousness of what they are saying. But I guess that is because (and I assume you're talking about the US here) the USA is so far to the right compared to other countries that neoliberalism seems like socialism to many people there.

However, I'll pick up on your use of the word libertarian for my pet peeve here: when people don't realise that the word actually originated to describe libertarian socialist/anarchist positions, first used in a political context by French thinkers Déjacque and Proudhon. The word persisted in that capacity until the 1950s when laissez-faire capitalists (a much more accurate term to use, in my opinion) tried to 'capture' it in reference to their own positions. To quote from Murray Rothband, who suggested his movement co-opt the term, 

One gratifying aspect of our rise to some prominence is that, for the first time in my memory, we, 'our side,' had captured a crucial word from the enemy. 'Libertarians' had long been simply a polite word for left-wing anarchists, that is for anti-private property anarchists, either of the communist or syndicalist variety. But now we had taken it over.

It's especially pet-peevey given that the right wing 'libertarian' position is barely libertarian at all, given that its positions essentially advocate passing over state power to unaccountable corporate power in a way that in practice vastly reduces individual liberty (a core tenet of the ideology) for the vast majority of the people. I'd recommend Chomsky's thought on this subject

But even if we assume that laissez-faire capitalist 'libertarianism' is actually true to the principles of classical liberalism, you don't acknowledge that there is more to liberalism than just the classical variety. Modern liberalism is most likely what the conservatives you talk about are referring to (though I doubt they realise that), particularly if they are complaining about Bernie Sanders or AOC or whoever, as it is fairly synonymous with what is known in the US as progressivism. In John Rawls' 1971 book 'A Theory of Justice' he discusses the concept of 'justice as fairness', which recognises that freedom without economic freedom is worth much less, and thus advocates for an enabling state using progressive redistributive taxation to maximise individual liberty that way. In real terms, Rawls would probably argue for nationalised healthcare because the individual who has it guaranteed is arguably more free than the one who is saddled with huge insurance debts and constant worry about falling ill. This reddit user does a pretty good endorsement of it:

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To be honest, aside from my dislike of laissez-faire capitalism, I'm not really trying to debate here, just to clarify a few things. 

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People who call themselves "George Harrison fans" just because they like Something and Here Comes The Sun . Most of them have never even heard of Long Long Long or Within You Without You

Also, people who insist the White Album should have been a single disc and try to force everyone else to think the same, while calling a lot of what actually makes it the White Album "filler." I don't care how smart you think you are, you're not smarter than The Beatles themselves. 

  

1. Is there a minimum number of George Harrison songs you need to know before you're allowed to be classed as a 'fan'? I'll admit I'm not overly familiar with his solo work post All Things Must Pass I don't want to offend you by claiming to like George Harrison and not knowing how Dark Horse goes.

2. Not every decision the band made was a good one. If you prefer The White Album as it is, that's fine. Some people think it would serve better as a single disc - again that's fine. Intelligence has nothing to do with it and to be fair, some of The White Album isn't very good compared to The Beatles' usual high standards. 

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Tony Japanese said

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People who call themselves "George Harrison fans" just because they like Something and Here Comes The Sun . Most of them have never even heard of Long Long Long or Within You Without You

Also, people who insist the White Album should have been a single disc and try to force everyone else to think the same, while calling a lot of what actually makes it the White Album "filler." I don't care how smart you think you are, you're not smarter than The Beatles themselves. 

  

1. Is there a minimum number of George Harrison songs you need to know before you're allowed to be classed as a 'fan'? I'll admit I'm not overly familiar with his solo work post All Things Must Pass I don't want to offend you by claiming to like George Harrison and not knowing how Dark Horse goes.

2. Not every decision the band made was a good one. If you prefer The White Album as it is, that's fine. Some people think it would serve better as a single disc - again that's fine. Intelligence has nothing to do with it and to be fair, some of The White Album isn't very good compared to The Beatles' usual high standards. 

  

1. I think there's a difference between liking someone, and being a fan.  I could say I like Herman's Hermits because I know a handful of their songs and enjoy them.  I wouldn't say I'm a fan, though, because I don't actively seek them out and listen to them.  However I would say I'm and Eagles fan.  I don't know everything about them, but I do know all their songs, and I saw them live.  You could also be a fan if you just actively seek out their songs and would see them live you had the chance.

 

2.  I agree with SF91 on both his opinion and the fact that I don't think people need to shove the 1 Disc White Album down peoples throats.  It's fine to speculate and whatnot, but no matter how much you argue the point, the album is still gonna be the same.  If you want a 1 disc White Album , make a playlist and be done with it.

 

Pet peeve of the day.  Sleep.  Why do I have to sleep?  I could do so much more if I could be awake 24/7.

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I apologise if I came across as petty in my reply, but it irks me when I detect what I think is competitive fandom, especially in regards to point number one. There are people on here who know more than you or I do about the Beatles, but I'd hate to think they would ever use that as a stick to beat us with. I'm sure @StrawberryFields91 didn't mean anything by it but rather than be dismissive of people for not having heard Long Long Long or Within You Without You (for example), encourage them to give them a listen and then perhaps you can discuss what you like/dislike about George and his songs.

Also, I completely agree with you @William Shears Campbell: it's fine to have an opinion about something, but what you shouldn't do is try and force that opinion down somebody's throat. That also goes for politics, religion etc. The beauty of modern technology is that I could, if I wanted to, curate my own version of The White Album . I never have done because I like it as it is. ahdn_john_08_gif

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