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Most overrated Band ever?
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vonbontee said
Ooh man, the Eagles are terrible. It's a true wonderment that such a ball of sour cynicism and weak songwriting and misogyny and bad drumming and antirocking-in-general could've sold so many millions of records - including the biggest goddamn selling album ever! So they could harmonize a little, big deal. Aren't there a few dozen bands who could do it better? (Yes.)

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I once had a person tell me they, The Eagles, were better than The Beatles because they could harmonize. I beg to differ. 

And the majority of their songs sound the same apart from Hotel California. 

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Well, I wouldn't say they necessarily all sound exactly the same - they have several different shades of bland!

How do I know this? Well, a bunch of us at this other music message forum I frequent ("I Love Music") participated in a little project last year - from August through December, we went through the entire Eagles catalog, chronologically from first to last album, posting a song everyday and commenting (very negatively) upon them, mixed in with recollections of anecdotes, interviews, and little-known facts about all the horrible Eagles behaviour in their prime, and their worthless solo careers afterwards. It was masochistic but very funny. More than one forum members reached the conclusion "worst band ever".

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[Actually, there's maybe a dozen Eagles tracks that I think are fairly decent, for what it's worth.]

GEORGE: In fact, The Detroit Sound. JOHN: In fact, yes. GEORGE: In fact, yeah. Tamla-Motown artists are our favorites. The Miracles. JOHN: We like Marvin Gaye. GEORGE: The Impressions, Marvin Gaye. PAUL & GEORGE: Mary Wells. GEORGE: The Exciters. RINGO: Chuck Jackson. JOHN: To name but eighty. 

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The Eagles and Rush for me.

Agree. 

My dad's got this Rush concert dvd thing and he plays it every time he gets the chance and it's..well, not unlistenable, but very boring and I'm tired of it. As for the Eagles, I've heard a few songs and I don't like them either. Boring and they don't stuck. Oh and I don't like Hotel California that much either.

As for Oasis, I love them and I can't really say they're overrated, because in the Netherlands they simply aren't. And a few of their albums are great. I just think Liam is overrated as a frontman. He's often hailed as one of the best frontmen ever. What's so exciting about a dude standing with his hands on his back and the microphone nearly in his nose? Plus his voice became horribly bad some years ago, and his drunk brawling is just blegh. I can completely understand why Beady Eye doesn't do well.

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I don't mind some Eagles tracks in small doses but they get very tiring after a small handful of tracks. Hotel California is ok but lasts way too long and is nowhere as good as some would make out.

As said above i cant stand Oasis and hate how Liam sings (ripping off John's Rain vocal and applying to every track of i've heard him sing). She's Electric has some of the shittest lyrics i've ever heard. How folk can berate Paul yet excuse shite like "She's got a sister, And God only knows how I've missed her, And on the palm of her hand is a blister, And I need more time"? mystifies me.

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vonbontee said

[Actually, there's maybe a dozen Eagles tracks that I think are fairly decent, for what it's worth.]

I could put together a decent double-album's worth of songs I like by the Eagles. But from all I've read and observed, Don Henley and Glenn Frey are not likable guys. They're chock-full of themselves, and yeah I think a lot of their lyrics are misogynistic and phony/sanctimonious. After all his boorish, hedonistic shenanigans, Henley had the nerve to whine about his "unfair persecution" in "Dirty Laundry." And I've read many articles where Frey comes off as an even more self-centered jerk. So, I like some of their songs, but I think they qualify as a vastly overrated band.

Now, it would be kind of funny if Joe, the Beatles Bible founder, was a huge Eagles fan, and then, just like in the Big Lebowski video, he yelled at me "Get the %$#&@ out of my forum." I don't think that's gonna happen… but I've been wrong before. ;-)

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Linde said

Sky999 said
The Eagles and Rush for me.

Agree. 

My dad's got this Rush concert dvd thing and he plays it every time he gets the chance and it's..well, not unlistenable, but very boring and I'm tired of it. As for the Eagles, I've heard a few songs and I don't like them either. Boring and they don't stuck. Oh and I don't like Hotel California that much either.

As for Oasis, I love them and I can't really say they're overrated, because in the Netherlands they simply aren't. And a few of their albums are great. I just think Liam is overrated as a frontman. He's often hailed as one of the best frontmen ever. What's so exciting about a dude standing with his hands on his back and the microphone nearly in his nose? Plus his voice became horribly bad some years ago, and his drunk brawling is just blegh. I can completely understand why Beady Eye doesn't do well.

Ireland has some weird obsession with Oasis, every time I go to a house party some arsehole picks up a guitar and drunkenly plays 'Wonderwall'.

Over

and over

and over

Again

ARGH!

 

Although I do often say this to people:

 

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Again, I really like Oasis. I also love Rush. The Eagles, on the other hand, are ridiculously boring.

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meanmistermustard said
I don't mind some Eagles tracks in small doses but they get very tiring after a small handful of tracks. Hotel California is ok but lasts way too long and is nowhere as good as some would make out.

As said above i cant stand Oasis and hate how Liam sings (ripping off John's Rain vocal and applying to every track of i've heard him sing). She's Electric has some of the shittest lyrics i've ever heard. How folk can berate Paul yet excuse shite like "She's got a sister, And God only knows how I've missed her, And on the palm of her hand is a blister, And I need more time"? mystifies me.

Well, I can't disagree with that. Love the song though. Supersonic has some very stupid lyrics too. 

I don't really like Liam's voice either. I actually prefer Noel's voice.

Anyway, overrated bands:

The Script, Imagine Dragons..

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Linde said

meanmistermustard said
I don't mind some Eagles tracks in small doses but they get very tiring after a small handful of tracks. Hotel California is ok but lasts way too long and is nowhere as good as some would make out.

As said above i cant stand Oasis and hate how Liam sings (ripping off John's Rain vocal and applying to every track of i've heard him sing). She's Electric has some of the shittest lyrics i've ever heard. How folk can berate Paul yet excuse shite like "She's got a sister, And God only knows how I've missed her, And on the palm of her hand is a blister, And I need more time"? mystifies me.

Well, I can't disagree with that. Love the song though. Supersonic has some very stupid lyrics too. 

I don't really like Liam's voice either. I actually prefer Noel's voice.

Anyway, overrated bands:

The Script, Imagine Dragons..

To quote:

"Them's fightin' words"

Question: Is this based off Radioactive/Demons? Give Night Visions a listen as a whole. It's fantastic.

At least I agree with you on Oasis.

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IveJustSeenAFaceo said

Linde said

meanmistermustard said
I don't mind some Eagles tracks in small doses but they get very tiring after a small handful of tracks. Hotel California is ok but lasts way too long and is nowhere as good as some would make out.

As said above i cant stand Oasis and hate how Liam sings (ripping off John's Rain vocal and applying to every track of i've heard him sing). She's Electric has some of the shittest lyrics i've ever heard. How folk can berate Paul yet excuse shite like "She's got a sister, And God only knows how I've missed her, And on the palm of her hand is a blister, And I need more time"? mystifies me.

Well, I can't disagree with that. Love the song though. Supersonic has some very stupid lyrics too. 

I don't really like Liam's voice either. I actually prefer Noel's voice.

Anyway, overrated bands:

The Script, Imagine Dragons..

To quote:

"Them's fightin' words"

Question: Is this based off Radioactive/Demons? Give Night Visions a listen as a whole. It's fantastic.

At least I agree with you on Oasis.

IveJustSeenAFaceo said

Linde said

meanmistermustard said
I don't mind some Eagles tracks in small doses but they get very tiring after a small handful of tracks. Hotel California is ok but lasts way too long and is nowhere as good as some would make out.

As said above i cant stand Oasis and hate how Liam sings (ripping off John's Rain vocal and applying to every track of i've heard him sing). She's Electric has some of the shittest lyrics i've ever heard. How folk can berate Paul yet excuse shite like "She's got a sister, And God only knows how I've missed her, And on the palm of her hand is a blister, And I need more time"? mystifies me.

Well, I can't disagree with that. Love the song though. Supersonic has some very stupid lyrics too. 

I don't really like Liam's voice either. I actually prefer Noel's voice.

Anyway, overrated bands:

The Script, Imagine Dragons..

To quote:

"Them's fightin' words"

Question: Is this based off Radioactive/Demons? Give Night Visions a listen as a whole. It's fantastic.

At least I agree with you on Oasis.

I have absolutely no idea what ''Them's fightin' words'' means. 

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[Actually, there's maybe a dozen Eagles tracks that I think are fairly decent, for what it's worth.]

I could put together a decent double-album's worth of songs I like by the Eagles. But from all I've read and observed, Don Henley and Glenn Frey are not likable guys. They're chock-full of themselves, and yeah I think a lot of their lyrics are misogynistic and phony/sanctimonious. After all his boorish, hedonistic shenanigans, Henley had the nerve to whine about his "unfair persecution" in "Dirty Laundry." And I've read many articles where Frey comes off as an even more self-centered jerk. So, I like some of their songs, but I think they qualify as a vastly overrated band.

Oh man, agreed. Henley & Frey are the worst - awful people! Except I think Henley is worse, or at least in certain ways. (And yet I'll take his "Boys Of Summer" over any Eagles song anyday, go figure! Classic song.)

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Linde said

I have absolutely no idea what ''Them's fightin' words'' means. 

Old-timey Americanism - nowadays, it's used as a joke - to challenge someone to a fight after they've been insulted. Funnier if said in a Southern or Old West accent.

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parlance said

Linde said

I have absolutely no idea what ''Them's fightin' words'' means. 

Old-timey Americanism - nowadays, it's used as a joke - to challenge someone to a fight after they've been insulted. Funnier if said in a Southern or Old West accent.

parlance

Thanks for explaining! I now get it completely.

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I'm putting this out there. And remember Abba fans the first three words of the next sentence before firing off your posts in their defence.

Not most ever but definitely overrated are Abba.

Folk are going to jump up and down growling at such a suggestion wailing to the heavens.

I like some Abba stuff. I hear 2 or 3 of their songs in a row and think "damn good songs" (they do have a good number of good songs) and want to hear more. And then i do (i bought The Visitors after watching a documentary, that is why i write this, it has strengths but the same problem as every bloody thing else Abba have). And i then i get bored. And then i get annoyed. And then i never want to hear another Abba song ever. And then i dont listen to them for months before the process is repeated.

Ask the large majority of those who claim Abba are one of the greatest bands ever their best album and the same one will always be the answer - Gold. A 19 track greatest hits. Ask for any other album and it will be filled with umm's, ahh's, gulps, long pauses and then they will blurt our More Gold: More Hits out of sheer desperation (they wont know its correct name however). They haven't got a clue past one compilation.

And thats not the worst thing. So much of Abba's stuff is written from the rhyming dictionary and its poor bordering on laughable; luck, duck, glasgow, last show, queen, tambourine, money, sunny, occupation, station.

And that's not the worst thing. 

The worst thing is exactly why folk like them - their over the top pop twee. Cheesy pop that is so good on the first taste so you have a couple more bites and a couple more and then you start feeling sick and then you want to reach into your stomach and rip out your innards because you've overdosed on the sugar and so badly want to stop feeling that way and rid of the taste. 

And on hearing this fans will probably quote Dancing Queen as their example of why Abba are so utterly brilliant and deserving. Sorry but Dancing Queen is shite. Pop twee at its absolute worst - i detest the song with a roaring heated venom shooting out of my eyeballs and nostrils.

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I like Rush; however, I suppose I hate how people treat them like they are the greatest band of all time or some type of gods. They are good, but not great in my opinion at least.

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Well, I wouldn't say they necessarily all sound exactly the same - they have several different shades of bland!

I can agree with that. 

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Guns 'N Roses  Honestly can't see the infatuation.  And I'm way into hard rock.  Their celebrity has more credibility than their catalog.

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The Beatles.

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Not sure whether to go along with it and say ''I know right, they're pretty annoying lads'' or point out that that joke has been made too many times.

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I never knew quite what to make of Mr. Big's old sig - "Best band? The Beatles. Most overrated band? The Beatles" - or where he got it from (it was in quotation marks.)

You're a bit hard on Abba there, meanmm! You can't expect their lyrics to be that great when English is their second language. (And I happen to think "Arrival" is their best album, not "Gold")

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I like Desperado, Boys of Summer and a number of other Eagles tracks (solo and group) though they are not in my top 10.  I like their vocals, but not necessarily for their harmonies (which the Everly Brothers, Simon & Garfunkel, The Beach Boys , CSNY and a number of others do better anyway).

There are so many bands or singers I feel are overrated, but that is only because I happen not to like their music as much as other people do (like every rap star in existence).

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