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Neil Young appreciation thread
28 May 2015
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Firstly, do we have one? Apologies if we do.

Next; critical comments are okay - I know he can be a polarising performer.

Third, Wiki has a good primer:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neil_Young

I have pretty much everything Neil has released; from studio through live CDs, movies (Greendale), videos and bootlegs. The only substantive one I don't have is Anthology Volume 1 because it is so darned expensive in the version I want. Unlike the Beatles, where I am still sadly lagging in listening to the solo albums, I have pretty much listened to / watched it all in an amazing journey of (re)discovery. The only ones I haven't listened to yet are the last 2 studio CDs, which I am saving for a (really) rainy day.

I saw Neil and Crazy Horse perform in Sydney in 2013 in an amazing show (you may have seen my post on the topic - I'm pretty sure they played a song just for me as it was one they almost never do live and I had made a wish on a popular Neil website that they play it in Sydney. Some fellow "Rusties" I met at the show had seen my post and commented on its inclusion in our after-show chat).

I hardly know where to begin in discussing his musical and other accomplishments except to say I love the variety of material he produces (I know a lot of folks can't quite cope with the diversity). In his autobiographical ramble Waging Heavy Peace he mentions some of his pals; Paul, Bob and Bruce - there are some musical connections there that should resonate with most of us here. 'Back in the day' pretty much everyone either had a copy of After the Goldrush or an opinion on it. He has been a part of Buffalo Springfield and CSNY, amongst other well-known collaborations.

Okay - we are open for discussion. Opinions, questions and comments are welcome. I know we have a lot of interest from our 'listening' thread, the 'soundtrack' thread, the 'desert island' threads and others.

I'm looking forward to the release of his next CD in June - The Monsanto Years - which already has people in a tizzy.

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I have 'Harvest' - i've heard a couple of tracks - i dont have any desire to hear the rest or more.

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Honestly (and, no, I'm not looking for an argument), this forthcoming album might be enough to make me say that I'm no longer a fan of his, for ideological reasons.  I've already unliked his Facebook page.

Like I said, I'm not looking for an argument, so I don't want to go into much more detail than that.

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I love arguments……5555!

I actually know very little about Nil Young….!! But why would we have an appreciation thread for him here? Has he ever collaborated with the Beatles? Maybe we have lots of artists appreciation threads and I'm just not familiar enough with the board. I do remember a post or two about Fleetwood Mac…so….?

Anyway……I love the ostinato and enjoy playing on Uke that song "Harvest Moon" I really do like that song……And I remember I bought the single 'Old Man' when I was young and foolish but I regretted it…….It's his voice!

I have a mate who idolizes him…Thinks he's one of the best guitarists too. I don't get it myself. Sounds like Micky Mouse is singing to me.  

  

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meanmistermustard said
I have 'Harvest' - i've heard a couple of tracks - i dont have any desire to hear the rest or more.

The thing with Neil is that any one of his albums is not representative of his body of work, he changes style so often. There are fans who hate that album and like his more rock-oriented works and vice-versa. Not to mention his trips into rockabilly, electronica, the blues and on it goes.

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Has he done rag time jazz numbers?

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Necko said
Honestly (and, no, I'm not looking for an argument), this forthcoming album might be enough to make me say that I'm no longer a fan of his, for ideological reasons.  I've already unliked his Facebook page.

Like I said, I'm not looking for an argument, so I don't want to go into much more detail than that.

Likewise on the arguments; but I personally have no problem with an artist being up-front about his politics (and the next album on my personal journey here is Sometime In New York City which certainly had lots of people jumping up and down when it was released).

Of course, I also have no problem with anyone not buying any albums they might dislike for whatever reasons.

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meanmistermustard said
Has he done rag time jazz numbers?

Possibly - his last album was recorded with various orchestras and bands in various configurations - I'll let you know after I listen to it 🙂

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Atlas said
I love arguments……5555!

I actually know very little about Nil Young….!! But why would we have an appreciation thread for him here? Has he ever collaborated with the Beatles? Maybe we have lots of artists appreciation threads and I'm just not familiar enough with the board. I do remember a post or two about Fleetwood Mac…so….?

Anyway……I love the ostinato and enjoy playing on Uke that song "Harvest Moon" I really do like that song……And I remember I bought the single 'Old Man' when I was young and foolish but I regretted it…….It's his voice!

I have a mate who idolizes him…Thinks he's one of the best guitarists too. I don't get it myself. Sounds like Micky Mouse is singing to me.  

  

I appreciate the issues with his voice, Bob Dylan has suffered from the same problems.

This is the off-topic forum and we discuss a lot of our other varied musical interests here. And yes, he does have Beatles connections in a number of ways, just not many direct collaborations (though he shared a song with George and others at 'Bobfest' - the Dylan 25th anniversary show).

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My friend's a big Neil Young fan; I only like a couple of his tunes.  My friend over the years has insisted on sharing various Neil Young songs with me, and there is one thing about Neil Young that most people who aren't fans probably don't know -- he experiments rather wildly with diferent styles and genres, from the grungiest Grunge to metal to straight rock to heartful folk to old fashioned country...

I did see a YouTube of him and Paul jamming together (fairly recently) on stage for a rendition of A Day In The Life .

My favorite Neil Young song (with the "Shocking Pinks"):

Wonderin'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?.....a6A6oTFdcw

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I taught myself guitar to Harvest and I love Ragged Glory but I've never seriously tried to keep up with his output, he's too busy for me 😀

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trcanberra said

Atlas said
I love arguments……5555!

I actually know very little about Nil Young….!! But why would we have an appreciation thread for him here? Has he ever collaborated with the Beatles? Maybe we have lots of artists appreciation threads and I'm just not familiar enough with the board. I do remember a post or two about Fleetwood Mac…so….?

Anyway……I love the ostinato and enjoy playing on Uke that song "Harvest Moon" I really do like that song……And I remember I bought the single 'Old Man' when I was young and foolish but I regretted it…….It's his voice!

I have a mate who idolizes him…Thinks he's one of the best guitarists too. I don't get it myself. Sounds like Micky Mouse is singing to me.  

  

I appreciate the issues with his voice, Bob Dylan has suffered from the same problems.

This is the off-topic forum and we discuss a lot of our other varied musical interests here. And yes, he does have Beatles connections in a number of ways, just not many direct collaborations (though he shared a song with George and others at 'Bobfest' - the Dylan 25th anniversary show).

 

Thanks……..I see how it works now.

Just personal taste……I like Dylan's voice……….but can appreciate why others might not.  

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ewe2 said
I taught myself guitar to Harvest and I love Ragged Glory but I've never seriously tried to keep up with his output, he's too busy for me 😀

I came to Ragged Glory late and really liked it a LOT. He played a couple of tracks from it when I saw him in concert, including leading off with Love And Only Love, oh, and a taped intro of A Day In The Life - there's that song again 🙂

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Neil is one of many artists I enjoy but is noticeably lacking from my collection. I only have Harvest (which Zag and I adore) and the Decade compilation.

If you want to connect the dots to the Beatles a little more, Harvest can help us out. Former Apple recording artist James Taylor sings backing vocals along with Linda Ronstadt on 'Old Man' and 'Heart Of Gold'. Graham Nash, who sings backing vocal on 'Are You Ready for the Country?' and 'Words (Between the Lines of Age)', was one of the many guests in the studio during the broadcast of 'All You Need Is Love '. The London Symphony Orchestra backed Neil on 'A Man Needs A Maid' and 'There's A World'. Members of that same orchestra contributed to 'A Day In The Life '. Loose connections maybe, but that's all on one album. Now that I'm done playing 6 degrees to the Beatles... 

I saw Neil live only once, but is was over several hours. He headlined one of those Lollapaloozaholycraphowmanybandsarehere? shows. He jammed with every band that performed and played his own set at the end. His energy was awe inspiring. You could not wipe the smile off his face. I won't say I like everything he's ever done but I enjoy enough of it to be highly interested when his name comes up. 

I wish I could find the video that was going around years ago of him in a record store. It was relatively early in his solo career. He was browsing through the albums when he came across a bootleg album of his stuff. He started giving the poor schmo behind the counter rations of shit demanding to know where the store got the album as it was not an official release. The counter guy had no clue and said he would call the manager. After some verbal sparring, Neil tucked the album under his arm and walked out of the store with it basically saying, "if your store is going to steal from me, I'm stealing from you". I've looked for it, but can't find it anymore.

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He did a very good live version of "Imagine " a while back to honour John Lennon .yoko-ono_01

The man has a lot of Hits, and" lots & lots" of albums.  I'm not a big fan of all his albums, but have about 3 albums worth of hits on my iTunes and they are great songs!

 I was however disappointed to see him "Live" and he only played a handful of hits, and the rest was from his new album, which hardly anyone knew.  People were walking out in droves. I wanted to get him off my bucket list, and was soooooooo disappointed!

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Strange isn't it, the whole going to see someone in concert. @Bongo was disappointed Neil Young didnt play more of his hits yet many people (including myself) are irked that Paul plays mostly his hits (Beatles/solo/Wings) and not more of the deeper cuts (see the reaction to 'Temporary Secretary '). Shows what predicament such stars are in.

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Well, it makes sense that if someone knows mostly the hits, then that's what they'd want to hear. Neil Young's got a lot of fanatical followers who see him often, so they're the ones who would appreciate deep cuts more. 

I like Neil, got maybe a dozen of his albums, but am not part of the cult that worships everything he's done. Sometimes I get the impression that he gets praise for being careless/sloppy/lazy/whatever, and his defenders will justify it with something like "Only Neil Young can get away with doing something like that!" And I just think "Well, he can if you say he can. Or can he?" 

Anyways, yeah, one single album is not enough to judge him by. Unless it's that "Decade" collection, maybe.

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A couple more Neil Young / Beatle connections under the spoiler...

 

Neil and Ringo on stage together during the closing number of The Last Waltz along with a who's who of early rock & roll royalty.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKXnL46CSC0

After the concert, nobody in the audience left. Out trotted a gaggle of musicians for an impromptu jam session including Neil and Ringo.

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Strange isn't it, the whole going to see someone in concert. @Bongo was disappointed Neil Young didnt play more of his hits yet many people (including myself) are irked that Paul plays mostly his hits (Beatles/solo/Wings) and not more of the deeper cuts (see the reaction to 'Temporary Secretary '). Shows what predicament such stars are in.

Ya, I love that McCartney actually played "Mrs. Vanderbilt" at the last concert I saw of his in Montreal.  Talk about a deep cut.  That was awesome.  Unfortunately Neil Young's deep cuts just aren't (in my opinion) nowhere as good as Macca's.a-hard-days-night-paul-11

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