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Led Zeppelin
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Clerefor Sede said
Well, I think we can declare thread Zeppaton II over by now. I had a wonderful time. See ya all in October when Led Zeppelin III turns 50a-hard-days-night-john-3  

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a-hard-days-night-ringo-8 All I have to say here is that some people on this forum have to be professional writers. a-hard-days-night-ringo-15I would pay to read some of these music reviews. They really enhance my listening experience, even for songs I've heard 100 times. apple01.    

Haha, doncha know we're better than reviewers because we actually love the Led? a-hard-days-night-john-6

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Clerefor Sede said
Well, I think we can declare thread Zeppaton II over by now. I had a wonderful time. See ya all in October when Led Zeppelin III turns 50

Aw, I was only just getting starteda-hard-days-night-john-6My ranking of all their songs worst-best is coming any day now john-lennon-salute_gif(I wish, that would be a lot more fun that my current essay)

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Meh, it's not the best Yardbirds album. Only a few decent songs, few originals, a blues rewrite or two. Nice JPJones string arrangement on the title cut, and its interesting to hear "Think About It", the 1968 b-side featuring Jimmy playing what is basically a note-by-note runthrough of his "Dazed & Confused" solo.

Basically, I think the Jeff Beck era of the 'birds produced the most lasting work.

  

I was hoping you would abstain because I was certain you have heard it. I pretty much agree with your assessment, though.

I was hoping the youngsters would jump right on it, draw the important line in between this and Zep's first album, and yes,  say this isn't that great. Have you heard the Anderson Theatre album? That's great stuff!

As for your assertation the the Beck years were the best for the Yardbirds, again I agree. What's weird is that they released one album per guitar player. I'm not including the American Frankensteins BTW. 

I actually prefer Five Live Yardbirds to Roger the Engineer. Clapton is on fire. The Yardbirds (aka Roger the Engineer) is one of those great Brit 1966 rock albums, like Revolver , Aftermath, and Face to Face though

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I'm extremely glad that they didn't keep 'The New Yardbirds' as their name. Led Zeppelin has to be one of the coolest band names ever, whereas 'Yardbirds' sounds exactly like a 1964 British Invasion band, which let's face it isn't nearly as cool.

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Yep, I've got the scarce Anderson Theater live one (a promo copy with white label and b&w cover) , and also a 2-rec compilation that's where I first heard most of those "Little Games" tracks. Spectacular cover art on both, with the big names prominently displayed: Epic Records couldn't wait to cash in on Jimmy Page's (et al) name recognition. Interestingly, on the label of "Live", there's no writer credited at all for "I'm Confused"; every other song lists the writer(s)...

Notable thing about "Little Games" I forgot to mention: The original recording of "White Summer", with tablas and a nice soprano sax doubling the melody.

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I never heard the story behind the Houses of the Holy album cover before. 

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Yep, I've got the scarce Anderson Theater live one (a promo copy with white label and b&w cover) , and also a 2-rec compilation that's where I first heard most of those "Little Games" tracks. Spectacular cover art on both, with the big names prominently displayed: Epic Records couldn't wait to cash in on Jimmy Page's (et al) name recognition. Interestingly, on the label of "Live", there's no writer credited at all for "I'm Confused"; every other song lists the writer(s)...

Notable thing about "Little Games" I forgot to mention: The original recording of "White Summer", with tablas and a nice soprano sax doubling the melody.

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I've got a copy of the Anderson Theatre gig from a Grey market CD from Germany. Man, it is fierce. Page also put it on Yardbirds '68 2 disc set he released about a year ago. Apparently he remixed it.  

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I never heard the story behind the Houses of the Holy album cover before. 

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I had heard it, but not in quite that much detail, so thanks for the read @sigh butterfly! john-lennon-salute_gif

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I'm extremely glad that they didn't keep 'The New Yardbirds' as their name. Led Zeppelin has to be one of the coolest band names ever, whereas 'Yardbirds' sounds exactly like a 1964 British Invasion band, which let's face it isn't nearly as cool.

  

Thank Keith Moon for that. I have to agree. When I was a kid the Jimmy Page era Yardbirds was impossible to find so drawing a line from say 1966 to 1969 was extremely hard. The Anderson theatre album was deleted just as soon as it came out in 1971 by the Zeppelin camp. It was only when I got in my thirties that some of the Page era. If anyone is interested, the Anderson theatre album is part of the Yardbirds "68 compilation that Jimmy just put out. Compare it to the live disc that comes with the Zeppelin 1 package. They're both dynamite. 

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Seen there was some kind of glitch with a doubled post so I'll share something else.

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OMG @Dingle Lad did you steal your own post? a-hard-days-night-paul-4

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Dingle Lad said

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I'm extremely glad that they didn't keep 'The New Yardbirds' as their name. Led Zeppelin has to be one of the coolest band names ever, whereas 'Yardbirds' sounds exactly like a 1964 British Invasion band, which let's face it isn't nearly as cool.

  

Thank Keith Moon for that. I have to agree. When I was a kid the Jimmy Page era Yardbirds was impossible to find so drawing a line from say 1966 to 1969 was extremely hard. 

  

The 60s Canadian pressing of "Roger the Engineer" (of which I found a scratchy copy at a 1986 garage sale) was retitled after the "Over Under Sideways Down" single, and displayed Page on the cover, though he doesn't play on the album.

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And speaking of "Over Under...", I love how Jimmy sneaks that song's riff into this version of "How Many More Times" (at 5:03)

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OMG @Dingle Lad did you steal your own post? a-hard-days-night-paul-4

Post stealing: https://www.beatlesbible.com/f.....8/#p346462

  

I think it's my internet. My neighborhood has a lot of school age children. 

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I'm extremely glad that they didn't keep 'The New Yardbirds' as their name. Led Zeppelin has to be one of the coolest band names ever, whereas 'Yardbirds' sounds exactly like a 1964 British Invasion band, which let's face it isn't nearly as cool.

  

Thank Keith Moon for that. I have to agree. When I was a kid the Jimmy Page era Yardbirds was impossible to find so drawing a line from say 1966 to 1969 was extremely hard. 

  

The 60s Canadian pressing of "Roger the Engineer" (of which I found a scratchy copy at a 1986 garage sale) was retitled after the "Over Under Sideways Down" single, and displayed Page on the cover, though he doesn't play on the album.

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And speaking of "Over Under...", I love how Jimmy sneaks that song's riff into this version of "How Many More Times" (at 5:03)

  

not to mention how the Communication Breakdown riff starts Train Kept a Rollin' on the Anderson Theatre album

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One last Yardbirds post: This CD is a mishmash of Little Games and 1968 outakes, and audio from French and German TV appearances, It's tasty stuff but the main reason I'm sharing it is because the cover is absolutely boss. 

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Led Zeppelin's Closing Tracks Ranked

1) The Ocean. SO GOOD! Nuff said. Also their only non-perverted-blues-song closer

2) When the Levee Breaks - DUH. Their best perverted-blues-song closer. Absolutely massive drums and does the trippy thing without being wtf like Hats Off For Roy Harper

3) How Many More Times - self indulgent af and I love it

4) Bring It On Home - I used to skip this till I realized there was actual proper riffing and howling in the middle. It's wacky and kinda dumb but I like the sense of humor. Also super badass riff

5) I'm Gonna Crawl - pretty good. It settles the album down nicely and Robert provides some lovely slug screams at the end.

6) Tea For One - This would be higher if it wasn't low-key SIBLY. As a closer it works fine.

7) Hats Off To Roy Harper - After the masterpea that is LZIII, WHAT THE FECK WAS THAT? ngl it does make me laugh tho

8) Wearing And Tearing - relative to the album, it's one of the better songs on Coda but still not the most satisfying end (RIP Bonzo)

9) Sick Again - see LZIII, but this time it's not as funny. C'mon. It's a forgettable song by any Zepp album standards, but on PG it's a travesty.

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a-hard-days-night-ringo-8 This is a first and I've read at least 1000 rankings lists in my life. Could you do Pink Floyd too? 

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It's 3a.m. here and I can't sleep and this is just what I needed to pass the timea-hard-days-night-george-10

Led Zeppelin's Closing Tracks Ranked

1) The Ocean. SO GOOD! Nuff said. Also their only non-perverted-blues-song closer

Absolutely kicks ass and I 100% agree it would on my 1st spot. The drumming is completely bananas. And those switch-ups are just oooooh like my soul is set freeahdn_george_05Nice 10/10

2) When the Levee Breaks - DUH. Their best perverted-blues-song closer. Absolutely massive drums and does the trippy thing without being wtf like Hats Off For Roy Harper

Also agree, it would be my second spot. Now I'm realizing that maybe Zeppelin weren't the greatest at closers outside of these two songs, because most ranked pretty average on my book. But yeah, When the Levee Breaks is ma-aa-ad good. Absolutely powerful and it drives me through this heavy sense of destruction. Not my favourite track on IV, but incredibly fitting. 8/10

3) How Many More Times - self indulgent af and I love it

I like how crazy and diverse it is, and the self-indulgence you talk about is probably the best thing on it, but the riffs just aren't my thing. Still, kind of great. It would be slightly lower on my list. 7/10

4) Bring It On Home - I used to skip this till I realized there was actual proper riffing and howling in the middle. It's wacky and kinda dumb but I like the sense of humor. Also super badass riff

It is my least favourite track on the album, and I still really like it. It's another 7/10, but it ended up on my 3rd place, shockingly. I love the intro and how the second section emerges from nowhere.

5) I'm Gonna Crawl - pretty good. It settles the album down nicely and Robert provides some lovely slug screams at the end.

It's forgettable but in a respectable way. It's kind of cliché in its chord progression but it creates a really nice atmosphere. I agree with the position. 7/10

6) Tea For One - This would be higher if it wasn't low-key SIBLY. As a closer it works fine.

I don't like it as a closer, and it's too patience-testing for me. 4/10

7) Hats Off To Roy Harper - After the masterpea that is LZIII, WHAT THE FECK WAS THAT? ngl it does make me laugh tho

Yucky. 3/10

8) Wearing And Tearing - relative to the album, it's one of the better songs on Coda but still not the most satisfying end (RIP Bonzo)

I don't generally count Coda because I've never heard it in order, nor will I ever. And I hate this song, you will find it at the bottom of my list. 2/10

9) Sick Again - see LZIII, but this time it's not as funny. C'mon. It's a forgettable song by any Zepp album standards, but on PG it's a travesty.

I think that the entire side D off PG is a big letdown. But inside of its side, it's not the worst, that definitely goes to something like Boogie with Stu or Country Black Woman . Not great, definitely, and it wouldn't go near the top of my list, but not the bottom either. 5/10

1) The Ocean

2) When the Levee Breaks

3) Bring It on Home

4) How Many More Times

5) I'm Gonna Crawl

6) Sick Again

7) Tea for One

8) Hatts Off to Roy Harper

9) Wearing and Tearing

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a-hard-days-night-ringo-8 This is a first and I've read at least 1000 rankings lists in my life. Could you do Pink Floyd too? 

Wish granted.

15) Ummagumma: The Grand Vizier's Garden Party (Part 1: Entrance; Part 2: Entertainment; Part 3: Exit) - Can't stress how boring this is. It sounds junky and miserable, if artful at all. 1/10

14) Obscured by Clouds: Absolutely Curtains - Could it at least have a rhythm? And what the hell are those children singing at the end? Whatever... 3/10

13) The Final Cut: Two Suns in the Sunset - It sounds too much like Mother . Trying too hard, Roger, trying too hard. 4/10

12) A Saucerful of Secrets: Judgband Blues - It makes Saucerful sound like Piper, which it doesn't at all for the first 6 tracks, so it's very anti-climactic. And it's not even ear the wittiest, funniest or best compositions by Syd. 4/10

11) The Endless River: Louder Than Words - Like a rehash of Comfortably Numb. It sounds good, but it means nothing. 5/10

10) A Momentary Lapse of Reason: Sorrow - Kind of a turn off as it blandly shows the 80s sensibilities of the album overall, and not even at their best. 5/10

9) The Division Bell: High Hopes - It's good, but it's a little corny. It just sounds as Gilmour trying to sound like Waters, not nailing it, and ending up with an average Pink Floyd song. I don't even know why it's the closer. 6/10

8) The Wall: Outside the Wall - Isn't this were w- 6/10

7) The Piper at the Gates of Dawn: Bike - I KNOW A MOUSE AND HE HASN'T GOT A HOUSE 7/10

6) More: Dramatic Theme - Good inside of its simplicity. It closes the album with psychedelia but also class. It's not fantastic or anything, but in comparison to the rest, I like it a lot. 7/10

5) Animals: Pigs on the Wing (Part 2) - Wonderfully melancholic. I've always felt that the opening and closing track on Animals are a way of setting a ground-level view. For instance, we start with Pigs on the Wing, we feel cozy, at home, and then the three middle tracks happen, we go to other dimensions and shit, and then the last track brings us back to Earth. I like the cycle it fulfills. 8/10

4) Atom Heart Mother : Alan's Psychedelic Breakfast - This is three completely different compositions thrown together for no reason. I love the instrumentals separately a lot, all of them, especially the first one, I just don't love the "thrown together" aspect of it all. Like, couldn't they either divide them by track names or connect them with bridges or something? It's weird, but it's an excellent listen. 8/10

3) Wish You Were Here: Shine On You Crazy Diamond (Part VI—IX) - Part VIII is my favourite Pink Floyd section of all time. Why they decided to end with Part IX instead, which is boring af, I have no idea. 8/10

2) The Dark Side of the Moon: Eclipse - YESSSS. THE POWERRRR. UNLIMITED POWERRRRRR. 9/10

1) Meddle: Echoes - Come on. 10/10

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