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Musical Genius
8 December 2016
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Some current day geniuses:

Hope Sandoval

Sufjan Stevens

Joanna Newsom

Laetitia Sadier

"This Beatles talk bores me to death.” —John Lennon 

8 December 2016
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@Expert Textpert said
Some current day geniuses:
Hope Sandoval
Sufjan Stevens
Joanna Newsom
Laetitia Sadier  

But that's like listing Bob Dylan, Paul McCartney , Debbie Harry, Bruce Springsteen.

Laetitia's been around since the late '80s, Hope early '90s, Sufjan mid-'90s, and Joanna since around 2000.

None of them are new to the scene.

I think @Starr Shine?'s point was more about an ignorance of breaking artists.

"I only said we were bigger than Rod... and now there's all this!" Ron Nasty

 

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8 December 2016
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Oh, I thought it was just supposed to be "living artists who are newer than classic rock." I have some friends in bands who are more up on breaking artists. There is really way too much music being released for me to keep track of it all. I hear them say there is a ton of great music being released but I don't really have time for it. You have to know where to look.

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10 December 2016
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The other problem with the genius tag is that everyone across cultures has to agree, otherwise what's the point. Music is now split via culture as well as genre, and a popular top 40 artist isn't the cultural barometer it was. So popular music geniuses are very hard to come by.  And although I agree a lot with that Page quote, "classical" music was developmental, and not the bar by which all other music should be measured: it is just another way of thinking about music. People like Bach and Mozart do not come by every day but neither do Louis Armstrong, Duke Ellington, or Miles Davis. Bernie Worrell was a child prodigy and most people wouldn't have a clue who he was. So genius doesn't have the brand recognition it once had, either.

Old codger that I am, I listen to contemporary electronic music and there's a lot of exciting stuff in it, but the serious stuff has the same general interest as prog rock did after punk! Someone will come along in a few years and build on that and be called a genius because 3/4 of the listening public don't know what the other 1/4 know, and that's the state of music these days.

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