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It does disappoint me when a political leadership race doesn’t go the way you’d want that it’s always because the race has been fixed and not that the people, actual voters, don’t support the person you’d choose… The voters that the Democratic Party need aren’t voting Bernie, not a conspiracy but a fact. He’s not even a member of the party, remaining an independent, so could always run as a third candidate if he believes he has the support…

Beatlebug said

@lovelyritametermaid said

It really irks me how much some Americans are afraid of the term “socialism.” It really irks me how in many people’s eyes socialism automatically equates to communism and thus “evil” and how the Red Scare has really tainted our country in terms of how we come to view things such as socialism, even though what Bernie proposes if very much less severe than they think. (If that makes sense? I really hope someone is picking up what I’m putting down…..). PSA: Bernie’s socialism does not equal communism and everything negative that we associate with such, fellow Democrats!  

I’m curious, Rita, when you say “Bernie’s socialism” what do you mean? How are his ideas different from, say, the policies prevalent in Venezuela?

 

  

Haha I won a bet with my friends on who was going to say the word ‘Venezuela’ first. I should be getting €2 in my account now, cheers Bebu 😉

Also, Trump appears to have some pretty bad memory issues and it wouldn’t surprise me if he goes down (or is already going down) the Reagan path. At least Sanders still seems to be mentally still there.

It would be reasonably acceptable if that was the first and only time he’d forgotten to sign a bill but there’s been quite a few more instances.

Ain’t that right, Tim Apple?

Oh no I’m not laughing at you, it’s just anytime the word ‘socialism’ comes up ‘Venezuela’ and ‘Sweden’/’Nordic’ closely follow (damn I should have put money on for Sweden). I just thought it would be you that would mention Venezuela first. My close social group are involved in the ‘politics’ of the BB even though they’re not members because they find our going-ons quite funny. Some of the other ‘Venezuela’ voters thought RN would mention it, another one Rita, another one Quarry and someone said SS?. 50c from each and I’m a happy camper.

The clip of Sanders praising breadlines has been taken out of context. His entire quote was:

What has to be understood is the economic problems of Nicaragua are not unique in Central America or in the third world. In fact, as poor as Nicaragua is, one of the nice things that I saw is that as a result of government policy, direct government policy in terms of the distribution of food, people are not hungry, by and large. I think it’s fair to say. You know, it’s funny, sometimes American journalists talk about how bad a country is, that people are lining up for food. That is a good thing! In other countries people don’t line up for food: the rich get the food and the poor starve to death.

You’ve probably only seen the bit in italics.

Over a choice whether people get food provided to them from the government or starve to death during times of economic instability, I think any sane person would pick “yes, give them food”. 

As for Castro, yep you can imagine the same thing again. You take a section of one quote, discard what comes before and after it and it makes him seem like the communist he really is.

“Way back in, what was it, 1961, they invaded Cuba,” Sanders said,“and everybody was totally convinced that Castro was the worst guy in the world and all of the Cuban people were going to rise up in rebellion against Fidel Castro. They forgot that he educated their kids, gave their kids healthcare, totally transformed the society.”

“Not that Fidel Castro and Cuba are perfect, they certainly are not,” Sanders added, “but just because Ronald Reagan dislikes these people doesn’t mean that people in their own nations feel the same way.

Propaganda is rampant on both sides even with diverse sources you have to do your own digging, as bloody annoying as it is. Everyone has their own message to spin.

The most important thing is HoleyApple2020 would never do this to anyone, we’re as blunt as a butter knife.

On a non-US politics note:

Fuck

FOUR new cases of the coronavirus have been confirmed in the Republic of Ireland.

Two male and two female patients from the west of Ireland have tested positive for COVID-19, the National Public Health Emergency Team said this evening.

It is believed they may be part of the same family.

The patients are all associated with travel from the same affected area in northern Italy.

*screams, puts on hazmat suit*

Also, soon to be RIP Flybe. Budget airline will collapse in a few hours, their website is already no longer live and I’d hate to be the poor lads flying out with them tomorrow because good luck. I had a choice of booking with them in January to go to Manchester but chose Ryanair to Liverpool instead…phew. I’m sorry for the 2,000 people that will probably all lose their jobs unless some kind airline decides to take a few of them.

Well there’s one thing I can trust with Michael O’Leary, it’s stability and feeling mildly judged by an overly stern 30-year old woman as she judges whether my briefcase really does count as carry-on luggage (it technically should but I generally overstuff it so it wouldn’t actually fit in their tester things and I just whip it to my back so they never get a proper look at it.

Mwahahaha, I’M NOT PAYING €20 FOR A SUITCASE!!!

Ryanair did once leave me and about 150 passengers standing in a stairwell for over 2 hours in Dublin Airport (I think I was live posting on here from the stairwell). Nobody ever came to tell us why we were not boarding the plane and when we would get on it, until we were suddenly told “you can board!”.

I befriended a girl from Hamburg and we were talking about this dastardly cheap airline that treats us like crap but we’ll be back again because I will book the €20 flight to Hamburg with Ryanair than the €90 flight to Hamburg with Aer Lingus. We eventually found out why we were abandoned- they needed to clean the airplane and had to call an emergency cleaning group in. I can only bloody imagine what happened to the poor plane before we got on it. 

And yeah, my parents have a trip to Milan booked in September so we’ll see how it’s getting on during the summer. They had to pick the one bloody spot .

I am really hoping college doesn’t get closed for 2 weeks or if it does that the lecturers put up online lectures. It’ll be chaos especially in final year. 

Whaat about the greed (what about us?), where did we go wrong OOOOOHHHHH SOMEONE TELL ME WHYYYY (what abooooout usssssss?).

Oh we aren’t singing Earth Song? Right-eo

Oooh boo with edit my joke makes no sense, feel free to delete @Beatlebug