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Evangeline said

I want. Where can I order my own Silly Girl? a-hard-days-night-george-10  

I am not a Solid Guitar... a-hard-days-night-paul-11

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Just a solid guitar player. 

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22 November 2017
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...although I do not play an SG, but I do play a guitar that is solid. And if you were being complimentary, you could say that my guitar playing is solid -- I wouldn't necessarily agree with you, but I'd be flattered. ahdn_george_06

*makes mental note to try 'OTHAFA' on an SG next time I'm at the shop*

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Did JP use an SG anytime in the studio, I wonder...Dark Overlord may know.  

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JPJ has never used an SG or an Epi bass to my knowledge, he used either Fenders or Alembics in Zep and custom Mansons in Them Crooked Vultures. He has the only bass lap steel I've ever heard of though.

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I meant Page. Just find it curious that his double neck Gibson was designed with SG style cutaways if he'd never used an SG professionally. (But I guess it's not really very important at all.)

I like SGs! Would enjoy hearing OTHAFA played on one... 

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I meant Page. Just find it curious that his double neck Gibson was designed with SG style cutaways if he'd never used an SG professionally. (But I guess it's not really very important at all.)

I like SGs! Would enjoy hearing OTHAFA played on one...   

Oh, my mistake 😀 Yeah JP got that for playing Stairway To Heaven on stage, a 1970s Gibson EDS-1275 Doubleneck. But as far as it's known, he preferred Les Pauls, even Fender Strats and Teles, SG's are never mentioned as gear. But the SG doubleneck was basically the only "off the shelf" doubleneck you could get unless you got Shergold to build you one like Mike Rutherford's (and it was detachable, so you could use different guitars!).

edit: Gibson claim he owns one, but no one's ever seen it and it's a tossup whether he ever recorded with one. I take that with a can of salt.

edit edit: And to make sure, I went to his website and looked at the photos of his guitar collection, no SG except the doubleneck. And I can't find one mentioned in any "guitar collection" site or recording notes.

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Spent most of the afternoon (off and on) drawing this, from memory:

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I did Jimmy first, was so pleased with him I almost stopped there, drew Robert anyway, and he turned out twice as good as Jimmy... I had to fiddle with Jimmy's eyes forever before I got them to not look weird... but anyway. Page/Plant is my ship ahdn_george_06

...The things I spend my time on, when I could have been playing guitar or talking to other humans or eating food (though I more than made up for the last item later) a-hard-days-night-paul-7

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Currently sitting in the dark listening to Led Zeppelin III on headphones. Virgin vinyl is so damn sweet beatlemaniacs_02_gif but I don't mean to let it stay that way -- I doubt I'm going to be listening to much else for a week. The spinny wheel is going to get well worn out too. a-hard-days-night-john-6

'Since I've Been Loving You' is really growing on me... I didn't get it the first times I heard it, but I appreciate it now. Especially Bonzo's squeaky kick drum pedal. a-hard-days-night-george-9

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*WARNING: SUPERMASSIVE PWT RANT AHEAD*
*TURN BACK WHILST YET YA CAN*

I had to replay the beginning of 'Immigrant Song' over a few times. The tape hiss and someone (Jimmy Page?) counting up and then that massive riff (and I include the drums here, they are as much the riff as the guitars are) explodes over your head. I don't need to rave about Plant's majestic Viking screams, or the way his delivery alternates between bard-like and raging, but I just did anyway. The wind-down is as massive as the intro -- truly an absolutely solid bullet of pure energy packed into not quite two-and-a-half minutes.

I love studio chatter. That and the rattling of the bottom string against the frets (because it's tuned down to low C, so it's pretty loose) in 'Friends' are little details that give me a powerful kind of satisfaction. As for the lines 'I'm telling you now, the greatest thing you ever can do now/ Is trade a smile with someone who's blue now', well, I take them to heart. I also love the crescendo of strings -- rising crescendos of strings and things seem to be a pattern on this album -- fading into a swirling propeller-sound which swirls seamlessly into the most hilariously clunky country-western imitation I've ever heard. 'Celebration Day' is as fun in all respects as its title dictates it should be, but the thing that really caught my attention this time around was the bass. Wow. I mean, I already knew John Paul Jones is the coolest of dudes, but I like to be reminded.

As I said above, I wasn't previously in the right frame of mind to appreciate 'Since I've Been Loving You', but now I'm loving it. Since I've been loving it a-hard-days-night-george-10 I've appreciated the slow tempo most -- the way the kick drum drags heavily and almost ominously through Jimmy's guitar lines which are by turns ponderous and as sexually frustrated as Plant's vocal. Then there's the organ part, which just compliments everything like butter on bread.

My only quibble is that there isn't enough silence after that massive track to absorb what you've just witnessed before being tossed headlong into the wildly contrasting mood that is 'Out On The Tiles' -- but that's easily remedied enough, and not to take away from the experience of the latter, which is pure joy. It's like a release after the drag, drag, drag, DRAAAAAAAAAAAAG that is the preceeding track (I mean that complimentarily of course), like he's shaken off chafing bonds and is desperately glad to be Rambling On once more, doing what he wilt. And toward the end, during the vocal improvisational stylings, I noticed one or two little things that are reminiscent of 'When The Levee Breaks' (the 'Goin' down' part at the end) and 'Four Sticks' (also toward the end).

Side two (And great joy was beheld in the household of the Silly Girl, when she had to flip the record over, for she delights in the physical manifestation of what is a very natural division in her mind). I love the way 'Gallows Pole' starts with one very metallic-sounding guitar and a voice. And then the mandolins come in and it's like the ground flowering out after a dry spell has been broken. Of course the stringsy crescendo yet again, but this time the tempo increases (accelerando I suppose), which gives me an incredible rush. At the end, there's a rather gleeful maliciousness and a sort of delight in the macabre ending in Robert's voice -- gallows (pole) humour I suppose? ahdn_george_06

'Tangerine' is the most gorgeously sad and pastoral thing I've heard, with a deceptively happy-sounding chorus. I feel like Robert's voice here, dripping with misery as it is, is a little much for the song and doesn't express the melancholy anywhere as well or sincerely as Jimmy's sobbing slide guitar solo. So short, so simple, but oh so effective. The acoustic guitar is on an otherworldly plane of pastoral perfection, as most of Jimmy's acoustic guitar playing is... but especially 'That's The Way'.

There are days yet when is nominate this my favourite from the album; it's got serious competition, but I think I can safely say it's certainly my favourite from this side. The guitars/mandolins are so lush and pure, like falling rain, and the lyrics and melody are delivered so delicately, with a sincerity of sentiment that reminds me of 'Wish You Were Here' by That Other Band, but much gentler. I also love the mic clipping on 'play' and the way he spontaneously brings on the exaggerated English on 'Don'tcha know now' in the last chorus. There's a mystery to this track, too, in that it suggests much but still mystifies, somehow, but still says all that really needs to be said -- just like WYWH.

'Bron-Y-Aur Stomp' (I'm going with the spelling that's on my record sleeve, incorrect spelling though it is) is quite possibly the purest track Led Zeppelin ever recorded. I'm not even a dog person and I could feel my nonexistent tail wagging to the joy of the song. It's that infectious, but without really trying -- it's just a happy song.

I'm not sure I have too much to say about 'Hats Off To (Roy) Harper' except that I appreciate the shout-out (COME IN HERE DEAR BOY HAVE A CIGAAAAAAR!) and Jimmy's slide guitar playing is so sloppy it makes me feel full. Even on an empty stomach. I'm not really too sure why I came up with that simile, but I am PW very T and that's the best way I can express it... a-hard-days-night-paul-10 anyway, the whole track is gloriously sloppy, which I know was perfectly, deliberately crafted. They knew what was going on.

I'll just say that Jimmy Page's production is some of the most sensible and perfect I've heard, and that's saying something, and my god that record sounds so good. Utterly sublime food for the ears!

All in all, it was an amazingly satisfying experience! Led Zeppelin is like sex, but better. (In my humble opinion. What do I know about that anyway? a-hard-days-night-paul-10)

I'll shut up now and go to bed. paul-mccartney-facepalm_gif

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a-hard-days-night-ringo-8 my vote for longest post of the year. a-hard-days-night-george-10
Well, seems like SG got a bad case of Led poisoning.

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LOL!


^My vote for funniest post of the year. You're quite right, by the way. john-lennon-salute_gif

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Oh my, thank you very much Silly Girl and Evangeline for the funniest ten minutes I've had in a while.a-hard-days-night-john-6 apple01

And also thanks for making me listen to LZ III again, I've had already forgotten how absolutely ingenious it is! So many things you said are so true and your enthusiasm is incredibly infectious! Please let this not be your last 'supermassive rant'! a-hard-days-night-george-9What you said about one's 'nonexistent tail wagging' in Bron-Y-Aur Stomp I liked best: that image is just so fitting for this jaunty track.

On regards of LZ III: I've been on a great kick of Since I've Been Loving You lately. For some reason, I've never realised how magnificent it is before. I mean, it combines so many different styles of music. The most obvious is probably the Oliver-Nelson-style slow 12/8 blues. Then there's the incredible organ part which reminds me of gospel at one point, at another point it sounds almost funky and then it's typically prog-rock again. And, oh my god, the guitar solo! What an image of pure beauty! In the end, where he plays those double stops, it's so epic and triumphant and I'm 100% sure I've heard at least two different indie bands already whose guitarist was directly influenced by this solo (by quoting it more often for example). Oh yeah, and when there comes the C7 chord instead of the typical Fm in the last blues chorus, I get so high every time, what an awesome change! There are so many other great things, like Robert's spine-tingling vocal performance which reminded me so much of Babe, I'm gonna leave you and those killer toms by John Bonham, they blew everything away in the end!

The only thing that confuses me greatly is how I saw it labelled as 'Heavy Metal' once. I mean, seriously, Heavy Metal???a-hard-days-night-paul-10

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To be fair, Led Zeppelin are pretty heavy by early 70's standards and while I'd label them as hard rock and blues rock as opposed to heavy metal I can see why they would get that label.

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^^ Only from someone who hadn't actually listened to them. Especially Zepp III, though, it's half acoustic. I mean, the acoustic songs are pretty heavy, some of them, but still. I'm pretty sure 'heavy metal' almost invariably entails some degree of distortion.

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Good point but Led Zeppelin definitely have some heavy moments such as Immigrant Song.

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Dark Overlord said
Good point but Led Zeppelin definitely have some heavy moments such as Immigrant Song.  

Yes. We can’t forget about their live material either. Absolutely thrashing the instruments.

Led Zeppelin is another one of those bands that doesn’t quite fit into a genre just because of the range in intensity. 

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Dark Overlord said
Good point but Led Zeppelin definitely have some heavy moments such as Immigrant Song.  

I didn't say they didn't...

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Keep in mind that Zep was one of the original bands that were labeled as heavy metal when that term was first applied to noisy guitar/huge drumbeat dominated music, around 1971. That the term has been refined and redefined since then (and that their music branched out to encompass several other genres) doesn't change the fact that they were one of the defining HM bands, despite the fact that they never called themselves such. (Much like ac/DC and Deep Purple and other bands who wouldn't allow themselves to be labeled as metal)

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Kashmir is a great example of them going metal. 

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