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I read the news today (oh boy) - Current world events
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Technically, the U.S. isn't a democracy and never was intended as such. It's technically a republic, as the people elect leaders to represent them. A true democracy would be too difficult to do (and probably a pretty terrible idea).

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The U.S. is a republic though a democracy can have elected leaders, the elected leaders are elected by the people and not by the electoral collage.

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I read the news today... or rather I didn't!

An A-list celebrity who is married to another A-list celebrity discovered that a UK newspaper was about to reveal that he had been involved in a extramarital threesome and went to High Court to get a super-injunction to block the story, supposedly to protect their young children, but more likely to protect their public image as they trade a great deal on their happy family image.

The first judge refused the application, but on appeal a second judge granted it.

This means that those involved in the story cannot be named in England and Wales. They have been named in America. A Sunday newspaper in Scotland, where the injunction doesn't apply, has named them. And, in this internet age, the couple involved are easy enough to discover, and I have a good idea who they are.

Should you know who they are, DO NOT post the names on this Forum. It could bring the full force of the law down on Joe because while BB is on a US server, it is run from where the injunction applies.

I'm merely commenting that it's a little bit funny how those with wealth and influence are still able to gag the English and Welsh media (and I'm no great fan of the UK press) while the rest of the world is able to run the story.

It just shows how ridiculous the English courts are. The story is out, known all over the world, but the English courts have banned me from reading it. Our courts need to catch up with the fact that this type of injunction is a joke in the age of the internet.

I repeat, should you know who the couple are, DO NOT POST THEM HERE.

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I don't think it should be reported in the first place. Who cares if A and B have a little fun with C. (Well they will now since it's forbidden to speak about in England and Wales)

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The U.S. is a republic though a democracy can have elected leaders, the elected leaders are elected by the people and not by the electoral collage.

But the College decides who the people get to choose between. Just like they used to do it in the USSR for members of their parliament. Just like we do for who gets put forward at the elections by each party. It's all the power-brokers who decide - and anyone who thinks it's even close to democracy; well, I have a nice watch to sell you.

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Starr Shine? said
I don't think it should be reported in the first place. Who cares if A and B have a little fun with C. (Well they will now since it's forbidden to speak about in England and Wales)

It depends who it is and if they preach against doing something but are doing it themselves or trade of a clean, wholesome living yet are as crooked. 

If a politician or man of God or whoever is banging on about the sanctity of marriage and moralising about the evils of fornication or homosexuality but is screwing around then it should be made known.

However I don't give a crap what a musician, writer, film star, footballer, gets up to. 

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I don't think it should be reported in the first place. Who cares if A and B have a little fun with C. (Well they will now since it's forbidden to speak about in England and Wales)

It depends who it is and if they preach against doing something but are doing it themselves or trade of a clean, wholesome living yet are as crooked. 

If a politician or man of God or whoever is banging on about the sanctity of marriage and moralising about the evils of fornication or homosexuality but is screwing around then it should be made known.

However I don't give a crap what a musician, writer, film star, footballer, gets up to. 

Agreed, especially if that part about trading on their family image is true but it's actually a load of bollocks.

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trcanberra said

Starr Shine? said
The U.S. is a republic though a democracy can have elected leaders, the elected leaders are elected by the people and not by the electoral collage.

But the College decides who the people get to choose between. Just like they used to do it in the USSR for members of their parliament. Just like we do for who gets put forward at the elections by each party. It's all the power-brokers who decide - and anyone who thinks it's even close to democracy; well, I have a nice watch to sell you.

We pick the legislators which in the grand scheme have more power than the executive branch .

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Starr Shine? said

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Starr Shine? said
The U.S. is a republic though a democracy can have elected leaders, the elected leaders are elected by the people and not by the electoral collage.

But the College decides who the people get to choose between. Just like they used to do it in the USSR for members of their parliament. Just like we do for who gets put forward at the elections by each party. It's all the power-brokers who decide - and anyone who thinks it's even close to democracy; well, I have a nice watch to sell you.

We pick the legislators which in the grand scheme have more power than the executive branch .

Which of these nice watches would you like ....

We 'pick' from a small pool nominated and financed by big business and agreed upon in shady backroom deals.

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Ya but unlike the presidential elections, Americans still vote for the people running directly. Regardless of how corrupt you view the legislative elections, it is still a direct election. Though that doesn't make the US a democracy.

Though we weren't supposed to be able to vote for the Senate but now Americans can. It was supposed to be that the Representatives were voted for and the Senate wasn't so that they wouldn't have to worry about getting elected popularly and it would keep a balance of powers but now that is gone.

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Watching (woo hoo! Yes! Watching! Happy dance around the room!) mayor of London, Boris Johnson, banging on about how it would be hypocritical for Barack Obama to express a view about the UK's EU referendum when he visits next week. He says, knowing Obama thinks we shouldn't leave, that it would be hypocrisy for him to comment as the US would never cede sovereignty to another. But, and I'm sure our US friends will correct me if I've got this wrong, isn't the US made up of states that have ceded some of their sovereignty to create a greater whole?

Erm, isn't that why North Carolina's HB2 will ultimately be struck down? You know, because NC ceded some of its sovereignty when it became part of the United States of America. Isn't Obama, as leader of 50 States who have ceded sovereignty to create what Americans believe to be a greater whole, in a perfect position to comment on whether he believes some loss of sovereignty is a price worth paying to be part of a bigger club?

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I've never got this nonsense of how Presidents, politicians etc of other countries shouldn't comment on UK business and topics in hand. We live in a country of free speech, does that end at the borders or is dependent on living in the UK for over a minimum period of time? Usually its uttered by those who hold the opposite view. 

This should probably be in Pet Peeves.

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Ron Nasty said
isn't the US made up of states that have ceded some of their sovereignty to create a greater whole?

Some of them like Texas and Hawaii though others started out as territories and never had sovereignty like Kansas. 

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Former circus lions begin journey to South African refuge from Lima

LIMA (Reuters) - A blind lion, one that is missing an eye, and 31 others that had worked in circuses began the journey to a South African wildlife sanctuary from Lima, Peru, on Friday in what their rescuers called "the biggest transfer of animals in captivity" ever undertaken.

“These lions have endured hell on earth and now they are heading home to paradise. This is the world for which nature intended these animals for," Jan Creamer, president of Animal Defenders International, said in a statement. "It is the perfect ending to ADI’s operation which has eliminated circus suffering in another country...”

The report continues in the link, its not nice reading in a couple of places.

I hope that those who caused one second of suffering to the lions happen to one stumble upon a very hungry pride and fail to escape. Either that or they are used as bait to teach the lions how to hunt their prey again. 

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The lions arrived safely.

More than 30 lions rescued from circuses in Colombia and Peru have been flown to South Africa to start a new life in a sanctuary.

Reporters said they appeared a little distressed but healthy after their long journey.

A circus surrendered some of the lions, while others were seized in raids.

The US-based group Animal Defenders International (ADI), which was behind the action, says almost all the lions have had teeth or claws removed.

They would not survive in the wild.

The lions are being transferred by land to the Emoya Big Cat Sanctuary, a 5,000-hectare reserve in northern South Africa. There, the lions will have drinking pools, platforms, toys and veterinary care...

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^ Great to hear, I don't understand why circuses see the need to have wild animals. If your circus had good enough human performers then it would stand on its own two feet. You wouldn't need some poor, abused lions, elephants, rhinos and even some more common animals like ostriches and horses. They weren't born to entertain humans by doing stupid, degrading tricks so why should we whip them to perform something they don't want to do?

Anyways, it's good to hear they get to live the remainder of their lives, where they belong.

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^ Great to hear, I don't understand why circuses see the need to have wild animals. If your circus had good enough human performers then it would stand on its own two feet. You wouldn't need some poor, abused lions, elephants, rhinos and even some more common animals like ostriches and horses. They weren't born to entertain humans by doing stupid, degrading tricks so why should we whip them to perform something they don't want to do?

Anyways, it's good to hear they get to live the remainder of their lives, where they belong.

I dont go to circuses as they often have some kind of animal doing tricks. Plus they are annoying places to go.

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^ I like circuses but I always ring beforehand to see if they have animals in the show. If they say they do, then it's an instant "thanks but I don't support animals in circus" and put the phone down. Hopefully it puts an idea in the circus' heads that they're losing customers over having some rhinos locked up in a car-park next to their big-top.

 

As I've said before, a good circus can perform without animals. It's a crap one that has to resort to using exotic animals to gain their "oooohhhhsss" and "aaaaahhhs".

 

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I always want everything to do on as the performers always look too cocky and self-assured. Same as when watching golf - the best moments are when it all goes wrong.

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