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Starr Shine? said
Attack in England = No mention of laws

Attack in America = Gun laws always  

I just found this fantastic article: http://www.theage.com.au/world.....yt7ys.html

It takes 30 seconds to read, and it beautifully sums it up.

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Doesn't sum up why solutions aren't brought up for other not shooting tragedies.

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Starr Shine? said
Doesn't sum up why solutions aren't brought up for other not shooting tragedies. 

 I'll never get the argument of "yeah but what about...?". 

Gun related deaths is a major problem so why not tackle that instead of pointing to knife crime, or whatever else, and bemoaning that?

You tackle each, not point to another and say "yeah but" before doing nothing. 

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But we don't, it's more of forum reporting that I'm commenting on.

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Starr Shine? said
But we don't, it's more of forum reporting that I'm commenting on.  

This forum reporting on what goes on in the world?

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So, @Starr Shine?, the point you appear to be raising, is following gun massacres in the US, many of us - including some of your fellow Americans - point at your gun laws and the role they play in such incidents, while we do not bring up, following such incidents as the recent homemade bomb that failed in London, how that perpetrator was able to get hold of the chemicals needed to create his bomb?

The trouble with coming up with ways to prevent a bomber getting hold of ingredients to make a bomb, is that many everyday chemicals and items with perfectly normal uses can be turned into homemade bombs. Do you ban mobile phones, for instance, because they can be used as a trigger device? Do we ban certain fertilisers because, as well as being useful in cultivation, they can be used to create an explosive?

These are trickier things to find answers to, than a man holed up in hotel room, surrounded by enough legally bought weaponry and ammunition for a small army, twelve of the guns equipped with perfectly legal "bump-fire" stocks - whose sole aim is to get a weapon to respond more like an automatic, who injuries 528 people, and kills 58 people. Incidents such as that makes many of us feel compelled to express our amazement that your laws are such - especially in a open-carry State like Nevada - that the shooter did nothing wrong until he broke the window in his hotel room to take aim.

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Though banning guns isnt as simple.

There is a well established black market for guns with a ban, it would grow.

The country has had a flat ban (of achohal) in the past and that saw the rise of criminals built around the issue.

Sure having limited bans and better background checks, types of guns allowed, limits.

Also this focues on an outlier, suicide is far more likely than homicide.

Heck in countries that use guns more like Israel and Swizerland both have a draft. The US is so gung ho on military spending, maybe have a draft or have some form of military service required for gun ownership.

There are factors like the psychology, which are factor in any large scale attaks.

The weapon isnt the only thing, the person behind it is far more universal. Since a person is the one who decieds to make/buy a bomb or a gun.

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None of that gives a compelling reason we shouldn't make gun ownership more carefully regulated, limited and monitored...

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Cause it wasn't.

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Starr Shine? said
Cause it wasn't.  

Well in that case... never mind.

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Its important to keep guns out of the hands of gangs, mass shooters, homocidal boyfriends, and extremely depressed individuals. NRA lobbying makes it difficult to pass any legislation, as does the complexity of the issue. 

Rapid increase in tech also makes things more difficult. Now you can download the 3D print schematics of a fully-automatic assault rifle to assemble at home. 

The US has a unique gun violence problem that has to be combatted in all possible ways, including but not limited to legislation. 

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So not homicidal people in general?

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No they should get guns without background checks. 

"The pump don't work cause the vandals took the handles!"

-Bob Dylan, Subterranean Homesick Blues

 

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A year ago today President Trump was elected.

God Bless America!

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Ron Nasty said
A year ago today President Trump was elected.

God Bless America!

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He hasn't actually started the destruction of the world so it's not been the unmitigated disaster some believed it would be. Admittedly, Trump has offended pretty much every single person who isn't one of his rich mates, screwed up many areas of American and Foreign policies, and nearly came to nuclear war with North Korea,  but we all continue to wake in the morning (or whatever time of day you wake) and wonder if we can be bothered facing another day.

So let's all give thanks.

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@meanmistermustard said
[Trump] hasn't actually started the destruction of the world...

I'd say it's too early to say.

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Australia has voted yes to gay marriage to join the other 24 countries with gay marriage. 

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That's certainly something to be proud about! a-hard-days-night-george-10

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Extremists, from both sides of any debate, always tend to disappoint me, especially in this social media age when it is so easy to reveal yourself as nasty scum because you think you can hide behind a mask of anonymity, so it's alright to say vile things and make threats that you wouldn't in person.

Here is a case in point, the very wonderful Mandy Harvey, a truly terrific artist discovered on America's Got Talent this year (she reminds me quite a bit of Emmylou, which means @meanmistermustard might like her):

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Much as I hate these shows, they do sometimes throw up unique talents who would take much longer to be exposed via the traditional route for one reason another, and this is a case in point: a great singer, a great songwriter, she just happens to have lost her hearing at the age of 18 (now 29). After that first remarkable performance though, truly inspirational in my opinion, she received death threats from the deaf community via social media for promoting "oralism".

There is a section of the deaf community that, for some reason I do not understand, object to deaf people using anything but sign language to communicate with the hearing world. Now, first off, what a stupid attitude. It's like me saying I'm off to live in Paris but won't be bothering to learn French.

While I think more of us should know signing (I, myself, have rusty Makaton), I wouldn't encourage the attitude that because the hearing community is lazy, the deaf community should make it an offence to communicate with the hearing world in its way, audibly. Especially when considering a talented young woman who, having been hearing until she was 18, spent around 2/3 of her life understanding sound.

Death threats for singing? Feck off! Disgusting!

This is her live show appearance - just her and a uke and another original song. She came 4th, but I bet it's a good bet Simon has signed her:

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