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I did it. I have finally listened to a Zeppelin album and I am impressed. I've been putting it off for a while now, despite constant pressure to listen by my friends (as well as teachers), because I'm not a big hard rock fan ((I mean I had my emo phase in middle school where I only listened to My Chemical Romance but that's beside the point.)) and I was a little intimidated by the sheer length of some of Led Zep's songs but oh my god was I not disappointed. 

I listened to their first album: Led Zeppelin. "You Shook Me" and "Babe I'm Gonna Leave You" and "Your Time is Gonna Come" are the tracks that I really loved. And none of this is prob news to you fans out there, but I never knew how amazing  Plant's vocals are. The way he and the lead guitar just seem to me singing and moaning at each other really got me in the knees. It's just....so good. How could I have put this off? 

Welp, I'm gonna go download all their other albums. Consider me a newborn Led Zep fan. 

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Awesome news! If i were you, I'd just continue chronologically, since you've started with the first one.

For me, II is kind of the inverse of I: the ideas behind the songs aren't quite as interesting to me, but they're presented in a much more coherent way. Both amazing albums, that lead the way to the mastery of IV, Houses of the Holy and Physical Graffiti

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WELCOME to Ledhead-dom! Perfect time to do it, too, this week (ish) contains the birthdays of both John Paul Jones (3 Jan) and Jimmy Page (9 Jan). And yes, I agree with you about Robert Plant: the first time I heard Babe I'm Gonna Leave You, my mind was blown open and expanded radically by Robert's vocals. Previously, I'd mostly only listened to more conventional melodic singing and I never knew a human voice could be used like that. He truly had some special pipes back in those days -- a magical combination of range, power, a uniquely shimmery timbre, and just plain swagger. (His voice had changed over the years, as one does with years of untrained abuse, cigarettes, and age, and he can't and won't sing like that any more -- ah well, All Things Must Pass , and that untrained abuse sure did sound fecking amazing a-hard-days-night-john-6) I just love it when he and Jimmy did the call-and-response thing (check out live versions of Dazed and Confused).

Oh, I can't wait for you to hear the rest of their albums! I think I have a harder time picking a favorite Zepp album than I do for any other band. They're all just so solid. I'm so excited for you @lovelyritametermaid beatlemaniacs_02_gif

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I did it. I have finally listened to a Zeppelin album and I am impressed. I've been putting it off for a while now, despite constant pressure to listen by my friends (as well as teachers), because I'm not a big hard rock fan ((I mean I had my emo phase in middle school where I only listened to My Chemical Romance but that's beside the point.)) and I was a little intimidated by the sheer length of some of Led Zep's songs but oh my god was I not disappointed. 

I listened to their first album: Led Zeppelin. "You Shook Me" and "Babe I'm Gonna Leave You" and "Your Time is Gonna Come" are the tracks that I really loved. And none of this is prob news to you fans out there, but I never knew how amazing  Plant's vocals are. The way he and the lead guitar just seem to me singing and moaning at each other really got me in the knees. It's just....so good. How could I have put this off? 

Welp, I'm gonna go download all their other albums. Consider me a newborn Led Zep fan. 

  

Great. My favorite albums are Physical Graffiti and Presence.

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I hadn't listened to Physical Graffiti for a long time until today and good lord is The Wanton Song just Red Hot Chili Peppers entire template without the rap lyrics. stuart-sutcliffePage's willingness to continually tinker with the masters however, leads to weirdness like the 2012 remaster of Black Country Woman being speed-modified when the interesting thing is that there's no bass on it! Sometimes these experiments work though, but it's exhausting going through the sheer number of remasters of everything by now.

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I hadn't listened to Physical Graffiti for a long time until today and good lord is The Wanton Song just Red Hot Chili Peppers entire template without the rap lyrics. stuart-sutcliffePage's willingness to continually tinker with the masters however, leads to weirdness like the 2012 remaster of Black Country Woman being speed-modified when the interesting thing is that there's no bass on it! Sometimes these experiments work though, but it's exhausting going through the sheer number of remasters of everything by now.

  

Dude, Apple Music doesn't give me a choice. All they have is the 2012 remaster and the Deluxe Edition of Physical Graffiti , so I don't even know how the original mastering compares. 

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Sorry to hear that, @lovelyritametermaid, it's definitely something you need to be aware of with Led Zep recordings. I think the Complete Studio Recordings is a reasonable baseline compromise if you can get that (it's not too expensive from places like discogs.com although the postage can be a bit nasty for international). But if you want a cheap compilation, get Mothership which are all from CSR (2007 remasters).

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Huh, I didn't know about the speed adjustment, weird. Was Plant's voice originally pitched up slightly on that track? (I believe that was done on "Four Sticks" and a couple of others from around 1971-2)

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No, the pitch is preserved, it's just sped up enough that it's shorter by 10 seconds, and Plant sounds a little too quick in some sections where he's singing in a syncopated rhythm. It's almost subtle enough that you don't notice but it's there, I thought I was going crazy at first.

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I had the chance to see Led Zeppelin in Sept. 1971 at the theater on the Cal Berkeley campus (home of the free speech movement). The Bay Area was a solemn place to live in those days. (In fact the last time I had stepped foot on the Cal campus I experienced my first tear gas). The truth was bands that diid’t have some sort of counter culture/political cred were not taken seriously. This included bands like Credence Clearwater Revival, Grand Funk Railroad, and even McCartney. Due to Jimmy Page’s status as a legitimate blues innovator and guitar legend, Led Zeppelin kind of walked that fine line. The Beatle fans I knew did not like or trust them. I’m sure when Plant remarks on stage in The Song Remains the Same “Does anyone remember laughter” this is what he was referring to. Also Led Zeppelin was rumored to be into what I’ll call dark magic, which I knew from going to a Black Sabbath concert earlier in the year brought out some spooky goblins. So between the angry protesters, left wing activists, pagan witches and satanic warlocks, I wasn’t sure what to expect that night. As it turned out the crowd was a fairly normal bay area mix of hippies and students.

This was the first concert I ever attended in a theatre that had cushioned seats, marble staircases leading to a dress circle and balcony, ushers, and even a proscenium arch with a sparkly purple curtain. It was also the most expensive concert I had been to up to that time, $6.50 (twice as much as a normal club venue). So, the house lights blinked twice and a few minutes later the lights went down, the curtain parted and there was Led Zeppelin. Page was to the right, a little bit behind Plant who was to his left but not quite center stage. Bonham was in the back stage center completely surrounded by his kit with a big brass gong behind him. Jones was on the left kind of surrounded with equipment including an organ. The main thing about the stage that you couldn’t miss were the large number of Marshall amps stacked two high all the way from one end of the stage to the other. It was the most amps I’d ever seen and when they started Immigrant Song you could feel the music against your chest as it ripped into your ears. It was the loudest music I’d ever heard. Fortunately Jones who seemed to be handling the sound from the stage adjusted something and by “How soft your fields so green” all was good.

This was the setlist for the night (with a little help on the song order from the Berkeley Barb News reporter who took notes):

Immigrant Song
Heartbreaker
Since I've Been Loving You
Black Dog
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Celebration Day
That's the Way
Going to California
What Is and What Should Never Be
Moby Dick
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This concert was almost 50 years ago, so what I am left with are these impressions.

*Jones and Bonham were running the show, particularly Jones. The band would look to him for queues and the tight rhythm section left little room for improvisation. Since there was no rhythm guitar, Jones was sometimes called on to play organ, bass and recorder all at the same time. He looked a bit like a mad scientist, twisting knobs and concocting sounds in his darkened corner of the stage.

*Despite the rather tight format, Page was still changing things up. What I remember is the first part of the older songs would be played note for note and the second part he would riff but within the confines of the song structure. It’s hard to describe, but it wasn’t like Jimi or Neil taking off and the band following along. Page wasn’t changing the song exactly, just the way he played within it.

*Plant was much looser than I expected him to be. He didn’t interact with the band much but he had a friendly demeanor and danced about to the music.

*Bonham was everything you’ve ever read about and did a 20 minute drum solo (Moby Dick) that absolutely blew everyone’s minds. No one sat down after that. Without question he was the Hammer of the Gods.

*This was one of the most unusual concerts and tour ever for a major band. Although nearly a quarter of the songs were from Led Zeppelin 4 and Stairway was being introduced for the first time, the album release had been delayed until November so no one had heard any of it. I remember thinking a few times that they were playing cover song. For Stairway Page strapped on the double neck Gibson, but gave the stage to Plant for the first half. They played really slow and Plant kind of swung back and forth holding the mic stand and telling his intriguing story (ooh it makes me wonder). There was no anticipation of what was to come, so Plant held the room like casting a spell. When Page’s lead came it was so unexpected (the light man hit the guitar body with a focused spot and the reflections would occasionally fill your eyes) and the band was tight and really brought it home. They knew what they had and after the last lyric there were smiles all around.

*For That’s the Way and Going to California the band pulled out their acoustic guitars. Stools were brought out and they sat in a semi-circle and played like a folk group. It felt very generous of them to play so intimately at a rock concert and in light of Plant’s future musical interests, was a sign of things to come.

*When the band came back on stage after the drum solo they hit Whole Lotta Love at full throttle. (Plant remained bare chested for the rest of the night) It was the most electric moment of the night. They added a section that included some snippets of 50s songs (like Hello Mary Lou, some Elvis). Their demeanor and energy had changed and I think they may have enjoyed some extracurriculars while back stage.

*All this being said the absolute highlight was Since I’ve Been Loving You, a song I hadn’t paid that much attention to (I loved the Hobbits stuff0. This was the only song that Page and Plant stood together and interacted with each other’s performance. The tension BUILT AND BUILT and it was one of those concert moments where you think to yourself “this is the hottest thing I’ve ever heard”.

I moved to Hawaii a few weeks later and it wasn’t until probably January that I heard Black Dog on the radio (Hey, hey mama). Wow, that wasn’t a cover song after all-TURN IT UP!!!

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@sigh butterfly I'm going to have to bookmark your post and savor it periodically. Words can't express how amazing it is to read your firsthand experience with both the concert itself and all the cultural context around it. As dearly as I wish I could have seen Led Zeppelin myself, it is magical to read your impressions and see them in my mind. It's also nice to see how they match my own observations from watching live footage of the band. I can only imagine how Stairway to Heaven's debut must have hit audiences in a world where Stairway was not yet a thing. And what an absolutely legendary setlist beatlemaniacs_02_gif Also, I've got to admit I laughed out loud when you mentioned "extracurriculars"! ahdn_ringo_09

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I only managed to thank that three times a-hard-days-night-john-7

@sigh butterfly I'm going to have to bookmark your post and savor it periodically. Words can't express how amazing it is to read your firsthand experience with both the concert itself and all the cultural context around it. As dearly as I wish I could have seen Led Zeppelin myself, it is magical to read your impressions and see them in my mind. It's also nice to see how they match my own observations from watching live footage of the band. I can only imagine how Stairway to Heaven's debut must have hit audiences in a world where Stairway was not yet a thing. And what an absolutely legendary setlist beatlemaniacs_02_gif Also, I've got to admit I laughed out loud when you mentioned "extracurriculars"! ahdn_ringo_09

  

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And as for imagining a world before "Stairway", you don't have to - you can hear its April 1971 debut performance on the BBC Sessions. And judge for yourself the Parisian crowd's reaction to a song that won't be heard on record for another half-year...

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And as for imagining a world before "Stairway", you don't have to - you can hear its April 1971 debut performance on the BBC Sessions. And judge for yourself the Parisian crowd's reaction to a song that won't be heard on record for another half-year...  

I still have to imagine it because I live in a world where there is Stairway, and my world most certainly contains Stairway and lots of memes and jokes about it, and everything that came after it (so I'm packin' my bags for the Misty Mountains - where the spirits go now!)

I know which performance you're talking about, however, and I've loved it for ages but I never knew it was the song's debut. Knowing that makes it about 70 times more magical -- I think it's the best version of the song in existence, actually. Way to debut with a bang, Gilded Age society girls could never! a-hard-days-night-paul-7

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Glad you enjoyed it a-hard-days-night-george-9.  It's kind of funny, I thought it was a unique experience to hear those songs for the first time live. My brother on the other hand ended up hating it. You know the old adage about existence; if a tree falls in the forest and no one is around to hear it, does it make a noise? His feelings are "If I heard Stairway live for the first time and I didn't know it, does it count as actually hearing it"? mccartney-shrug_01_gif

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Well, I'd be happy to have taken your brother's place a-hard-days-night-john-7 I always think it must be an in incredible privilege to be the first to hear something, that the band is allowing you to hear something before they let it out for everyone to hear, and even if you don't know what it is yet you still had the experience and you surely got something out of it. With all due respect, I don't think your brother has the right idea at all.

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Well, I'd be happy to have taken your brother's place a-hard-days-night-john-7 I always think it must be an in incredible privilege to be the first to hear something, that the band is allowing you to hear something before they let it out for everyone to hear, and even if you don't know what it is yet you still had the experience and you surely got something out of it. With all due respect, I don't think your brother has the right idea at all.

  

I agree and he probably would to if you were discussing it with him. I think he only really feels that way about the Stairway guitar solo. He is a lifelong guitar player and if he knew what to expect, he would have been hyper focused on Page. My mom's birthday is coming up, so I'll ask him then if he still feels conflicted.

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As a guitar player I would hope I would've been hyper focused on Page in any case mccartney-shrug_01_gif

@sigh butterfly this concert was the one where they debuted Stairway for the first time, the setlist is nearly the same as the show you attended:

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Thanks @Beatlebug - the remasters of this show sound awesome (maybe Page produced)! Traditional Led Zeppelin mythology has them off the road and recording/practicing between mid-Sept 1970 and early May 1971. In this timeline, Stairway would have premiered on 3/5/71 at Ulster Hall, Belfast, N. Ireland. If true, this may be the only time I'll ever feel what it's like to be Ron Nasty. Most historic dates are below my threshold of consciousness. 

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A bit or research reveals that the 4/1/71 show featured the premier of Stairway on the BBC. I think that is what you and VB were going for. Even so, I will enjoy being Ron Nasty until the end of the day.

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