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Ahhh Girl
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6 December 2013 - 9.43pm

trcanberra said

LikeASir said
The great thing about vinyls is that it makes you appreciate the album as a whole - when you get a CD you can just cherry-pick the ones you like and skip the ones you don't. This is nigh impossible on a record because it's very dangerous to pick up/put down the needle in case it scratches the record. So essentially you have to trawl through from the beginning of the side to the end. This does suck if a side is very bad, but it does teach you patience and how to appreciate the large part of the artwork. You could say that without this flaw of the vinyl the whole album culture with bands like Pink Floyd wouldn't have caught on.

Indeed - but even though I now prefer CDs I NEVER skip a track.  I created a thread on this a while back and seem to be one of the few here who never skips.

 

You are well conditioned from your vinyl days.

 

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Hmmm I don't know about that.  I'd believe it when I see mine able to be fixed.  I have a core set of CD's that I bought about 15 years ago (in high school).  They are all so badly scratched going from car to house and back again, moved multiple times etc.  I kept them good for a while but it just didn't last forever.  I tried uploading some onto my mac recently and it just wouldn't have any of it.  I guess everyone is different with their CD's, I was never inclined to be that careful.

As far as the vinyl goes:  Most of the ones I own -save for about 20 that I have bought new or used on my own- are ones that belonged to my parents in the 60/70/80's.  For that reason, there is something more sacred about them, because they are all in good shape.  Some better than others, but all at least listenable.  The worst one is probably "The White Album" and it still plays, only skips in a couple of spots.

So maybe it was a generation thing.  Records were always just more precious to me.  One of the first things I remember was my dad teaching me how to properly hold a record.  heart

Not sure what you mean about a generation thing?  Maybe suggesting that 'older' people like LPs more and that I like CDs more because I am younger?  If that is it, I wish - couldn't be further from the truth if that is it - I was born in the 1950s.  If you had been as careful with your CDs as you were with your LPs (which I am), then surely they would all be in better nic than the LPs?

Anyway, it's great that we all have the media we like, and I notice that some of the newly released or re-released LPs are coming out on better grade material, though they cost correspondingly more as well.

Apart from the crackle thing I also had 2 other main reasons for switching; the kids came along and were a menace as far as bumping the player went, and the wife said I had to get rid of them to make room - so the other 2 reasons are moot :)

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6 December 2013 - 9.49pm

Ahhh Girl said

trcanberra said

LikeASir said
The great thing about vinyls is that it makes you appreciate the album as a whole - when you get a CD you can just cherry-pick the ones you like and skip the ones you don't. This is nigh impossible on a record because it's very dangerous to pick up/put down the needle in case it scratches the record. So essentially you have to trawl through from the beginning of the side to the end. This does suck if a side is very bad, but it does teach you patience and how to appreciate the large part of the artwork. You could say that without this flaw of the vinyl the whole album culture with bands like Pink Floyd wouldn't have caught on.

Indeed - but even though I now prefer CDs I NEVER skip a track.  I created a thread on this a while back and seem to be one of the few here who never skips.

 

You are well conditioned from your vinyl days.

 

I don't think that's it - I think I see an album as a complete presentation and like to listen to it as the artist intended.  Same as I wouldn't skip past parts of a book or fast forward through bits of a movie or skip a movement in a symphony.  I had a VERY expensive turntable back in the day and could place the needle down with precision in the groove between tracks, I still didn't ever do it.

 

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6 December 2013 - 10.20pm

trcanberra said

Ahhh Girl said

trcanberra said

LikeASir said
The great thing about vinyls is that it makes you appreciate the album as a whole - when you get a CD you can just cherry-pick the ones you like and skip the ones you don't. This is nigh impossible on a record because it's very dangerous to pick up/put down the needle in case it scratches the record. So essentially you have to trawl through from the beginning of the side to the end. This does suck if a side is very bad, but it does teach you patience and how to appreciate the large part of the artwork. You could say that without this flaw of the vinyl the whole album culture with bands like Pink Floyd wouldn't have caught on.

Indeed - but even though I now prefer CDs I NEVER skip a track.  I created a thread on this a while back and seem to be one of the few here who never skips.

 

You are well conditioned from your vinyl days.

 

I don't think that's it - I think I see an album as a complete presentation and like to listen to it as the artist intended.  Same as I wouldn't skip past parts of a book or fast forward through bits of a movie or skip a movement in a symphony.  I had a VERY expensive turntable back in the day and could place the needle down with precision in the groove between tracks, I still didn't ever do it.

 

If I'm listening to an album for the first time, I will listen to it straight through. No exceptions. After that, I do tend to skip over tracks I don't care for. Can't think of any non-Beatles album outside of Odelay or Get Your Wings that I don't skip certain tracks, to be honest.

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SatanHimself
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7 December 2013 - 12.19am

Maybe this thread should be called "Tell me about your music collecting habits".  It's a far more interesting topic.

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7 December 2013 - 1.19am

I had only listened to CDs and digital, but I just dug up some LPs from my dad's collection, and I am rapidly falling in love with vinyl now. I really never just put a CD in, but I am just listening to records nonstop. On my iPod, I'll generally listen all the way through an album the first time I get it, then I mix it around. On CD though, I rarely skip anything, except on The White Album where I refuse to listen to Piggies. In any case, I love vinyl, but I'm fine with CDs. Oh, and this topic is really derailed now, so I'll throw in on the original topic that I've really only been able to listen to older stuff, but I've found some bands, and only bands, that I like. One is Imagine Dragons. They're pretty good for a 2010s musical act.

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LongHairedLady
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7 December 2013 - 2.18am

trcanberra said
Not sure what you mean about a generation thing?  Maybe suggesting that 'older' people like LPs more and that I like CDs more because I am younger?  If that is it, I wish - couldn't be further from the truth if that is it - I was born in the 1950s.  If you had been as careful with your CDs as you were with your LPs (which I am), then surely they would all be in better nic than the LPs?

I meant maybe people were just more careful with records.  At least that's what I was taught.  I was pretty sure you are older than me so I wasn't really implying that you are in that "CD generation".

Yes, obviously the CD's would work better if I had cared for them more.  It was my age I guess, a teenager that just didn't give a shit.  The records are more precious to me because they belonged to my parents.  I bought the CD's myself mostly so I didn't have as much of a connection in that way.  

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7 December 2013 - 2.20am

LikeASir said
The great thing about vinyls is that it makes you appreciate the album as a whole - when you get a CD you can just cherry-pick the ones you like and skip the ones you don't. This is nigh impossible on a record because it's very dangerous to pick up/put down the needle in case it scratches the record. So essentially you have to trawl through from the beginning of the side to the end. This does suck if a side is very bad, but it does teach you patience and how to appreciate the large part of the artwork. You could say that without this flaw of the vinyl the whole album culture with bands like Pink Floyd wouldn't have caught on.

This defiantly applies to me.  There are albums I bought on vinyl that I appreciated way more after listening to them.  A good example is Red Rose Speedway by Wings.  I had it on my iTunes for a while, and then I bought the vinyl.  I had barely paid attention to it before that.  It is now my favourite Wings album, hands down.

"Please don't bring your banjo back, I know where it's been..  I wasn't hardly gone a day, when it became the scene..  Banjos!  Banjos!  All the time, I can't forget that tune..  and if I ever see another banjo, I'm going out and buy a big balloon!"

 

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7 December 2013 - 6.10pm

I have found myself in the position of ''shit what do I have to listen to? Almost everything new is crap''. Especially since I'm so obsessed with the Beatles. I've been listening to a lot of 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s, but a lot of what came out in the last few years, I just became very bored with. There is some good music that I still listen to, of course there is good music that's also new, but I don't know..it seems harder to find music I really like and easier to deem it as crap.

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7 December 2013 - 6.35pm

I got some Judy Garland cd out of the library today, shows where i am with the current music scene. Simply does not interest me and the what they play on the radio is utter garbage.

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trcanberra
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7 December 2013 - 9.52pm

meanmistermustard said
I got some Judy Garland cd out of the library today, shows where i am with the current music scene. Simply does not interest me and the what they play on the radio is utter garbage.

Interesting, I have just been listening to an amazing Fred Astaire CD :)

 

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7 December 2013 - 11.06pm

trcanberra said

meanmistermustard said
I got some Judy Garland cd out of the library today, shows where i am with the current music scene. Simply does not interest me and the what they play on the radio is utter garbage.

Interesting, I have just been listening to an amazing Fred Astaire CD :)

 

That would do me. The more i hear this type of recording the more i want to hear. I'm trying to track down a Frank Sinatra collection from the library to try it out but no luck. 

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19 January 2014 - 9.44pm

I like some new music.  I mean, my favorite decade in music is the 1960's, but I can find music I like in every decade from the 1930's onward.  I'm sure that if I did more digging, I could find earlier music that I liked.

Personally, I don't like it when people say "I only like music from 1999/1980/1970/etc. and before."  On the flip side of that coin, I don't like it when people say "I don't like old music."  Whether or not you like music should not be determined by when it's made, but by what it's content is.

I've seen a few posts here that have said something along the lines of "I can't listen to the radio."  Well, I'll admit that I'm not big on today's mainstream music scene, but that's just because I can't stand how uncreative most mainstream music is these days.  I don't think today's mainstream music is particularly terrible, I just think that it's pretty bland and unimaginative.

I just try to keep in mind that no matter how much music I hear that I dislike, there's a ton of good music out there that I haven't even heard of.

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19 January 2014 - 9.56pm

I'm another one who doesn't care to skip tracks on albums in any format. It might come from my early years listening to my parents' records, dedication to bands I've actually bothered collecting, or just laziness.

On the topic of new music... yeah, there's good stuff out there, but I have trouble thinking of anything that has moved me enough to call myself a fan. For that very reason I've been digging into older music lately. There are enough hidden gems that I've either never heard of or never got a chance to appreciate that it's taking up a lot of my time these days. I try to force myself to listen to the radio, but rock stations are regurgitating the same stuff they've been playing since the late 90s, and top 40 stations have never been my cup of tea. Half the time I just end up switching to the classical station and calling it a day.

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19 January 2014 - 10.01pm

4or5Magicians said
I'm another one who doesn't care to skip tracks on albums in any format.

For the most part, me too.  Unless I really don't like a song.

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19 January 2014 - 10.09pm

I can't listen to new bands/music really, every now and then I give it a try but it's very difficult when you've become so accustomed to listening to The Beatles for so long.  Most "artists" nowadays don't even play any instruments, or even hire someone who does for that matter, it's mostly computer generated and when you do come across people who can actually play, the sound is so heavily processed that it's hard to even tell if they actually are.  The drums in particular is what gets me, they put a stereo mic on every drum to create separation so they can apply this dynamic range to everything and it comes out sounding more like a drum machine than a real drummer.  The best drum sounds come from two room microphones where a snare drum doesn't sound like it's bigger than the bass drum, you don't need 16 tracks for one drummer, it's nonsense, the industry severely needs a reboot...:-)

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20 January 2014 - 1.17am

I'm still buying new stuff….. I have to admit it's often new stuff from old favorites from the 60's onwards that are still working……Sting, Knopfler, Michael, Taylor, Simon, Clapton and the like.

Hardly 'new' but 'Keith Urban' is good and I like very much the album, "Come On" by Mary Chapin Carpenter.

 

But my favorite album of all time. A personal choice remember is not a Beatle one. 'Change Everything' by Del Amitri. would just beat 'Hard Days Night' as my desert island disc. Sacrilege in the context of the Beatles Bible I know and I accept my looming excommunication.  

 

 

 

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Atlas said
I'm still buying new stuff….. I have to admit it's often new stuff from old favorites from the 60's onwards that are still working……Sting, Knopfler, Michael, Taylor, Simon, Clapton and the like.

Hardly 'new' but 'Keith Urban' is good and I like very much the album, "Come On" by Mary Chapin Carpenter.

 

But my favorite album of all time. A personal choice remember is not a Beatle one. 'Change Everything' by Del Amitri. would just beat 'Hard Days Night' as my desert island disc. Sacrilege in the context of the Beatles Bible I know and I accept my looming excommunication.  

 
I'm the same way. I like artists that have been out there (haha Paul McCartney tour reference) for a while who come up with new projects. There is just something about older music...

I think it's the rawness of it and I'm quite the nostalgic person so old music sends me into a trance. I like the history behind the music, you know? But I agree with people talking about Coldplay. I like some of their music and I heard their live concerts are really cool. 
 

 

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30 January 2014 - 4.19am

I was just saying on another thread the same thing. Contemporary music for the most part leaves me cold and I think a lot of that has to do with modern recording techniques.

That being said, there is good stuff out there for sure but it's mostly from people who know their roots. Here's some really good examples:

Sharon Jones & The Dap Kings: 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....w3FERP5djE

Baby Charles: 

The Dirtbombs: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....BqDDRDMz1s

The Explorers Club: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....FP8aGK4K8M

And a few songs from Foxygen are good: 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....PmAO4xpQcE

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There still is plenty of really good music out there. You just have to look harder as you won't find it on the radio/in the charts.

Josh Ritter, Laura Marling, Dan Mangan, Marcus Foster, Ben Howard, Johnny Flynn, George Ezra ... just to name a few (that I like anyway^^).

 

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