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Has anyone written their own songs?
22 May 2014
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Welcome Doctor Robert ! Please introduce yourself to the forum here: https://www.beatlesbible.com/f…..9/#p117981

Edit: I just listened to the beginnings of a few, and I love the guitar. Ill be sure to listen to them fully later.

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Thank you for the welcome Mr. Kite :)

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Second Turn Around is a good listen @Doctor Robert   (its the only one i’ve heard so far). Like Mr Kite the guitar is great sounding, you’re voice reminds me of someone but cant think who.

 

Thanks @Mr. Kite for the suggestions of where folk can upload music to.

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Thanks to Mr. Kite and Doctor Robert

Doctor Robert , thanks for your link.  The first song, Tomorrow, has a definite Neil Diamond vibe to it.  The singer has a nice baritone dipping down low.  I’ll have a listen to the rest when I can find time later. 

I’m still plagued by three impediments to getting my songwriting oeuvre recorded and ready to be listened to:

1) bad singing days where my voice just isn’t up to snuff, which I often cannot predict

2) a poor recording system which only augments the problem of #1

3) not enough time in a day

But I’ll keep plugging away.

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Good luck, FP. I have a Blue Snowball microphone, it sounds great recording instruments and vocals and was $50. Might be a good investment.

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My only problem with writing songs is the fact that I rarely finish any off, for a multitude of reasons – lack of motivation, dislike of the song, distraction, laziness, etc.

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Oh dear. Because this has been a very busy week (apart of my birthday and an aunt’s birthday) due to school commitments, I have laid only one rhythm guitar after numerous mistakes and finding what pattern I wanted to play (Take 24). But now, I have some free time before getting into school duties again on Monday, so I’ll finish my demo for ”If I’m Gone” song and publish it later today or tomorrow. But if it sounds convincing enough, I’ll make it the definitive version. Plus, I have another song I want to give to a friend for her birthday (May 25th), ”Beautiful”.

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@TheOneBeatle Rhythm tracks are really annoying especially if you want your music to be really good. Good luck with the other song, cuz you only have a few days!

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Mr. Kite said

@TheOneBeatle Rhythm tracks are really annoying especially if you want your music to be really good. Good luck with the other song, cuz you only have a few days!

I know Mr. Kite! I’m trying to have barely noticeable to zero errors, and yeah, I’ll have to get the other song done too, but I still don’t have the phrasing or a chord progression for that one yet!; And well, for the first song, the worst thing is that, I want to duplicate the backing track by recording a second rhythm guitar, but because I recorded that bit last Saturday, I forgot the pattern and I have to hear it again to avoid making it different in anyway to the first one. For the moment, I only have in mind recording two rhythm guitars, lead guitar (maybe one or two), piano, bass, drums and two vocal tracks (manual double-tracking), and some other instrument for the solo section, probably a Melodion, though everything is being recorded via keyboard waiting that’ll sound convincing.

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Mr. Kite said

@TheOneBeatle Rhythm tracks are really annoying especially if you want your music to be really good. Good luck with the other song, cuz you only have a few days!

I know Mr. Kite! I’m trying to have barely noticeable to zero errors, and yeah, I’ll have to get the other song done too, but I still don’t have the phrasing or a chord progression for that one yet!; And well, for the first song, the worst thing is that, I want to duplicate the backing track by recording a second rhythm guitar, but because I recorded that bit last Saturday, I forgot the pattern and I have to hear it again to avoid making it different in anyway to the first one. For the moment, I only have in mind recording two rhythm guitars, lead guitar (maybe one or two), piano, bass, drums and two vocal tracks (manual double-tracking), and some other instrument for the solo section, probably a Melodion, though everything is being recorded via keyboard waiting that’ll sound convincing.

Sounds like a lot of work. Hope you figure out the pattern soon. And which instruments being the keyboard? Piano, bass, drums?

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Mr. Kite said

Sounds like a lot of work. Hope you figure out the pattern soon. And which instruments being the keyboard? Piano, bass, drums?

All of them actually, as I don’t have enough microphones to capture the drums, I can’t play bass yet, I’m way too slow in guitar, and while I can play piano and I actually have one at home, the really good sounding pianos are on the school and in both cases of my home piano and school pianos, I would need more than an hour to get everything ready and to record at least an attempt.

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The guitar is keyboard too?

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Yes, though I’m really trying to make it sound not that unauthentic. That’s why I consider it as a demo until I post it and see the response.

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TheOneBeatleManiac said

Yes, though I’m really trying to make it sound not that unauthentic. That’s why I consider it as a demo until I post it and see the response.

Well can’t wait… Seems very interesting.

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Many years ago, I went through a long phase (lasting several years) in which I used this small rinky-dink keyboard that had a feature called “sample” which could sample any sound you made and play it back in a loop (or other ways, like with echo sounds).

Given what has developed in the last couple of decades, I realize this sounds ridiculously low tech.  But I spent literally many dozens of hours (maybe hundreds) creating loops of sound, then recording over that once or twice — not with a multi-tracking system, but just with a cassette player I had that allowed for taping over. 

Any of the 30 keys on this little keyboard would play back the sound, at different registers depending on the key.  If the key was lower, it would also take longer for the loop, and shorter if the key was higher.  When you held down two keys simultaneously playing a loop, an octave apart, the higher key would be exactly twice as fast, creating interesting dovetailing patterns of sound (similarly a 5th apart, etc.).  Sometimes I used actual clothespins to clip onto like three keys so that the tripartite loop would keep playing, since it was too tedious to just hold the keys down with my fingers for like six minutes.

I created dozens of “songs” this way — all instrumentals, some sounding relatively musical, others sounding very avantgarde and experimental.  For example, one “song” I created was based simply on a sample of a woman on the radio saying “William Kendrick”.  Then I held down one key, then held down successively other keys immediately above or below (very close and clustered, only a half or whole step apart), until like five keys were held down.  The result of five different versions of the woman saying “William Kendrick” at slightly different registers and speeds, over and over, over time created a fascinating effect, sounding less like a human speaking, and more like weird electronic sounds.

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Listening to the Anthology 3 version of Hey Jude , Paul sings two lines:

When I was a robber in Boston Place,

You gathered round me with your fine embrace.

Would anybody be interested in me turning that into a full song? I’m writing a 1966-style song called Revolver so it’d be really nice to do this one too.

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Oh, Lord. I’m still stuck with the song on the second rhythm track and a lead guitar despite spending almost the whole day recording in total 43 takes, and due to keep flubbing some chord changes or the tempo, I still can’t bring a usable track!

I’m re-doing the first rhythm track because the one I marked as best before (Take 24) has some noticeable mistakes. I just pray that I can finish this one cos’ the fun is drying out. Going for Take 67. a-hard-days-night-ringo-14

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MrMoonlight said
Listening to the Anthology 3 version of Hey Jude , Paul sings two lines:

When I was a robber in Boston Place,

You gathered round me with your fine embrace.

Would anybody be interested in me turning that into a full song? I’m writing a 1966-style song called Revolver so it’d be really nice to do this one too.

I’d love to hear it. I was messing about on the guitar and I found that those lines worked quite nicely with G, D and Em

G                              D        Em

When I was a robber in boston place

G                                           D          Em

you gathered round me with your fine embrace

"White Album - My joint-fave Beatles album along with Revolver. They show the two sides of Beatles. Revolver's very controlled - even though it's also very innovative. The White Album's playful and almost ramshackle. It's like a scrapbook kept by a genius. Fantastic stuff."

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Funny Paper, The Beatles used to use an instrument called a Mellotron I think, it pretty much played loops. It was used in Strawberry Fields most notably. The Beatles are the ones who invented loops and such. I purchased Recording The Beatles from Curvebender books. Tons and tons of useful information contained in that tomb.

To those that did, thanks for giving a listen to our music. It’s really not that hard to make music. It is hard to get down on tape (or whatever) what you want to hear. The Beatles employed many tricks and came up with many breakthroughs for the recording of music that lead directly to where we are today.  

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MrMoonlight said
Listening to the Anthology 3 version of Hey Jude , Paul sings two lines:

When I was a robber in Boston Place,

You gathered round me with your fine embrace.

Would anybody be interested in me turning that into a full song? I’m writing a 1966-style song called Revolver so it’d be really nice to do this one too.

Because I got it in my head of Paul singing it, I heard a piano melody there, sort of sparse and up tempo. Obviously can’t play piano, so I had a strum and came up with this:

 

D                                Dsus4

When I was a robber in Boston Place,

C                                               G

You gathered round me with your fine embrace.

D                                     Dsus4

Had to look back and seen where I’ve come,

C                                              Am         G

Thought I’d seen and thought of everyone, everyone.

                                                             (Goes into this last “everyone” quickly as to hold G for a full bar)

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