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I read the news today (oh boy) - Current world events
18 October 2020
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People not participating is a problem, but I think we should be careful to not automatically pin that on the voters/non-voters, since both mainstream parties do a pretty horrible job giving people reasons to vote for them. If I was in the USA I would definitely vote for Biden over Trump but that would be more a reflection of my intense dislike of Trump than any endorsement of Biden's actual politics, which are as milquetoast as it gets. 

In other words, it's hard to interest the population in your party when what you're offering is essentially a continuation of the status quo. 

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The Hole Got Fixed said

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^Which states would they win?

If “Did Not Vote” Had Been A Candidate In The 2016 US Presidential Election,  It Would Have Won By a Landslide – Brilliant MapsImage Enlarger

 

Another map you might find interesting:

 

2016 US Presidential Electoral Map If Only [X] Voted – Brilliant MapsImage Enlarger

 

And this one:

Nothing Divides Voters Like Owning a Gun - The New York TimesImage Enlarger

  

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A very important election in Bolivia tonight, as the country picks its new president, VP and congress. 

It comes after previous president Evo Morales was forced to resign in a US-backed coup last November after a controversy over whether he could stay on for a fourth term in office, having been in power since 2006. Morales, a socialist and the first indigenous born politician to hold the office, ran a popular government which drastically reduced poverty, reduced Bolivia's dependence on organisations like the World Bank/IMF, saw increased rights and representation for indigenous citizens, and oversaw strong economic growth thanks to his nationalisation of the country's natural resources. However, the latter element has raised environmental concerns, and for his entire presidency he's been opposed by the country's wealthier classes. 

He was replaced by interim president Jeanine Áñez, a hard right winger who once called Bolivia's indigenous population 'Satanic', but who is not running for re-election after saying she did not want to split the conservative vote. Morales' chosen successor from his party, MAS, is his former Minister of the Economy, Luis Arce, who is currently leading in polls, with his main opposition being centrist Carlos Mesa and Luis Camacho of the right wing Creemos party. Hopefully Arce can pull off a victory in this election and pick up where Morales left off. 

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50yearslate said

The Hole Got Fixed said

@50yearslate said

^Which states would they win?

If “Did Not Vote” Had Been A Candidate In The 2016 US Presidential Election,  It Would Have Won By a Landslide – Brilliant MapsImage Enlarger

 

Another map you might find interesting:

 

2016 US Presidential Electoral Map If Only [X] Voted – Brilliant MapsImage Enlarger

 

And this one:

Nothing Divides Voters Like Owning a Gun - The New York TimesImage Enlarger

  

washington = goals

  

Not Vermont, Massachusetts or Maine's 1st district? (And presumably DC)

 

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A very important election in Bolivia tonight, as the country picks its new president, VP and congress. 

It comes after previous president Evo Morales was forced to resign in a US-backed coup last November after a controversy over whether he could stay on for a fourth term in office, having been in power since 2006. Morales, a socialist and the first indigenous born politician to hold the office, ran a popular government which drastically reduced poverty, reduced Bolivia's dependence on organisations like the World Bank/IMF, saw increased rights and representation for indigenous citizens, and oversaw strong economic growth thanks to his nationalisation of the country's natural resources. However, the latter element has raised environmental concerns, and for his entire presidency he's been opposed by the country's wealthier classes. 

He was replaced by interim president Jeanine Áñez, a hard right winger who once called Bolivia's indigenous population 'Satanic', but who is not running for re-election after saying she did not want to split the conservative vote. Morales' chosen successor from his party, MAS, is his former Minister of the Economy, Luis Arce, who is currently leading in polls, with his main opposition being centrist Carlos Mesa and Luis Camacho of the right wing Creemos party. Hopefully Arce can pull off a victory in this election and pick up where Morales left off. 

  

That's fascinating. Too many elections this month, so I hadn't clocked this one! Exit polls are showing Arce winning, so that seems pretty good.

 

Perhaps worth noting in this thread that Biden has now been up double digits in the national polling averages for the last 10 days now - looking increasingly like a Biden win. Then again, polls don't mean anything if nobody votes.a-hard-days-night-ringo-15

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a-hard-days-night-ringo-8Indeed, I'm really hopeful for a Biden win, but I just hope sensible Americans don't get complacent seeing this polls. Campaign like you're 10 points down, always.

Also, the full results won't be out for a couple of days, but quick counts in Bolivia have shown that MAS have won the election with more than 50% of the vote, which means that there won't need to be a run off round. I'm naturally biased of course, but to me this is great news - when the coup happened last November we were told that it wasn't a coup, that Morales was a dictator despised by Bolivians everywhere, and famously by Elon Musk that 'we can coup who we want', and yet MAS have been decidedly returned to power, and Morales can come home. I hope that Arce will carry on the campaign to reduce poverty and promote growth while protecting Bolivia's environment, fighting for indigenous rights and working against corruption in the government. 

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Also, the full results won't be out for a couple of days, but quick counts in Bolivia have shown that MAS have won the election with more than 50% of the vote, which means that there won't need to be a run off round. I'm naturally biased of course, but to me this is great news - when the coup happened last November we were told that it wasn't a coup, that Morales was a dictator despised by Bolivians everywhere, and famously by Elon Musk that 'we can coup who we want', and yet MAS have been decidedly returned to power, and Morales can come home. I hope that Arce will carry on the campaign to reduce poverty and promote growth while protecting Bolivia's environment, fighting for indigenous rights and working against corruption in the government. 

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@The Hole Got Fixed I didn't see Vermont it's too tiny

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