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Is all modern music terrible?
14 December 2014
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mr. Sun king coming together said

What incident?

Paulsbass returned and tried to delete all of his posts (and got rid of most) leaving many old threads with holes that make them incoherent.

If I spoke prose you'd all find out, I don't know what I talk about.

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14 December 2014
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Funny - even when his posts were there those threads were still incoherent

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As if it matters how a man falls down.'

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About Anaconda, how can someone don't love it? I just watched 25 seconds and I'm traumat... I mean, I'm not going to forget it, those images are going to be forever in my mind, longer than two-virgins. And as I couldn't support such atroci... awesomeness, I decided to look for the lyrics and they are deeper than Why Don't We Do It in the Road or Wild Honey Pie , even deeper than Cry for a Shadow, but they aren't as deep as Cayenne.

About the main question (and talking seriously), for me, it's 50-50, there are good and bad things, though right now I can't think of anything good, but that's because I don't listen to much new music.

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they aren't as deep as Cayenne.

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Mr. Kite said 

 
I don't understand how someone can be indifferent toward music either. It makes no sense to me.

I do wonder whether today's autotune horrorshows will invoke joy, longing and nostalgia to future generations. Do you think people will love Anaconda in years to come?

Nope... Highly doubt it.

My mother is pretty indifferent to music, and I want to talk about nothing else, so being our only family within 800km she's always reminding me that she doesn't care!  She claims to have a "tin ear", but sure picked out my flat spots trying to sing quickly enough.  Anyway, the only reason she listened to music until 5-10 years ago was if it had a good "dance beat" (as in 70s dancing).  I got her out to John Fogerty and Ringo this summer (she's 76).  But to the point, I just can't comprehend it - it's such a part of well...who I am, how I express myself, how I handle tough times (and good ones).  I just can't imagine life without music.

I previously mentioned that Do You Know the Way to San Jose is commonly referred to as one of the worst pop songs ever, yet it's remembered 50 years later.  I was thinking of another pop song of that era that is still remembered by many, Windy not quite as bad (imo of course, not factually) but is remembered less. Not that I'm biased in any way, but I feel the Beatles and their music moved the earth. "The Beatles" do/did more than make music & movies, they (with a little help from their friends) transcended the bounds of modern music, mixing it with society and its issues, politics, religion, whatever.  They weren't the first to do all that stuff, but it and all their new innovations was made far more available target audiences.  Today, most music (I feel) tends to stay with its own age group, as the generation gets older, the oldies channels start playing newer music ;)   But it really struck me at that Beatles festival I went to in May - there were all ages there, and grooving, not whining for a sugary drink.  Even Madonna doesn't attract people from birth to death, she just got popular worldwide when the distribution networks were in place.  Michael Jackson might be one other musician/performer that will be remembered. And I do think some of the Beatles' popularity was due to wi-fis hi-fis becoming common in peoples' homes.  Just a little of their popularity though ;)

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I liken 60's music to early 16th Century art.  Can you imagine Michelangelo and Da Vinci being active at about the same time: working, glowing and throwing off sparks of genius?  What confluence of history, culture and light and water in Italy caused that explosion?  In the 1600's, you know people were saying "is all modern art crap?"  And it pretty much was until the mantle of genius was passed to a group of scruffy iconoclasts in Paris in the middle of the 19th Century.  When I hear 60s music now, I often remark about how good it was and still is.  I attribute a lot of that to the influence and inspiration of the Beatles; they freed up and fired up musical imaginations, and created a wave of popular music that still stands up.

Having said that, I don't sneer at modern music, and I think there is a lot of really good stuff sprinkled amongst the dreck (maybe the good stuff is still being influenced by the Beatles' wave?).  For instance, does anybody else love this? I just find the whole thing to be compelling.

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20 December 2014
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I used to like Bastille, but I think most of their songs sound the same, and I find it really weak when an artist has a career based on a cover (Of The Night). 

21 December 2014
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Oh well, I just knew I'd pick something that isn't hip. *heavy sigh*

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I've been getting into Arctic Monkeys recently, and they're further proof that there's still fantastic music being made now. 

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21 December 2014
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If you can listen to this song and say all modern music is terrible, well... 

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21 December 2014
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^ I don't really like it, but it's not terrible.

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IveJustSeenAFaceo said
I've been getting into Arctic Monkeys recently, and they're further proof that there's still fantastic music being made now. 

Well, they're no Green Day. ;)  

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21 December 2014
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I've been getting into Arctic Monkeys recently, and they're further proof that there's still fantastic music being made now. 

Well, they're no Green Day. ;)  

That's definitely true, but it's hard to be Green Day. 

Mr. Sun King , I used to really like the Black Keys, and then I just kinda got really tired of them. Still got some great songs though. 

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Yeah right, Arctic Monkeys are great and are also the only hope for good rock music today. If they will get mainstream success in US too, i think rock music will meet a revival.

Coldplay are also great, hopefully their next album (possibly final) "A Head Full Of Dreams" will be good, not a trash like Ghost Stories. 

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Arctic Monkeys are awesome. I saw them live, and they were great.

Ed Sheeran isn't bad either, he is talented, but I just think his music is a bit boring.

There is good music, but not everything is everyone's cup of tea.

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The main thing is to know where to look, in my opinion. Look for the buskers and the club-players who write their own music that sounds very good. I've heard a lot of great musicians from listening to buskers and club performers. They just don't get "the big break anymore". It's not so much that all modern music is bad, it's that most of the dominating music in the charts is bad. That's all.

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Linde said
Arctic Monkeys are awesome. I saw them live, and they were great.

It must be a thrilling experience.

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Hey Jude ! said
Yeah right, Arctic Monkeys are great and are also the only hope for good rock music today. If they will get mainstream success in US too, i think rock music will meet a revival.

Coldplay are also great, hopefully their next album (possibly final) "A Head Full Of Dreams" will be good, not a trash like Ghost Stories. 

They've had solid mainstream US success. Do I Wanna Know? is in a Bacardi commercial, and R U Mine? has been in a few video games. 

There's quite a few rock bands still going and thriving, but Arctic Monkeys is definitely the best of the bunch.

Linde, you're really lucky. They're number 5 on my must see list, only behind Radiohead, Rush, Green Day, and The Protomen.

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RU Mine. What a song. Play it loud!

AM was my album of 2013, no question. I missed out on seeing them live due to bloody offspring (curse them) but hope they come back bigger and better. They're up with Bowie, Prince and Annie Clark on the don't-miss-again-you-dolt list.

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