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Gangnam Style & Bieber's "Baby"
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smoledman
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7 January 2013 - 8.26am

Combined have a total of 1.9 billion Youtube views. Does this signal the end of everything?

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bikelock28
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7 January 2013 - 9.27am

*shrugs* Not really, neither of them are particuarlarly bad songs (in my opinion). They'll be forgotten about soon enough.

"I don't think we were actually swimming, as it were, with shirts on, 'cos we always wear overcoats when we're swimming,"-

George Harrison, Australia, June 1964

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meanmistermustard

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7 January 2013 - 1.41pm

Have been thru Mr Blobby being number 1, Gareth Gates being successful and One Direction winning a video award. We have a song called One Pound Fish which people bought and who can forget Crazy Frog (the memory wipe sadly never worked). If the end was coming surely any of these would have signalled it. 

"I told you everything I could about me, Told you everything I could" ('Before Believing' - Emmylou Harris) 

"Don't make your love suffer insecurities; Trade the baggage of "self" to set another one free" ('Paper Skin' - Kendall Payne)

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SatanHimself
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7 January 2013 - 1.59pm

I will never understand the British music charts.  Ever.  

But even if you look at the most recent list of all-time best-selling CDs, you'll see that musical taste means nothing.  Here's the most recent Soundscan chart for just the U.S.:

1. Metallica, Metallica (akaThe Black Album) (15,845,000)
2. Shania Twain, Come On Over (15,524,000)
3. Alanis Morissette, Jagged Little Pill (14,806,000)
4. Backstreet BoysMillennium (12,209,000)
5. The Beatles, 1 (12,139,000)
6. Soundtrack,  The Bodyguard (12,056,000)
7. Santana,  Supernatural (11,732,000)
8. Creed, Human Clay (11,632,000)
9. Bob Marley & The Wailers, Legend (11,220,000)
10. NSync, No Strings Attached (11,137,000)

 

Now ask yourself...  How many of those CDs are still owned by the people who purchased them?  How many are consistent sales versus sales that happened at the time of release?  Since I know that Bob Marley has just entered the top 10, it's safe to say that 'Legend' is a consistent seller.  I'd say the same goes for Metallica and definitely the Beatles.

Shania probably still gets some sales here and there and Whitney Houston cacking off probably helped 'The Bodyguard'.

But Creed?  Santana? BB?  NSync?  Probably 90% of their sales were within the first 2 years of their release, and you can literally find stacks of those albums in the overstock bins of every used record store.

Hell, "Jagged Little Pill" was at one time the most traded-in disc of all time.  Most stores won't even take them anymore.

What I'm getting at is that there have always been flash-in-the-pan artists who get enormously popular and then quickly go away.  Ignore them, and enjoy the artists with real staying power.

E is for 'Ergent'.

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meanmistermustard

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7 January 2013 - 2.23pm

Adele has the most traded cd from Christmas Day this year, bought as a gift but unwanted and so gotten out of the homes as quickly as possible in exchange for cash. One Direction are also in the list, i can see the horror in some 13 year olds face when opening their gift and seeing that crap. Same with books. The Da Vinci Code is one of the biggest sellers ever but go into a second hand shop and youll find 17 copies

To be fair to Adele her albums have sold skiploads and are still doing so - not that i can stand her music.

"I told you everything I could about me, Told you everything I could" ('Before Believing' - Emmylou Harris) 

"Don't make your love suffer insecurities; Trade the baggage of "self" to set another one free" ('Paper Skin' - Kendall Payne)

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Ron Nasty
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7 January 2013 - 4.33pm

I always liked Bill Hicks' line about music in the charts in the early 90s. "When was mediocrity a good example for your children?"

"I only said we were bigger than Rod... and now there's all this!" Ron Nasty

smoledman
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7 January 2013 - 5.01pm

I find it weird that the music I like the best is often sold in the 100s of copies.

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Egroeg Evoli
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7 January 2013 - 9.59pm

SatanHimself said
1. Metallica, Metallica (akaThe Black Album) (15,845,000)

Hey, that's a Beatles reference, isn't it?
 

 

Also known as Egg-Rock, Egg-Roll, E-George, Eggy, Ravioli, Eggroll Eggrolli...

~witty quote~

thewordislove94
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7 January 2013 - 10.25pm

smoledman said
Combined have a total of 1.9 billion Youtube views. Does this signal the end of everything?

 

If everything means the end of the world, then no. If it means the end of good modern music, then maybe. What it does end is my tolerance for Justin Bieber and my sanity.

"The world is a very serious and, at times, very sad place - but at other times it is all such a joke."-George Harrison

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fabfouremily
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8 January 2013 - 6.03pm

It´s when I look at the majority of modern music that I wonder if there will ever be a revival of quality music. Will, one day, there be good, talented and not entirely money and publicity-driven artists that create good music that will last? Because I feel, quite frankly, a bit depressed about the whole music industry as it is today - there´s nothing, no-one, come about  recently who I feel is worthy of my money, worthy of gaining international stardom, and that, to me, is really quite sad.

 

Moving along in our God given ways, safety is sat by the fire/Sanctuary from these feverish smiles, left with a mark on the door.

(Passover - I. Curtis)

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Gerard
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10 January 2013 - 9.25am

I am waiting for the day that the next generation comes and would tell my generation that our music is crap.

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meanmistermustard

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10 January 2013 - 10.48am

Music goes in cycles. Something will come that will break the tedium of crap that is shoved down our throats. Music was pretty dreary before The Beatles came along so there is always hope. The same can be said when Oasis broke thru in the 90's, there were good bands and artists around but the scene overall was dull, the same as now.

Lets not forget that Ken Dodd sold over a million copies of Happiness in 1965.

And there were people in the 60's shaking their heads at the arrival of the Beatles and the Stones and the Kinks and the Who what with all the long hair and noisy instruments and attitude and shreiking girls who needed to be controlled by a firm hand by their parents. Music wasnt like it was in the good old days when men wore their hair short and gently crooned about their [lost] love over the waters and women stayed in the kitchen and only came out to serve dinner and act in a dignified manner before heading over to the piano and singing a nice soft ballad to serenade their husband. This surely must be the end!

"I told you everything I could about me, Told you everything I could" ('Before Believing' - Emmylou Harris) 

"Don't make your love suffer insecurities; Trade the baggage of "self" to set another one free" ('Paper Skin' - Kendall Payne)

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bikelock28
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10 January 2013 - 4.34pm

And remember that the Beatles were once dismissed as "75% publicity, 20% haircut, and 5% lilting lament,"....not too dissimilar to how we ould describe Bieber/ One Direction/any of the endless Youtube-discovered/ Simon Cowell-manufactured artists around these days.

As for Gangnam Style that's 5% publicity, 95% silly dance.

"I don't think we were actually swimming, as it were, with shirts on, 'cos we always wear overcoats when we're swimming,"-

George Harrison, Australia, June 1964

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Zig
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10 January 2013 - 10.01pm

Gerell said
I am waiting for the day that the next generation comes and would tell my generation that our music is crap.

It happens to just about every generation.

The cool thing with me is that I love the music my parents loved when they were young. It just so happens that the acts they liked (Eddie Cochran, Chuck Berry, Buddy Holly, Bill Haley, Fats Domino, etc...) were a huge influence on my favorite band. Mom is the same age as Ringo, Dad is only 2 years older.

What's not to love?  heart

To the fountain of perpetual mirth, Let it roll for all its worth.

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BluemeanAl
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11 January 2013 - 1.37pm

I think that I'm snakebit trying to post a reply to this topic.  Two different responses that I've written on two different days kind of vanished into the ether before I could post...so one more try?

It's pretty easy to get depressed about the state of popular music because, yes, 99% of what's popular now (and this has been true for a very long time) is really bad.  Or at least I think it is, given that I actually listen to so little of it.  I wouldn't know a Bieber song if I heard it, and I've seen about 10 seconds of the Gangnam dance but not really heard the music. 

But I'm not some fogey living with my old records with his head buried in the sand.  Rather, (and this seems a bit disingenuous to say in a forum devoted to the highly-popular and spectacularly excellent Beatles), I completely ignore whatever is popular.  Why waste your time on it?

There is great new music being made each and every year, you just need to know what you like and seek it out.

Listening the Jason Isbell and the 400 Unit the other day, a song called "Codeine," I thought to myself, "This song should be a hit.  How can it not be a hit?  Oh to live in a universe where this kind of music is popular."  But who cares?  As long as the music is being made and I have the means to find it, I can handle living in a universe where Bieber is popular and Isbell drives around the country in a junky van to get to gigs where 500 or 1000 people might show up.  (Actually, THAT's the part that bothers me:  the fact that so much crap gets rewarded with fame and fortune while a great many of the excellent artists out there are just trying to pay their bills.)

So don't despair, do something about it.  Look for the good stuff and support your favorite artists!

It's gotta be rock and roll music if you wanna dance with me

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