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I’ll kick off this topic with a response to long-time poster Zig. In a comment he made in the “Choosing Between Two Things” thread he said Steely Dan’s song “Do It Again” has the latin percussion instrument, the guiro.  I re-listened to that song just now and I can’t detect a guiro.  Zig may be mistaken about what the guiro sounds like.  Here’s a good example where it’s pretty prominent, especially near the beginning of this hit from the early 70s, “Spill the Wine” by Eric Burdon and War:

 

The guiro (shaped like a wooden fish with ridges on it) makes a scratchy sound and the usual rhythm in Latin music is a regular long scratch followed by two short scrapes.

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Haha I saw this thread title and KNEW it was a Funny Papers/Pineapple Records thread!

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vonbontee said
Haha I saw this thread title and KNEW it was a Funny Papers/Pineapple Records thread!  

I should create a thread of “Belated Responses” — so many times I only see responses days later because I’ve been away and when I come back they get buried by all the new stuff!

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I should create a thread of “Belated Responses” — so many times I only see responses days later because I’ve been away and when I come back they get buried by all the new stuff!  

You could watch topics like these so you don’t miss them.

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Silly Girl said

You could watch topics like these so you don’t miss them.  

True — but I find the framework here to be a bit confusing. One thing I realized I can do is simply boomark any given thread I want to revisit.  I keep forgetting to do that…

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The guiro is that weird sounding noise on ‘Tell Me What You See ‘, which I love.

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As for Steely Dan, I think that’s actually a *cuica* making those insect-like sounds. I get the names and playing styles of those various Latin percussibles confused, and was going to agree with Zig until looking it up and giving the song (and “Tell Me What You See “) a quick headphone – check. 

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Is latin music the same as latino music? Because if so, then I would just like to say that Despacito is a great song (both versions). Really great. I could honestly listen to it on repeat all day and not get tired of it. Also Waka Waka.

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Which Beatles songs fit into this category or closely fit in?

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Bésame Mucho is probably the best example, @Ahhh Girl. Though they never released it during their lifetime as a group, it’s one of their covers that is constantly there throughout their career, from the Decca audition and Star Club in 1962, through to the Get Back sessions in January 1969.

A song like And I Love Her , while not strictly Latin, certainly has obvious influences – especially in Ringo’s percussion on the track.

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Excellent. How about any solo Beatle songs?

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Just offhand, solo-wise, Paul’s amazing “Goodnight Tonight” is futuristic funk with Flamenco-fied guitars.

And Beatlewise, there’s also the bossa-nova section of “You Know My Name”.

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I’d also suggest Picasso’s Last Words (Drink to Me) has elements, along with Wings driving live version of Simon and Garfunkel’s Richard Cory.

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How would the Bungalow Bill guitar riff be classified? It definitely spanish style guitar. 

I wouldn’t classify Picasso’s Last Words here

The instrumental “worldly” interludes are very french, not latin. 

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Ooh, “Mr. Moonlight”!

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I’d also add Beautiful Boy (Darling Boy) to this list, as it features the steel drums.

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Wow, so many responses!  Let’s scroll up and take a look…

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meanmistermustard said
The guiro is that weird sounding noise on ‘Tell Me What You See ‘, which I love.  

 

You have quite an ear there — I almost missed it.  From what I can hear, it’s used very sparingly, and only one scrape at certain key points, almost buried by the guitar strums.  This song features other percussion (besides drums) — the non-Latin tambourine and the very Latin “palino”, two hollow wooden sticks which have a nice sharp woody sound when hit together.

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Little Piggy Dragonguy said
Is latin music the same as latino music? Because if so, then I would just like to say that Despacito is a great song (both versions). Really great. I could honestly listen to it on repeat all day and not get tired of it. Also Waka Waka.  

I hadn’t heard either song before.  Despacito is okay I guess, but it’s a bit over-“airbrushed” for my taste.  I like Waka Waka, which I thought at first was also overly slick in production, but I noticed it incorporates genuine African pop stylings (though no real indigenous percussion, and only a triangle to augment the hard-driving drums).

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Ahhh Girl said
Which Beatles songs fit into this category or closely fit in?  

I’d also add another Beatles song to the two Ron Nasty cited — “You Know My Name (Look Up The Number)” — though it’s a comedy song, I think it still counts. It has a segment where they are satirizing a lounge lizard act doing a kind of Latin number, with what sound like timbales and a cowbell.

Edit: I see von bontee beat me to it!

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