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I read the news today (oh boy) - Current world events
25 July 2019
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So, if it snows the trains in the UK grind to a halt, if it's windy the trains in the UK grind to a halt, if it's hot the trains in the UK grind to a halt. Really should just go with the line: it's not reasonable weather the trains are screwed.

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Didn't want to spam 'Happiness Is A Nice Thread' so I decided to put this here, as a bit of a refresher from the usual depressing news cycle...

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29 July 2019
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Beatlebug said
Didn't want to spam 'Happiness Is A Nice Thread' so I decided to put this here, as a bit of a refresher from the usual depressing news cycle...

  

I have no idea who Bindi is? Is she the cat or one of the two women?

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29 July 2019
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^She’s Steve ‘Crocodile Hunter’ Irwin’s daughter. I always enjoyed that show as a wain, it used to be on sometimes after The Simpsons.

Why anyone would want to get married at 21, I don’t understand. I get the whole ‘I found the one blah, blah’, can you not go and enjoy a carefree youth together and get to the marriage bit a few years down the line?

Out of the 50 or so girls that were in my year in school when I graduated, 3 of them have had kids. Like, kids are lovely, yay for children but like as my mother says “you worry about them for the rest of your life”. Can you not wait until you’re at least, I don’t know 26 before you start worrying about what your children did, are doing and will do. Especially as birth control costs practically nothing nowadays particularly compared to a year’s supply of nappies and formula! 

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30 July 2019
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^ Agreed. I find it so strange how people from my parent's and grandparent's generation used to get married between the ages of 18 and 22, and would often have one or more kids by the latter age. 

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I have my great-grandparent’s marriage certificate she was 19*, he was 23 when they got married in the mid-‘30’s.  

I literally cannot imagine being married at 19. She had 5 children in relatively quick succession after that as well- I cannot see myself having kids anytime soon or maybe even ever. 

They had a long and happy life together though, both lived until 92 and died within a few years of one another. One of the best ways to live life, eh?

 

*Her profession was listed as ‘spinster’, if she was considered a spinster at 19- there’s no hope for the rest of us, lads.

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AppleScruffJunior said
*Her profession was listed as ‘spinster’, if she was considered a spinster at 19- there’s no hope for the rest of us, lads.  

Ooh, really? I'm 19, can I apply to be a professional spinster now? ahdn_john_08_gif

It's important to keep in mind that Back In The Old Days you were less likely to live as long and it was harder to live alone because there was so much hard labour to do, so it was important to get married and have children and get your life together as soon as possible, as insurance for the future basically. Times have changed. Marrying young in The Modern Day and Age? You do you, mate, I plan on being a professional spinster for the rest of my life john-lennon-salute_gif

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My great-grandparents ended up becoming very successful business wise, if they hadn’t sold the bloody company I could be sitting on a hefty fortune right now.

I can’t tell you what they were in because it’s too obscure and you’d find out their identities in about 10 minutes if you know how to google but they had to go and have a load of children, grandchildren and great-grandchildren so anything received was minimal *shakes fist in air*.

 

In all honesty, I liked them very nice people for the few years I knew them. I used to go and catch fish with my brothers and feed it to their cats paul-mccartney-thumb_gif. Myself and the mothership visit their grave every time we’re in the area. I actually chose the g. grandmother’s name as my confirmation name when I turned 12.

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AppleScruffJunior said
Myself and the mothership visit their grave every time we’re in the area.

I'm not the only one who refers to their maternal unit as 'the mothership' a-hard-days-night-john-6john-lennon-salute_gif

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I suppose back in those days a middle class family in many countries could have one breadwinner and make enough for a nice house, several kids, a car and holidays a couple times a year. That just isn't financially viable for the millennial generation, and it's probably even less likely for us Gen-Z. I can see the rate of people having kids dropping even further. 

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^That was for a relatively brief period about the middle of the last century. Before that, for hundreds of years, they could have a breadwinner, a breadmaker, lots of children to contribute to the family labour, and enough food not to starve. Those were the days I was talking about.

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It was a terrible day when they stopped the 6 year olds from climbing up the chimneys to clean them. They were the perfect size, now I have to use a bloody brush 🙁 

 

I think the young marriage age also was a means of escapism for women. If you weren’t married you had to stay in the family home forever, looking after the house and caring for your parents in their old age. If you had a husband, you could move out and have some freedoms. 

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Though, of course, the drastically dropped birth rate is making most Western societies unsustainable, as there is no longer the tax intake or workforce to care for ageing populations, and those ageing populations whinge about immigration...

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The birth rate will drop everywhere eventually.  Once people get the point and realize they don't need to have a surplus of kids since they'll all survive to adulthood the birth rate decreases.

Even China now, that once had a restriction of one birth per family to keep the population from getting too big will soon be facing the same issues of not enough young people to support the aging population.

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Lots of care workers and nurses come from India... mccartney-shrug_01_gif

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I'm pretty sure the reason birth rates drop in developed countries is economic; the more developed a country is, the fewer children it tends to have. I suspect that's because in undeveloped countries people have more kids to contribute to the family income, and because in developed countries women often focus more on careers than having children. 

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I think it's great that birthrates are slowing down because that means overpopulation won't be a big problem in the future if this trend continues.

As for the age to start having kids, i like the classic conceive your first child on your honeymoon approach.

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^ You won’t be thankful for it if when you’re at retirement age, you won’t get any government pension/support that the elderly get such as free travel, medical visits, vouchers for heating during the winter etc. if there’s not enough young people around to pay income taxes for your government support.

Fortunately the Irish birth rates are still going well but Germany is going to have a massive problem in 20-30 years as couples keep having only one child instead of two+. To increase birth rates you need to provide heavily subsided/free childcare until school age and good support for pregnant and postpartum women (offering flexible hours if they return to work, working from home if their position allows it etc.). This costs a ton but it’s better than your pension system collapsing in on itself. 

The problem with overpopulation isn’t coming from ‘developed’ continents e.g Europe and North America but ‘developing’ continents such as Africa where lack of education, inequality of women and poor family planning leads African women to have 4.7 children on average compared to North America’s 1.9 and Europe’s 1.6.

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a-hard-days-night-ringo-8Agreed. 

The focus shouldn't just be on letting North American and European populations slump, it should be economically investing to help less advantaged countries develop in an environmentally friendly way. 

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