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Is all modern music terrible?
25 December 2014
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RU Mine. What a song. Play it loud!

AM was my album of 2013, no question. I missed out on seeing them live due to bloody offspring (curse them) but hope they come back bigger and better. They're up with Bowie, Prince and Annie Clark on the don't-miss-again-you-dolt list.

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Absolutely album of 2013. R U Mine is one of my favorite songs of all time. I have to say, Humbug is almost as good as AM. They're a fantastic band. I also missed seeing them live, and regretted it even more because they played My Propeller for the first time in 4 years, and that's one of my top 5 songs of theirs.

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This is an extremely small sample, but I will go ahead and put my thoughts out here. I listened to one song each from Green Day (American Idiot), Arctic Monkeys (R U Mine), and St Vincent (Pieta). Out of those, I found Green Day the most enjoyable. I will listen to these three some more as time permits.

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This is an extremely small sample, but I will go ahead and put my thoughts out here. I listened to one song each from Green Day (American Idiot), Arctic Monkeys (R U Mine), and St Vincent (Pieta). Out of those, I found Green Day the most enjoyable. I will listen to these three some more as time permits.

I haven't heard St. Vincent, but I'll offer opinion on the other two. The song American Idiot is great, and it's not even in the top half if I ranked the album. Incredible.

R U Mine, on the other hand, is my favorite Arctic Monkeys song, so if you don't like it, they might not be for you. They change a lot between albums though, so I'd recommend trying out some earlier songs (I Bet You Look Good On The Dancefloor, 505, My Propeller, Don't Sit Down Cause I've Moved Your Chair are songs from each album that I'd definitely recommend)

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 No.18. Didn't know @Ahhh Girl had a saloon.

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@Hey Jude !, :-)

It seems as though I can't decide if my business is open or closed. The sign hanging on the wall says "closed", but the sign in the window says "open".

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Hey Jude ! said
 No.18. Didn't know @Ahhh Girl had a saloon.

That's some kind of Freudian typo, isn't it? Saloon/ Salon.  ahdn_paul_06

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i hate a lot of it. But there are some good stuff out there. (i Like The Black Keys, Green Day and thats about it)

I Think that Rolling Stone should do a cover story of The Rolling Stones covering "Like a Rolling Stone" or if a Type of Beetle was named after The Beatles.

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georgiewood said

Hey Jude ! said
 No.18. Didn't know @Ahhh Girl had a saloon.

That's some kind of Freudian typo, isn't it? Saloon/ Salon.  ahdn_paul_06 

Oh sorry for that, but from now stay on topic im derailing it too  much. I think im gonna win the award for "derailing threads"stay-on-topic

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Even @Ahhh Girl would not want to return to the topic until she solved the mystery of the Open/Closed salon.

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Perfect, @georgiewood, perfect.

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I"m someone that enjoy music from all decades(at least 60's onwards haven't explored much before that). I have some recommendations you guys might like for modern bands.

 

 

 

 

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^^^ I've got a Tame Impala/Beatles story.

A while back, one of Tame Impala's songs was being played regularly on the local rock station.  When I first heard this song on the radio, I said to my aunt, who was also in the car, "This singer kinda sounds like John Lennon ."  My aunt said to me, "Oh, really?  I thought he kinda sounded like George Harrison ."

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Recently got into a band called The 1975. They're much poppier than most of what I listen to, but they're incredibly inventive. Kind of synth pop with some rock elements. This is my favorite of theirs, called The City.

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It depends on how you define "music" and "terrible." I think I said before, if it moves someone eliciting an emotional response, it qualifies as music to me (art in general for that matter).  I was watching a CNN show "The Sixties" and it made the point that in the 60s they started combining political activism with music.  I hesitate to agree that they were the first, sex and politics have been an integral part of art throughout history, often hidden in metaphor.  Woody Guthrie played a big part in disguising labor issues in song lyrics (or not disguising them!) 30 years earlier. Slave songs when combined with a basic blues progression (invention of jazz/ blues in the early 1900s) often had sex, drugs, and politics written into them.  In the 60s politcal satire made its way into mainstream music in a big way. 

As in every part of life, computers are taking over.  I think music is something that, being so universal, is always evolving, and easy to enjoy (even if it's just Ringo tapping his fingers on his school desk).  I think the internet has and is speeding up the processes of genre-blending/creation and band formation.  I've mentioned virtual bands before, but I see this as a possible sea change in the musical realm.  While I prefer live or "live takes" (thus loving the BBC, Anthology, and PC Deluxe stuff), virtual bands will create entire new genres - and probably some great bands, as to some extent the "randomness" of band members meeting each other will be less when you can find a new bandmate on youtube.  Another type of music that I expect to become more popular are bands like Pomplamoose or single individuals (like Prince) that have each person playing multiple instruments on each track. From another viewpoint, this type of music parallels the desocialization of society that computers and overpopulation spawn.  Of course to me and many "purists", live analog music will always be the best, if for nothing else than an occasional flaw.  I'm not a fan of technopop myself, and probably won't be until they get a lot more accurate in electronically producing sound (like, including the harmonics that resonate inside a guitar body or horn so that the timbre' is much more like the real thing).

There was a whole lot of mindless bubblegum pop in the 60s and 70s too.  I think our memory of music as it ages is tainted because time separates the wheat from the chaff and discards the chaff.  On oldies channels they generally stick to the good stuff, though nonsense that charted occasionally makes its way out.

As computers are changing everything at a rapid pace, I see nothing but good in the future of music.  There will be a lot more of it for public consumption, and a lot more amateur talent discovery. The whole virtual band thing intrigues me no end.  I see it as a way to distribute music cheaply, worldwide, and anonymously for those who don't live in "free speech" countries.

Finally, let's all remember that "the man" likes to hate on newer music than what he grew up on.  So those of us who grew up in the 70s tend to like, listen to, and think the music is good quality.  I've been glad to discover a group of serious music aficionados here, and lots of pointers to new music (some of which I like some I don't).  I'll get back on topic by suggesting this song:

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@Ahhh Girl You could have chosen a much better St V song than Pieta. Listen to Digital Witness or Your Lips Are Red or Marrow or Cruel (one from each of her albums). Her music just might not be your thing though.

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Matt Busby said
 I'll get back on topic by suggesting this song

heart for choosing a Pentatonix video. I finally got to see them at The Roxy this year.

One of my favorites:

 

 

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@Ahhh Girl You could have chosen a much better St V song than Pieta. Listen to Digital Witness or Your Lips Are Red or Marrow or Cruel (one from each of her albums). Her music just might not be your thing though.

That will be my New Year's party. Thanks for the suggestions, @Joe. :-)

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@Joe, I couldn't get into Your Lips Are Red, but the other three are a pleaure. My favorite of the three was Cruel.

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Sorry for bumping an old thread. I saw a link here and just had to chime in.

I'm a pretty big music snob. Of the artists listed here as "proof" that modern music is good, I don't like several and think most of the older ones aren't producing worthwhile stuff any more (except Bowie). My list of "best albums ever" is, at the top end, dominated by albums from 1965-1974.

I still think 2013 was the best year for rock music ever, and 2014 was better than any year in the 60s.

I've already talked about hip hop, so limiting myself to non-hip hop albums, here are some I loved from 2013:

Vampire Weekend - Modern Vampires Of The City

The National - Trouble Will Find Me

CHVRCHES - The Bones Of What You Believe

Arcade Fire - Reflektor

Arctic Monkeys - AM

Queens Of The Stone Age - ...like Clockwork

David Bowie - The Next Day

Foxygen -We Are The 21st Century Ambassadors of Peace and Magic

San Fermin - San Fermin

Cage The Elephant - Melophobia

Frank Turner - Tape Deck Heart

 

That's by no means exhaustive, but I don't think any year from the 60s or even early 70s can come close to that. Throw in Yeezus and Acid Rap...

Last year was relatively disappointing, particularly without RTJ2 or Pinata or You're Dead! or erm whatever the Young Fathers album was called, but all the same, fantastic albums from St Vincent and Sun Kil Moon and Temples and Sharon Van Etten and Damon Albarn and Jack White and Karen O and Angel Olsen and Twin Forks and Cloud Nothings and Glass Animals... there's still absolutely loads of good music out there, more than ever. Brooklyn alone is probably putting out as much great music as all the world in any given 60s year.

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