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I read the news today (oh boy) - Current world events
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meanmistermustard

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11 September 2013 - 11.16am

Joe said
Here's a good discussion on it: http://www.theguardian.com/not.....es/query/0,,-80426,00.html
There are a lot of contenders, and the US doesn't seem to come close.

 

Joe, the link you posted comes up with the message

Sorry - we haven't been able to serve the page you asked for

any chance you can repost it.

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Ron Nasty
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11 September 2013 - 6.32pm

Another try at the link -

http://www.theguardian.com/not.....es/query/0,,-80426,00.html

Nope. Link keeps coming up broken.

Here's a link to the search -

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=oldest+modern+democracy&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&gws_rd=cr&ei=16gwUu2DEsjx4QSDmIGACw

Which, for me, is showing the discussion Joe referred to at the top of the page.

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11 September 2013 - 6.46pm

And now for a Public Service Announcement:

 

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11 September 2013 - 6.59pm

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11 September 2013 - 7.34pm

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/new.....tured.html

Pinochet regime used George Harrison and Julio Iglesias to torment prisoners while they were being tortured

 

 

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11 September 2013 - 8.38pm

cbatcu said
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/new.....tured.html

Pinochet regime used George Harrison and Julio Iglesias to torment prisoners while they were being tortured

 

Yeah saw that in the paper. No idea what to make of it (George's music being used that is). I suppose any song played over and over for hours will drive anyone to the point of distraction tho its not that big a leap to think someone might have found some comfort in the lyrics to My Sweet Lord - of course not forgetting the horrors of torture.

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12 September 2013 - 12.00am

Up here in Canada, things are getting a bit wacky in the province of Quebec:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/.....alues.html

 

It's a baffling 'Charter Of Values', as things like Christmas trees and crucifixes are still perfectly fine in public buildings apparently.

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27 October 2013 - 11.07am

What's all this that's kicked off about the BBC being biased? It seems to have come from nowhere all of a sudden, unless I've just missed the ''rumblings'' of it. Surely the fact that both left and right-wing people believe it shows a bias towards the other one proves that, actually, they don't?

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27 October 2013 - 1.49pm

Been rumbling along for years, usually by people who have a gripe against the BBC. 

If its coming from the Times, The Sun etc ignore it, Murdoch doesnt like the fact another company can be a rival, and the idea that a Murdoch company can complain about anything is laughable considering what they do.

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27 October 2013 - 5.33pm

Yeah I know it's always kinda been said but I just logged into twitter this morning and everyone seemed to be on about it for no apparent reason. Dunno where it's come from, though I wouldn't be surprised if it's one of Murdoch's papers that have started it again, like you say.

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27 October 2013 - 6.00pm

Nothing to do with Murdoch this time. Comes from an interview with Grant Shapps, co-chair of the Conservative Party, in The Telegraph today, mouthpiece of the Tory Party. It's what you expect though, eighteen months out from a General Election, the Government starts threatening the BBC license fee over perceived bias against it. Myself, I would have an independent panel deciding the license fee settlement, and not politicians.

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27 October 2013 - 6.32pm

Sounds like the periodic threat to PBS funding by conservatives in the US.

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27 October 2013 - 6.48pm

parlance said
Sounds like the periodic threat to PBS funding by conservatives in the US.

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We fine folks at NPR hear the same thing all the time. Even our local representative (who's a fan of "Car Talk") has spoken of stopping federal funding. 

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27 October 2013 - 7.05pm

Its all related to the expenses scandal, the Jimmy Saville catastrophe, the loss of, what £90m(?) over its aborted disaster to digitize its archives, and a few other things. The Beeb haven't exactly handled any of it well and when folk are paying £145 each for it I can understand why the license fee is coming under scutiny - tho in this case it smells more of a headline grabber than anything else. 

The BBC have already said it wants to be more transparent, less secret, and cut the mountains of bureaucracy, so its hardly a story .

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8 November 2013 - 3.44am

Wish I could discuss the news at the dinner table, but my other half is on a right-wing religious binge at the moment and ANY conversation ends up being about global conspiracies and new world orders.

It's nice to be able to keep up with some decent debate here.

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8 November 2013 - 3.53am

I'm curious about what our Canadian friends are making of the only Canadian story we are hearing here in the UK, and is probably the only one being heard elsewhere in the world - the Mayor of Toronto: the crack-smoking, murder-threatening Rob Ford? And I thought Boris Johnson was embarrassing!

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8 November 2013 - 4.01am

A super Typhoon is headed toward the Philippians.  http://www.huffingtonpost.com/....._hp_ref=tw

trcanberra said
Wish I could discuss the news at the dinner table, but my other half is on a right-wing religious binge at the moment and ANY conversation ends up being about global conspiracies and new world orders.

It's nice to be able to keep up with some decent debate here.

I feel that way when I'm around my in-laws or my father. My father has turned more right-winged in the past few years. They are always trying to point out this about the liberals or that and I'm looking for an escape route because its all one sided. 

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8 November 2013 - 4.05am

No comment.

Well...  I guess I sort of *have* to...

Here in Canada, our politicians aren't celebrities or "personalities".  They're just public servants.  So the Rob Ford thing is just a big headache for us.  He's been in the news repeatedly for years for all of his Chris-Farley-esque drunken escapades, and it would be nice if he just went away, but it probably won't happen.

He won't be resigning from his position and he can't be removed from it easily (although he can be marginalized for a while).  He has another year to go, so I expect that he'll go into rehab for alcoholism.  In the days leading up to his confession he repeatedly made mention of the fact that he has problems with alcohol, so I imagine he'll play himself to be a victim.

After rehab he'll probably come back and like any good celebrity who breaks the law, he'll bust his ass and be the best mayor he can be until the next election which he'll lose.

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8 November 2013 - 4.26am

It does make you wonder why more countries don't have "recall" laws for elected officials, like they have in the US, including my own. And we were promised one by both parties we now have in government.

It is where democracy becomes embarrassing, when someone so obviously unfit for office, and whose behavior has become a worldwide story, cannot be removed unless he resigns, or is convicted (seems the type of jerk who'd hold on even if charged).

A great example of when democracy goes wrong!

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8 November 2013 - 5.12am

That typhoon looks bad - got a lot of in-laws there so hope they do ok.

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