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*BUMP!*

 

This thread hasn't been touched for 2.5 years, so I thought it was time to get talking again in the Thread Zeppelin.

 

I've just spent a day de-Christmasing my place and listening to the 11-CD Studio Sessions bootleg series.  I've always wondered why there was never an official collection of 'Anthology'-style outtakes, rehearsals and demos.  I know that the band (Page, really) had a very strict quality-control standard, but there's so many cool things that really should see the light of day.

 

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Page says that Zeppelin deluxe reissues are coming starting in 2013 - with lots of extras! :D :D :D
Can't remember if they're supposed to be 2CD sets or that's just my feverish imagination. I'm definitely hoping for official releases of "Sugar Mama" and "Sunshine Woman" and "Jennings Farm Blues", all that stuff - anything that's releaseable, really.

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The "Jennings Farm Blues" stuff is so much fun to hear.  

I'd really be excited to see what type of material Pagey will add to the discs.  A lot of the demos that I've heard are pretty rough, but that might just be a result of generations of bootlegs.  I'd really be interested in studio outtakes, but I'll take anything.  

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Story time! A few months ago my local record store got a giant shipment, I mentioned it on the vinyl thread then. There were sooo many records that not all of them were in good enough condition to sell. I was there when they were sorting through some of them for those records that weren't of sellable quality, and the owner said I could just take any if I was interested. I saw him put a copy of Zeppelin III in the pile and that's one of those records that has a really cool cover, with the pinwheel, so I took it because, hey it was free! It wasn't way too bad, but it skipped through most of the Immigrant Song and wasn't the most pleasant listen (pops, etc.) so I put it away.
Up until that point, and pretty much 'til now, I only knew the most popular Zeppelin songs. A few days ago I looked up III on YouTube and listened to about one-third of the album (the deluxe one) before my iPod died. I thought it was amazing so just bought the deluxe CD on Amazon and got the AutoRip download. So I'll give a review of that after I hear it all, but I'm sure I'll love it.

This thread has been dormant for a few years, so I'm curious as to what the current Forumpudlians think of Zeppelin. What is everyone's favorite album? Any recommendations for me after I'm done with III?

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Here's my Led Zeppelin story...

I'm in high school. It's 1969 and this hot new band has a hot new album. They're playing in the US for the first time - Carnegie Hall no less. I'm in charge of buying a dozen tickets for my classmates. I go to the box office and an older woman with blue hair (poor dye job) shows me the floor plan. "Where do you want to sit?" "Can I sit anywhere?" "Sure."
"Even here?, " I ask pointing to the front row. "Sure." "I'll take twelve." "Sure."     With that, I return to school the next day - Big Man On Campus.

The day of the concert arrives, and we all go to the front row. The usher looks at the tickets, points to the back and says, "You're in the last row."

The bitch with the blue hair probably took one Look At Me with my long hair and thought "Screw him if he can't read the Carnegie Hall floor plan."

Still a great concert. Jimmy Page did a fabulous acoustic piece by himself. Did it again in later concerts in the 70s. Somebody here will know the name of the song.

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That acoustic piece would've been "White Summer/Black Mountain Side", Mr. Diamonds. Great story! You're lucky to be born in the time/place that you were, I think. :)

@Mr. Kite - Led Zeppelin III is pretty fabulous, on many days my favourite Zeppelin album. I like to think of the Zep album release trajectory kinda matching The Beatles' (except that Zep's album career didn't end with a glorious Abbey Road - more of a tepid Let It Be); and with that in mind, III is like their Rubber Soul or Revolver - parts of both. They branch out into unusual, acoustic instruments and varied forms of folksong alongside the heavy grooving stuff. There's a just-released 2CD reissue just out that looks pretty nice, probably buy that myself when I have the coin. (Unfortunately the first two reissues dropped the ball somewhat - I was hoping for a "Sugar Mama" and "Sunshine Woman" :( )

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7 July 2014
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I never saw the Beatles……..So close to it all but they'd packed in playing live before I got going, concert wise.

 

My first ever concert was The Duke Ellington band with Georgie Fame at the Albert Hall. Soon after that I saw 'Jimi Hendrix' and then 'Ten years After'….again at the Albert Hall.

The 'Ten Years After' concert got rock banned at the Albert Hall for a while…..We were all dancing on the seats.

The ban didn't last long because my first Led Zep' concert was ………yes you've guessed …..at the Albert Hall for 'The Rock Proms' with Zep' headlining. By the time of this concert I knew every LZ song inside and out………I'd seen Hendrix and Alvin Lee and was prepared for loud…….But the Power of Bonham's drums,…..JPJ's bass…..Page's clattering and soaring solos and Plant's screaming unleashed a whole new level of sonic attack on my vibrating ear-drums. I became used to loud…. and familiar with the best bands around. Most often in The Marquee….

I saw the Stones, Blind Faith, King Crimson, Free, Taste, Fleetwood Mac, Chicken Shack, Traffic, Jethro Tull, Delaney and Bonnie, and many others…….

Only The Who escaped…..sadly never heard them live to this day.

 

……….. Of all those above only Peter Green's Fleetwood Mac were more musically moving but no one came close to the impact of seeing Led Zep live that first time…… My ears are still ringing.. 

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Since we're into 'under-rated/over-rated,' I'd say guitarist Alvin Lee and Ten Years After are now under-rated, and Traffic, wow, they were some band...

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I like Led Zep alright. I agree that the "10-minute bore-fests" are... boring. (No kidding!) To be honest, jam bands always bore me (they weren't one, but I'm just throwing that out there). I can barely stand an album full of four+ minute songs unless they're all really great. That's one of the things I like about the Beatles: they have a lot of short songs, which means more songs, which means the songs stay "fresh" longer.

My favorite albums by Led Zeppelin are Houses of the Holy, Physical Graffiti, and IV. (Though I'll admit that I don't care for The Rain Song from the former, it's way too slow to be 7+ minutes long.) I can see why Plant's vocals grate on some people, but I don't mind falsetto in general (which is good, otherwise I'd hate Rush and Muse too.)

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Anyone else been following this trial?

http://www.ew.com/article/2016.....-explainer

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Zig said
Anyone else been following this trial?

http://www.ew.com/article/2016.....lainer  

Honestly, I can't feel too sorry for Led Zeppelin for this. They should just throw some royalties at Spirit and move past it. It's not like this'll affect the millions of dollars Led Zeppelin have made selling records and T-shirts.

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The radio segment I heard about it said Led Zepplin is claiming the Mary Poppins defense. They had heard that sound in chimney sweeps's song in the Disney move.

16 June 2016
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Zig said
Anyone else been following this trial?

http://www.ew.com/article/2016.....lainer  

Taurus  sounds like a few things to me, just like Stairway...  might sound a slight bit like Taurus.  It *is* a common chord progression. But the acoustic guitar intro to Stairway  and the piece of guitar referenced in that article from Taurus  definitely to my ear sound extremely similar. Similar enough for Spirit to come out of this the "winner"? Perhaps. I'm watching this.  I love me some Zeppelin, but this isn't the first time they've come up against claims like this.

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The Hippie Chick said

Taurus  sounds like a few things to me, just like Stairway...  might sound a slight bit like Taurus.  It *is* a common chord progression. But the acoustic guitar intro to Stairway  and the piece of guitar referenced in that article from Taurus  definitely to my ear sound extremely similar. Similar enough for Spirit to come out of this the "winner"? Perhaps. I'm watching this.  I love me some Zeppelin, but this isn't the first time they've come up against claims like this.  

It doesn't help that Led Zeppelin used to open for Spirit. 

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What really appals me about the case is how the estate of RC are disrespecting him for money. Why do I suggest they are disrespecting him for the money? Because Randy had decades to bring the case should he have believed it should be brought, the similarities have not just been noticed, and it often cropped up as a subject in interviews with him.

In my opinion, if it can be shown that the author of a work chose not to pursue a plagiarism case during their lifetime while aware of the grounds for such a case - as Randy obviously was about Taurus/Stairway, then their estate should not be able to overturn his decision on whether to sue or not.

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Zig said
Anyone else been following this trial?

http://www.ew.com/article/2016.....lainer  

I have a little. I gotta admit that they both sound pretty similar, and as THC has already mentioned, Zep has had some troubles with plagiarism in the past (The Lemon Song and Bring it On Home come to mind), so I can't exactly doubt that this is just another such case.

Back to my original thought: I DIDN'T KNOW WE HAD A LED ZEPPELIN THREAD! beatlemaniacs_02_gif I should of been told of this sooner. a-hard-days-night-john-6

Looking through here has given me quite a bit of mixed emotions, to put it that way. What I mean is that although it's nice to see some love for the band here, there also seems to be quite a few of you folk who dislike them for various reasons (I didn't know that anyone could call Rob a terrible singer!). ahdn_paul_01

Anywho, seeing this thread has made me realise that I should probably get the Led out right about now. a-hard-days-night-george-10

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Necko said

It doesn't help that Led Zeppelin used to open for Spirit.   

And Zep covered "Fresh Garbage" live a few times on their first US tour, and of course Robert Plant loved all those West Coast hippie bands, so they had to be familiar with the track. I still don't think the two tracks sound much alike, myself - maybe Page was inspired by that descending-minor guitar part to write his own descending bit, but even there it's only like three bars worth that resemble each other, before both go their own separate ways. I don't know how these things are compensated, but if Page/Plant offered even 5% of the song's royalties (without conceding co-writing credit), I'd feel that was exceptionally generous on their part.

It's certainly not on the "Dazed And Confused" level as far as Zep-plagiarism goes. And I agree with Ron that the whole thing feels a bit opportunistic. 

This guy does an interesting analysis...and he even brings up "While My Guitar Gently Weeps" into the mix...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCEg9gMJakU

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Kind of on theme, how would we feel about Olivia suing Paul Weller over the similarities between The Jam's Start and George's Taxman? Myself, I would lose a lot of respect for her, and start worrying about her guardianship of George's legacy, as it would be going against George's obvious wishes.

I feel the same about RC's Estate in this situation. Whatever the outcome of the case, the Estate will never be able to say that it's a case Randy wanted.

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After one day of deliberation, the jury has decided that Led Zeppelin did not plagiarize Spirit's "Taurus".

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