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Problem is, I have a bias towards guitars and think they are 1,000,000% better than saxophones, so I love guitars and hate when artists like Billy Joel regularly replace guitars with saxes for the solos, especially in rock music.
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Guitars are overrated.
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Problem is, I have a bias towards guitars and think they are 1,000,000% better than saxophones, so I love guitars and hate when artists like Billy Joel regularly replace guitars with saxes for the solos, especially in rock music.
You made your comment seem as though that’s also what the Beatles thought, which is probably false. Then you say that because Billy Joel didn’t do stuff like the Beatles did (them having more guitar solos, him having saxophone solos), he’s awful.
Also, Pink Floyd had quite a few sax solos on Dark Side Of The Moon, are they just as bad as Billy Joel?
Edit: before this conversation goes too far, let’s try to stay a little bit on topic.
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27 February 2017
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I always thought the saxophone was a jazz instrument, I never realized there are classical players, but then again, there’s an orchestra with a typewriter.
The saxophone was originally developed for orchestras and military bands. There are many classical pieces for saxophone and in countries as France, Belgium or Russia, for instance, the classical saxophone is one of the most studied instruments in university.
However, you are right that the saxophone is mostly known for its usage in jazz music. And, of course, it is also used in Rock, Pop, Folk and many other styles of music.
I put two videos in spoilers in case you’re interested in how a classical saxophone sounds.
That’s Marcel Mule, arguably the most influential saxophonist of the twentieth century.
And that’s the Habanera saxophone quartet, they are one of the leading quartets in the world currently.
I hope The Beatles have taught you an important lesson, saxophones shouldn’t replace the lead guitarist in a band. The Beatles knew this very well, only offering us 2 sax solos in their career but other artists like Billy Joel forgot this very important lesson.
Yes, the Beatles have taught me an important lesson but it has not been the one you named, sorry. There are solos which sound better on guitar and there are solos which sound better on trumpet, piano, saxophone or whatever instrument you can think of. What is the problem with replacing a lead guitar, when a solo sounds better or fits the mood of the song better on another instrument? As much as I’d never replace the solo in WMGGW with a saxophone solo, I would never replace the sax solo in Us And Them with a guitar solo, but that’s only my opinion.
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12.47pm
10 March 2017
Offline Evangeline said
You made your comment seem as though that’s also what the Beatles thought, which is probably false.
Whether or not they thought it, they almost always had guitar solos instead of sax solos, the only exceptions being Lady Madonna and You Know My Name (Look Up The Number) and I’m fine with those solos.
Evangeline said
Then you say that because Billy Joel didn’t do stuff like the Beatles did (them having more guitar solos, him having saxophone solos), he’s awful.
I like Billy Joel, except for the sax solos, I’d much rather hear the solos from songs like Scenes From An Italian Restaurant on an electric guitar.
Evangeline said
Also, Pink Floyd had quite a few sax solos on Dark Side Of The Moon, are they just as bad as Billy Joel?
Let’s compare their 2 most popular albums, Pink Floyd’s 1973 The Dark Side Of The Moon and Billy Joel’s 1977 The Stranger.
Solos:
The Dark Side Of The Moon:
Speak To Me (N/A)
Breathe (N/A)
On The Run (the whole song is a synth solo)
Time (1, guitar)
The Great Gig In The Sky (1, vocals)
Money (2, 1 saxophone, 1 guitar)
Us And Them (2, 1 saxophone, 1 piano)
Any Colour You Like (2, half of the song is a synth solo, the other half is a guitar solo)
Brain Damage (1, synth)
Eclipse (N/A)
The Stranger:
Movin’ Out (Anthony’s Song) (1, guitar)
The Stranger (N/A)
Just The Way You Are (3, saxophone)
Scenes From An Italian Restaurant (6, 1 saxophone, 1 various mouth instruments, 1 piano, 1 saxophone, 1 violin, 1 saxophone)
Vienna (1, accordion)
Only The Good Die Young (1, saxophone)
She’s Always A Woman (1, piano)
Get It Right The First Time (1, flute)
Everybody Has A Dream (N/A)
Totals:
The Dark Side Of The Moon:
3 guitar, 2 sax, 3 synth, 1 piano, 1 vocals
The Stranger:
1 guitar, 7 saxophone, 2 piano, 4 other
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14 February 2016
Offline You’re the one that keeps discussing it here. I already gave an on topic reply. You have not. I’m not in the wrong here.
Still on topic.
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Offline Evangeline said
You’re the one that keeps discussing it here. I already gave an on topic reply. You have not. I’m not in the wrong here.Still on topic.
Schools officially out. I did horrible on my year-end CAT test though. I’m in the 99%tile for English, at the level of a 4th grader for math, and average for science.I have no clue how I’m going to pass my GED next year with those numbers, but I’m studying like the dickens for it. I told my mom I’m passing all of it on the first try, so I have a lot of work to do.
99% ?!?!??! Evangeline you have failed us! (I wonder what kind of people get 100%).
Good luck Evangeline, as the Irish say, ‘be sound like’.
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99% ?!?!??! Evangeline you have failed us! (I wonder what kind of people get 100%).
The kind of person. If you’re in the 100%tile, then you’re better than 100% of people.
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Offline Good luck with the math studying, @Evangeline. If I had to take a math test right now, I’d probably be at about 3rd grade. Whatever I learned after that left me long ago.
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Offline I’ve got free periods to end the day today, and I’m sitting here, with 15 minutes till the end of school, and I’m BORED!
I’m listening to isolated drums, strings and bass to Here Comes The Sun to try to cure my boredom, and I’m worried my laptop will run out of battery…
Of course, I could be doing work, but I’m procrastinating!
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Offline One of my favourite prog rock practice pieces, Starless by King Crimson, features a great soprano sax part which duets with the vocals and has a solo of its own. Trying to avoid any Beatles before my 50th Peppers gets here, it’s hard though. Might go practice to Crimson instead.
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Literally seconds after I picked it up, My Sweet Lord started playing! 
while I was quietly humming the song to myself, I looked at other CDs, particularly Pink Floyd (Animals and The Wall were both £7, might get one of those next). Finally, before I paid for MMT, I saw some t-shirts, one with the Sgt Pepper cover, one with the Dark Side Of The Moon cover and one with The Rolling Stones logo, costing £17 each. I’d spent all my money though, so I couldn’t get any of them.
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Offline I’m very sorry for my brief absence from the forum. I threw up on my bedroom carpet, so I had to clean it up using Resolve carpet cleaner and then I had to take a shower, put on some fresh clothes, and I decided to have seafood salad with hot sauce on a pita bread for lunch. You guys (and dolls) know how long it takes for the carpet cleaner to dry as well as things I can do to speed up the process.
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I’m very sorry for my brief absence from the forum. I threw up on my bedroom carpet, so I had to clean it up using Resolve carpet cleaner and then I had to take a shower, put on some fresh clothes, and I decided to have seafood salad with hot sauce on a pita bread for lunch. You guys (and dolls) know how long it takes for the carpet cleaner to dry as well as things I can do to speed up the process.
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Offline Silly Girl said
Why do you feel the need to apologise for not being on the forum for a few minutes? Seems a very pointless post.
Sorry SG I was gone for 6 minutes because I was filling my water bottle but I’m back now 🙂 Hope I didn’t miss out too much!
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