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The Guitar Tips Thread for Players (Beatles or otherwise; tutorials, videos, suggestions, techniques)
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I prefer to use a pick rather than finger pick. Finger picking sounds too weak for me (if you listen to the solos of Sultans of Swing, you'll see what I mean.) I also think there's a lot more you can do with a pick than you can do with your fingers. 

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I use a pick, and I play bass. When I've played guitar, I use a pick as well.

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I'm a solid lead guitarist, and I never use a pick. There's nothing that can be done with a pick that can't be done finger style, plus you can do so much more finger style. I go back and forth between playing like a bassist and playing like a classical guitarist, but it works for me. 

I play a Gretsch (semi-hollow body) , and have never owned another electric guitar, so I have not really tested how my technique would work on a solid body, except for occasionally playing a Strat when I am hanging around a guitar shop

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I admire finger-style, partly because it looks and sounds much more complicated, and partly because it's a challenge for me. I can only fingerpick my way through a rough number of twenty songs, and it is not always a perfect sound. Although it's only easy songs I can play finger-style such as Tears in Heaven, Blackbird , Misguided Ghosts etc. as well as some improvisations, it is a style I prefer to listen to. Whenever I ask my dad to play something for me, it is always a finger-style song. I tend to use a pick mostly, though, because it's easier to strum and sing, and it's better whilst playing with large groups.

I have a cheap, old acoustic guitar which is perfectly preserved. I can't even remember it's name. All I know is that out of thirty people who have played on it, at least twenty-seven have asked to buy it. The sound it produces is just incredible and I wouldn't trade it for any other guitar in the world. We've got a semi-acoustic Washburn which is difficult to play on, as well as an ancient guitar with plastic strings. My dad's electric guitar is a Fender and I barely ever play it. All I need is my old, acoustic guitar (and love, of course).

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Call me inexperienced, but how are you meant to get that distorted, long sound for an electric guitar (see most guitar solos, i.e. WMGGW). I honestly have no idea how to get that lead sound - it just seems to last as long as a normal pluck. I don't get it.

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Call me inexperienced, but how are you meant to get that distorted, long sound for an electric guitar (see most guitar solos, i.e. WMGGW). I honestly have no idea how to get that lead sound - it just seems to last as long as a normal pluck. I don't get it.

All I know is that Carlos Santana used to cultivate a sustained note by moving close to his amp to combine feedback with his note.

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Call me inexperienced, but how are you meant to get that distorted, long sound for an electric guitar (see most guitar solos, i.e. WMGGW). I honestly have no idea how to get that lead sound - it just seems to last as long as a normal pluck. I don't get it.

To sustain a note you need vibrato.

I found a video for you, this'll teach you how, or the beginning will just give you an example of what I mean if you don't want to watch it all.

That feedback method might work, but it'd have to be up really loud. Vibrato is probably what's used on WMGGW and will work without it up high.

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Call me inexperienced, but how are you meant to get that distorted, long sound for an electric guitar (see most guitar solos, i.e. WMGGW). I honestly have no idea how to get that lead sound - it just seems to last as long as a normal pluck. I don't get it.

To sustain a note you need vibrato.

I found a video for you, this'll teach you how, or the beginning will just give you an example of what I mean if you don't want to watch it all.

That feedback method might work, but it'd have to be up really loud. Vibrato is probably what's used on WMGGW and will work without it up high.

Brilliant, thanks! I've got most of it worked out now anyway after messing with gain and tone, although I'll need to practice! Prince's solo on that WMGGW I posted yesterday has inspired me.

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Call me inexperienced, but how are you meant to get that distorted, long sound for an electric guitar (see most guitar solos, i.e. WMGGW). I honestly have no idea how to get that lead sound - it just seems to last as long as a normal pluck. I don't get it.

it would be easier to diagnose the problem if you could make a quick video of you playing so that we/i can see it. There could be half a dozen things that are causing the problem, but it's got to have something to do with left hand technique. Here's something that might help, and you should make sure to do this anyway- Keep your left hand parallel to the neck, rather than your pinky pointing away from it. IMG_0970.JPGImage Enlarger

like this 

Thats my hand by the way and my guitar and my left shoulder featured in the picture by the way 

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Mimi said

MrMoonlight said
Call me inexperienced, but how are you meant to get that distorted, long sound for an electric guitar (see most guitar solos, i.e. WMGGW). I honestly have no idea how to get that lead sound - it just seems to last as long as a normal pluck. I don't get it.

it would be easier to diagnose the problem if you could make a quick video of you playing so that we/i can see it. There could be half a dozen things that are causing the problem, but it's got to have something to do with left hand technique. Here's something that might help, and you should make sure to do this anyway- Keep your left hand parallel to the neck, rather than your pinky pointing away from it. IMG_0970.JPGImage Enlarger

like this 

Thats my hand by the way and my guitar and my left shoulder featured in the picture by the way 

Yeah, yeah, I get it. I think my biggest problem was the amp, if I'm honest, but I think what you've said'll definitely help if I take note!

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MrMoonlight said

Mr. Kite said

MrMoonlight said

Call me inexperienced, but how are you meant to get that distorted, long sound for an electric guitar (see most guitar solos, i.e. WMGGW). I honestly have no idea how to get that lead sound - it just seems to last as long as a normal pluck. I don't get it.

To sustain a note you need vibrato.

I found a video for you, this'll teach you how, or the beginning will just give you an example of what I mean if you don't want to watch it all.

That feedback method might work, but it'd have to be up really loud. Vibrato is probably what's used on WMGGW and will work without it up high.

Brilliant, thanks! I've got most of it worked out now anyway after messing with gain and tone, although I'll need to practice! Prince's solo on that WMGGW I posted yesterday has inspired me.

That was pretty amazing. I'm just curious as to where his guitar disappeared to.

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@Mimi, quick question since you're "in the know", as it were - would you recommend a Gretsch? I want a new guitar for my birthday in December (yeah it's a while away but at least the wait will be excruciating exciting), and I immediately thought of you. Of course, it depends on the type - what sort do you have, and would you recommend it?

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@Mimi, quick question since you're "in the know", as it were - would you recommend a Gretsch? I want a new guitar for my birthday in December (yeah it's a while away but at least the wait will be excruciating exciting), and I immediately thought of you. Of course, it depends on the type - what sort do you have, and would you recommend it?

YES times a million!! If your going for that warm, rockabilly sound, than you definitely want a Gretsch. There's a good model that's popular right now, an "electromatic". That's the kind I have. It's a more affordable and still looks and sounds great. If you do get a Gretsch, you should play it with a tube amp. Either a Vox or a Fender. I have a fender blues junior amp, and I don't think it was too expensive. 

Part of it depends on just personal preference. Some guitars, like a Strat, are really easy to play, but a Gretsch fights back a little more. I personally like that quality in a guitar, but you may not. I think you should go to a guitar shop and play some different types of guitars there so you know what you like. In the US, you can't always count on a guitar shop selling Gretsch guitars. If that's the case, just try playing any semi-hollow body electric guitar. 

Get a Gretsch! I'm sure George would tell you the same thing!ahdn_george_05

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That settles it - I'm getting a white and gold Gretsch (as well as that Hofner bass)! I'll be sure to credit you when I'm famous - maybe I'll let you perform on an album a-hard-days-night-george-10

But seriously though, I'm excited that I'm getting them, but I'm also really anxious because I have to wait for Christmas, going through exams and schoolwork and more anxiety and ughhhhhhhhh

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This would be an "otherwise" -- for finger-picking acoustic guitar.  I learned this little trick from listening to James Taylor over the years.  It can help in creating chord changes for a song you may be writing.  Basically, it's a transition chord from A (or A7) to Bm7 -- it looks just like A7 but it has a Bb bass. 

When I finger the A chord I use fingers 4-3-2 (numbering fingers 1-4 not counting the thumb -- don't worry, I'm not a Simpsons cartoonblue-meaniewith only four fingers), then when I want to do the transition chord, I lift up finger 3 and press on the Bb note (on the A bass string, of course) with my index finger (finger 1); then a transition to the Bm7 chord with a little deft adjustment of my hand. 

I probably never would have thought of bassing A7 with a Bb note on my own (that would be too dissonant, right?). 

His "Shower the People" uses this in the context of a nice overall chord change:

A -

A7/Bb -

Bm7 -

A -

G -

D/F# -

Em7 - A7

(then continues a long pattern of Em7 to A7 -- what I have called "Treat chords").

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I'm honored!

I'm hoping to get a Hofner for my birthday which is in October. I got my Gretsch for my last birthday, and I'd be good at bass I think, I just really need to own a good one. Maybe my parents will agree that a nice Hofner is a good way to celebrate my sixteenth.

This is more or less what my Gretsch looks like, but mine is a little darker, perhaps due to the incessant poloshing it receives. a-hard-days-night-george-10

http://altomusic.com/gretsch-g.....nge-finish

I assume you have been playing with a pick? I recently started playing with a pick in addition to finger style. It's not very hard but certainly takes some getting used to. But not many people can do both so at least I have bragging rights in that regard. 

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Mimi said

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That settles it - I'm getting a white and gold Gretsch (as well as that Hofner bass)! I'll be sure to credit you when I'm famous - maybe I'll let you perform on an album a-hard-days-night-george-10

But seriously though, I'm excited that I'm getting them, but I'm also really anxious because I have to wait for Christmas, going through exams and schoolwork and more anxiety and ughhhhhhhhh

I'm honored! 

I'm hoping to get a Hofner for my birthday which is in October. I got my Gretsch for my last birthday, and I'd be good at bass I think, I just really need to own a good one. Maybe my parents will agree that a nice Hofner is a good way to celebrate my sixteenth. 

Don't you mean that you're... wait for it... Hofnered?! a-hard-days-night-george-10 a-hard-days-night-george-10 a-hard-days-night-george-10 a-hard-days-night-george-10 oh god i crack myself up

Happy early birthday! My parents are pitching in for my guitar for Christmas/birthday-happy (my birthday's five days after Christmas but I don't know which one I'm actually getting it/them on. All I have to do is wait patiently... which is a harder task than seems, especially with waiting through school and exams and it makes me really anxious knowing how long I have to wait - six months is a hell of a long time. My extended family are all pitching in for the bass, which I'm equally excited for; it's a beautiful instrument and I know many people would be very jealous. I'd have the full ensemble in the space of a year - maybe I'll have a band by then. I'm alright at bass so far; my only one has a missing lowest string but it's good to practice on.

Seriously though, in terms of being honored - you've not only helped me with guitar, but you've given me confidence in my singing, which is something I've never liked in terms of myself, so thank you for both of those! :D

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Mimi said

MrMoonlight said

That settles it - I'm getting a white and gold Gretsch (as well as that Hofner bass)! I'll be sure to credit you when I'm famous - maybe I'll let you perform on an album a-hard-days-night-george-10

But seriously though, I'm excited that I'm getting them, but I'm also really anxious because I have to wait for Christmas, going through exams and schoolwork and more anxiety and ughhhhhhhhh

I'm honored! 

I'm hoping to get a Hofner for my birthday which is in October. I got my Gretsch for my last birthday, and I'd be good at bass I think, I just really need to own a good one. Maybe my parents will agree that a nice Hofner is a good way to celebrate my sixteenth. 

Don't you mean that you're... wait for it... Hofnered?! a-hard-days-night-george-10 a-hard-days-night-george-10 a-hard-days-night-george-10 a-hard-days-night-george-10 oh god i crack myself up

Happy early birthday! My parents are pitching in for my guitar for Christmas/birthday-happy (my birthday's five days after Christmas but I don't know which one I'm actually getting it/them on. All I have to do is wait patiently... which is a harder task than seems, especially with waiting through school and exams and it makes me really anxious knowing how long I have to wait - six months is a hell of a long time. My extended family are all pitching in for the bass, which I'm equally excited for; it's a beautiful instrument and I know many people would be very jealous. I'd have the full ensemble in the space of a year - maybe I'll have a band by then. I'm alright at bass so far; my only one has a missing lowest string but it's good to practice on.

Seriously though, in terms of being honored - you've not only helped me with guitar, but you've given me confidence in my singing, which is something I've never liked in terms of myself, so thank you for both of those! :D

*desperately tries to think of a Gretsch-related pun* 

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You'll think of a really Gretsch one soon enough.

That's a really nice guitar. I'm trying to get one in white and gold (like that picture you used). Yours looks exactly like the type I want (but in orange).

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I bet you could find that. The sexy add is using a "white falcon" model, which is more expensive. But you could probably find those colors in a more affordable model. 

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