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24 August 2017
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25 August 2017
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Hahaha agreed. I think Zeppelin’s lyrics are usually the thing that lets their songs down the most, particularly on their first few albums. Most of the lyrics on IV onwards are fine though, especially on songs like Stairway, when they are actually very poetic.

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25 August 2017
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Yeah, some of Bob’s best lyrics are in a heartfelt plainspoken one like “That’s The Way” or “Going to California”…and I still like how he can throw in the occasional striking odd line (like a tadpole in a jar) to offset two or three unremarkable ones.

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Paul: Yeah well… first of all, we’re bringing out a ‘Stamp Out Detroit’ campaign.

         

25 August 2017
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…but my FAVOURITE Robert Plant lyrical examples are from his funky-weird philosophizing mode (which “That’s The Way” shows elements of, minus the funk), where he’s got some heavy syncopated 4/4 beats behind him that he can groovily wrap his tonsils and syllables around, and with more of those odd lines, like in “Night Flight” or “Celebration Day” (“Her name is Brown/Orwhiteorblack/You know her very well!”) or in the amazing “Hots On For Nowhere” (man I love that lyric! that HUGE lyric: Plant uses up so many words that he has to resort to a goofily simple and irresistable nanananananana-yeah-baby chorus and much babbling nonsense in the coda.)

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GEORGE: In fact, The Detroit Sound. JOHN: In fact, yes. GEORGE: In fact, yeah. Tamla-Motown artists are our favorites. The Miracles. JOHN: We like Marvin Gaye. GEORGE: The Impressions PAUL & GEORGE: Mary Wells. GEORGE: The Exciters. RINGO: Chuck Jackson. JOHN: To name but eighty. 

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Here’s an absolutely brutal contemporary review of Houses Of The Holy which I cannot help but laugh at, it’s so bad. HOTH is tied with the fourth album for my favourite Zepp album. http://www.rollingstone.com/mu…..y-19730607

This is also cool (as a good Pink Floyd fan, I absolutely adore Storm Thorgerson’s work, and not just his Floyd-related stuff either). http://www.rollingstone.com/mu…..73-w475113

And finally, to restore your faith in the Mighty Trio: https://pitchfork.com/reviews/…..-graffiti/

I love what he says about ‘Bron Yr Aur’:

Pastoral instrumentals had been in the mix for Zeppelin since the first album’s “Black Mountainside”, but Page never managed another one as beautiful as “Bron-Yr-Aur”, a crushingly brief two minutes of guitar bliss that every rock kid who picked up an acoustic guitar in the next 10 years dreamed of playing

It’s so true.

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30 August 2017
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Yeah, I’ve read that HOTH review before (think I usedta own the magazine!) and disagree with 75% of it, but I can understand his point if he fell in love with LED ZEPPELIN, HEAVY METAL GODS! of the first two albums and half of the third. Metal got almost absolutely no praise from the highbrow critics in those days, so the younger critics who had brains and LIKED the stuff got pretty defensive about it, especially if they suspected one of the damn founders/gods to be selling out to “taste” and respectability (which is a dumb belief in retrospect but maybe more understandable then.) 

(Also maybe notable that Gordon Fletcher was apparently one of a few black rock critics of the time who specialized in listening to mostly trashy white-identified rock like heavy metal – I’ve got(ten rid of?) ’73ish RS reviews of his (James Gang! Uriah Heep! BLUE OYSTER CULT!!) and he was a pretty good, CREEM-standard album reviewer of the time – at the expense of soul/R&B, which maybe puts his remarks about James Brown and reggae in a different context…)

Also…a Mighty Trinity that doesn’t include III?  🙁

(or Presence, for that matter?)

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30 August 2017
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Oh, that PF piece was great, thanks for that…I hadda read the rest of the guy’s Zep delux reviews after that.

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GEORGE: In fact, The Detroit Sound. JOHN: In fact, yes. GEORGE: In fact, yeah. Tamla-Motown artists are our favorites. The Miracles. JOHN: We like Marvin Gaye. GEORGE: The Impressions PAUL & GEORGE: Mary Wells. GEORGE: The Exciters. RINGO: Chuck Jackson. JOHN: To name but eighty. 

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Von Bontee said

Also…a Mighty Trinity that doesn’t include III?  🙁

(or Presence, for that matter?)  

There are three possible Mighty Trinities with the Mighty Zepp. (They’re that Mighty.) I just used the middle one.

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2 September 2017
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I just find it upsetting how easily the reviewer writes off The Rain Song. And also, Stairway To Heaven, ‘inferior tripe’??

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2 September 2017
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The reviewer is obviously very basic and only likes straight rock. If I had to choose Led Zeppelin’s best songs, I would not choose the ones the reviewer did.

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2 September 2017
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Yeah, a look at RS’s (by no means complete) online review archive also has Fletcher reviews of stuff like Kiss, Lynyrd Skynyrd, Aerosmith. Dude liked hard rock & little else, it seems! Even when he gives an Earth Wind and Fire record a good review, he has to mention how Sandy Pearlman  (BOC producer/lyricist) considers EWF a black version of a heavy metal band (which I don’t get, myself.)

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Nothing annoys me more than ‘music fans’ who call music bad simply because it’s not their favourite genre. 

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That annoys me too, except for when I do it myself.

I guess I really wanna grant Fletcher a lot of benefit of doubt for being such a pioneer in the then-young, lily-white field of rock criticism, and for obviously being a big fan of SOME aspects of Zep’s music. Plus, you know, writing about them in real-time without the benefit of 40+ years of critical hindsight.

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I have been listening to Led Zeppelin for some time now but have unintentionally never listened to Houses of the Holy until this past weekend. I was driving through the North Georgia mountains and decided to put it on and I was completely blown away. I knew most of the songs on the album except “The Rain Song”, “Dancing Day”, and “No Quarter”. I haven’t been able to stop listening to it for days. I am stunned that I just now found this gem. 

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I have been listening to Led Zeppelin for some time now but have unintentionally never listened to Houses of the Holy until this past weekend. I was driving through the North Georgia mountains and decided to put it on and I was completely blown away. I knew most of the songs on the album except “The Rain Song”, “Dancing Day”, and “No Quarter”. I haven’t been able to stop listening to it for days. I am stunned that I just now found this gem.   

Unreal that you’ve never heard that album. Personally my favorite Zeppelin album. 

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I heard The Ocean on the radio today and I thought Wow. There’s a Led Zeppelin song you don’t often hear on the radio. 

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Time for a new top ten, methinks. In no particular order:

The Rain Song
The Battle Of Evermore
Ten Years Gone
Over The Hills And Far Away
Ramble On
Stairway To Heaven (yes, it still does it for me)
Thank You
Immigrant Song
No Quarter
All My Love

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My current favorite LZ song is How Many More Times.  It rocks hard, but still has a haunting quality about it in the middle.  I like the improv elements too.

I wonder how long Led Zeppelin would have continued had Bonzo not died.  Would their music had gone in another direction?  More than half of In Through The Out Door focused more on John Paul Jones’ synthesizer than Jimmy Page’s guitar.  Would that be a new trend going forward or just a one album experimentation?

Perhaps Jones took more control because Page was trying to recover from his heroin addiction.  When Page recovered would that mean a return to the sound of the early albums?  Or would they try to keep up with 80s trends?

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Have been laughing myself silly* over these all day. https://rivka-nikola.deviantar…..8/Zeppelin

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Yeah that HOTH review says so much more about the way rock critics think than the subject of it. For me, HOTH is LZ demonstrating (as if they needed to) that there was much more to their talents than heavy rock. To not even get the joke with The Crunge says it all. And thanks for reminding me to listen to the album again, I blow hot and cold with LZ but I’m in a receptive mood today and having a blast. I love the airfills in D’Yer Mak’er especially, very Ringo. And who would have believed they could pull off psychedelic with No Quarter?

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