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10 December 2014
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So, I'm a fan of a club no one here knows, it's called Peñarol, it was a great team back in the 60s and it's the oldest club in the country. It's also one of the two biggest teams in Uruguay though we are playing horrible. There's a player who is always ill, it was bought for like 1 million dolars (here that's a lot) and all the fans hate him (incluiding me).

And, here there's a club called Liverpool, of which I was a fan when I was like 5 years old.

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Im not a big football fan, either footballs. I support the local team...they are being more Ain'ts than Saints this year. Time to break out the ol' paper bag.

12 December 2014
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I remember those paper bags.

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12 December 2014
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Merch said
So, I'm a fan of a club no one here knows, it's called Peñarol, it was a great team back in the 60s and it's the oldest club in the country. It's also one of the two biggest teams in Uruguay though we are playing horrible. There's a player who is always ill, it was bought for like 1 million dolars (here that's a lot) and all the fans hate him (incluiding me).

And, here there's a club called Liverpool, of which I was a fan when I was like 5 years old.

I know the team well.  I have been a football fan since the early 1960s and remember them winning the Intercontinental Cup a few times back then.

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I remember those paper bags.

Are you from New Orleans?

Two hours east in Mississippi. :)

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Another dodgy performance, another player injured (in the warm up this time), another amazing goalkeeping performance, 3 more points. I'm not wondering what we will do when we start playing well, I'm wondering if we are capable of playing well, or keeping enough players fit to play with more consistency.  Still, 3rd is looking good, and who knows what the new year will bring?

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Congrats on your victory @trcanberra . The two teams weren't great, but De Gea was definitely the deciding factor (our awful defence played a part as well). I'm really disappointed because I felt United were really for the taking today, but our players were incredibly wasteful. I hope the manager starts playing the right players and starts dropping the useless players, otherwise he won't be managing our club for long sadly.

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Its a wonder how many less points Man U would have if De Gea hadn't been in goal this season, some of the saves have been incredible. Man U are certainly getting better and whilst their defence is still ridiculously fragile they are going to score and therefore getting the results as well as showing real determination and team spirit. 

Liverpool on the other hand have the same defensive frailties but without a competent keeper and nowhere near the same threat going forward (Sterling's dithering when one on one with De Gea was awful to see but sums up his whole season). Gerrard is a pale imposter of his former self but Rogers can't drop him as a) they have no decent replacement and b) the fans and many in the English media would crucify him before the game even started. The amount of money Liverpool have wasted on signings under Rogers is breath-taking.

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@meanmistermustard Looks like we might have a team in the making. I just caught up with the transfers that took place while I was away and I like the look of the side a LOT now!

I still expect to see a new central defender, and perhaps a striker, come in; but we will be competitive even if they don't.

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Definitely need an attacker what with RVP and Falcao already gone and reports suggest that Hernandez will be off, which wouldnt be a surprise considering he was shipped out 5 minutes ater LVG arrived. Two forwards in Rooney and the inexperienced Wilson isnt anywhere near enough; Depay can play in that position but its not a season long solution. You could also do with a goalkeeper as its likely De Gea will be off to Real Madrid (tho who knows with both teams playing a game of hard ball with players). If De Gea does go you will probably get Ramos which means you're back line wont be too bad - tho I saw a BBC line-up that placed Smalling in defence!!! Getting a competent right back in was a huge step forward as Rafael is a major liability against the top sides.  

Its certainly a better quality in-depth squad and who knows with such additions it might spark some life in Di Maria and a few others who were disappointing last season. Who is in goal next season is the biggest factor; keep De Gea and get a couple more players in and you'll be a force. 

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Lots of Englanders here, eh?

 

Remember when a small country kicked you out on 2008 Euro qualifications in Wembley? Ofcourse you had your payback on us, but nevermind.

 

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I'm not English, i'm Scottish.

 

Thankfully!!

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meanmistermustard said
I'm not English, i'm Scottish.

 

Thankfully!!

 

Yes being Scottish you're spared all the angst we English endure by qualifying for and then failing in major tournaments.

Rugby soon.......that will be good. 

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Yip. We just fail to qualify, makes it so much easier to deal with the disappointment. We can then thoroughly amuse ourselves with the English media talking their team up from being an embarrassment to possible World Cup winners within the space of a 90 minute 2-1 victory over Estonia in a warm-up game. There then normally follows a number of crap performances that get them into the second round or qualifiers where it becomes a guaranteed certainty they will win the World Cup before they are defeated by a far better side and get slated by the press for not being as good as the country became to believe because of the press..

Of course last year this cycle was abandoned quickly by not even getting out of the group stages. Much to Scotland's delight.

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I'm not English, i'm Scottish.

 

Thankfully!!

And I'm Welsh 🙂

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trcanberra said

meanmistermustard said
I'm not English, i'm Scottish.

 

Thankfully!!

And I'm Welsh 🙂

You have my sympathy. apple01

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Yip. We just fail to qualify, makes it so much easier to deal with the disappointment. We can then thoroughly amuse ourselves with the English media talking their team up from being an embarrassment to possible World Cup winners within the space of a 90 minute 2-1 victory over Estonia in a warm-up game. There then normally follows a number of crap performances that get them into the second round or qualifiers where it becomes a guaranteed certainty they will win the World Cup before they are defeated by a far better side and get slated by the press for not being as good as the country became to believe because of the press..

Of course last year this cycle was abandoned quickly by not even getting out of the group stages. Much to Scotland's delight.

Sadly that's true............

 

Thing is I always cheer Scotland, Ireland and the Welsh on and would support them against any country other than England.

When Henri handled that ball and deprived the Irish of a deserved win I was spitting feathers.........Maradona's a hero in Scotland.

We've come to expect and accept that from you......But

The SNP are, prodding at areas that could become divisive in order to stir up trouble that doesn't really exist. They are looking for differences between us when the Scots and the rest of the Union mainly think the same about major issues. The sad thing is it is beginning to take effect.

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/new.....o-eye.html

I'd hate to see all we've achieved together, this little island race (with Scotland playing a full part), thrown away. But if it comes to another referendum and you vote 'away' I'll be holding the door open and offering you your hats and coats.

I hope it doesn't come to that.

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There will be another independence referendum and we will as a country vote Yes. There was a feeling of a missed opportunity after the last one, we hate being governed by the Tories and a ton of other things will tip the balance. I voted Yes last time and would do again.

Football wise i could possibly give some support to England if it wasnt for the media who are so smug about all things England yet condescending to every other country and player. The way they managed to write off and belittle Italy, Uruguay and Costa Rica in the last world cup yet so quickly promote their own team as almost flawless in every position was breathtaking in its stupidity.

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There will be another independence referendum and we will as a country vote Yes. There was a feeling of a missed opportunity after the last one, we hate being governed by the Tories and a ton of other things will tip the balance. I voted Yes last time and would do again.

Football wise i could possibly give some support to England if it wasnt for the media who are so smug about all things England yet condescending to every other country and player. The way they managed to write off and belittle Italy, Uruguay and Costa Rica in the last world cup yet so quickly promote their own team as almost flawless in every position was breathtaking in its stupidity.

Referendum wise ......... yes sadly you should go your own way if it's what you really want. Better a clean break than endless moaning. But keep in mind you would have come a cropper had the result been different last time. The SNP's (rose-tinted in any case) fiscal projections were dealt a heavy blow with the drop in oil prices but your luck was in this time and the rest of Britain's economy softened what would have been a crippling blow. But you would have gotten through it.

And so will we if you leave.  

Football wise it's hugely disappointing to see how low Scotland have sunk over the last 20 or so years. There used to be Scottish heroes in every First Division team. Now I can't think of any in the Premiership. Plenty of great Scottish managers though.

I remember the joy of Ali's Army World Cup qualification and that World-Cup song even there you had to have a dig at the English...........

https://youtu.be/4tiSww7FJAE

 

. .....the Scottish newspaper's optimism.......... not so different from your description of the back-pages south of your border. ........Similar result too.

One World Cup win in my lifetime......some semis.....nothing from Scotland. In fact not much to boast about until the Olympics came along.

We all gulped when we got them...How are we going to follow China? We will be a laughing stock that's if the terrorists don't blow it all up.

But it wasn't like that. Together team GB pulled off a great Olympics....And from the word go too.  A country confident enough and honest enough to celebrate it's history and contribution to the world but also to laugh at itself and set a new benchmark in self-depreciation. Brunel to Bean........Dickens to Bond and 'HMQ' knickers in the breeze dropping from a helicopter........ Smashing!

For once we won some medals too.

It showed we're better together.......But if you're right and the Scots want out so be it.

 

We should always look on the bright side........

 

https://youtu.be/jiu0lYQIPqE

 

Now that's a canon......

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Scotland havent reached any important tournament since 1998 and its an embarrassment to all Scots. Too many domestic sides threw money at crap foreigners instead of blooding youth for most of the 90's and early 00's; nothing came thru and so the National team became filled with no-hopers and shit that looking back we cringe at the names of the players in the squads. The lack of money in the Scottish game meant that teams had to look to youngsters again as they couldnt afford to buy shit expensive foreigners and now we are starting to see the benefit. Our 2016 campaign is going well (third in a group with Germany, Poland and the Republic of Ireland; could be a little better, could be far worse), we have our best national team squad since who knows when and the league is more competitive.

If you ignore the complete bullshit coming out from much of the media (English and Scottish, by either those who know nothing about our game or are ex-Rangers or Celtic and have to peddle the myth) about how our game is in deep poo as Rangers (as they are now known) aren't in the top league you'll find that crowds are up, matches are more competitive and teams are far more financially secure than they have been for years. Unfortunately we have the biggest arses (the politest word i can use on this forum) in charge of our game who seem eternally set on talking our game down and bitching that we arent in England and we dont have 7 Old Firm matches each season - no one in Scotland outside the Old Firm and sections of the media give a fuck about the Rangers v Celtic matches. Those matches are generally shit, the cost of policing the games are ridiculous and domestic violence increases as their numskull fans go home and beat their wives/partners if they lose. It does next to nothing to promote the Scottish game in a positive light. The only two sides who have suffered from Rangers going bankrupt are Rangers and Celtic. And the absolute bollocks that is portrayed about our game being poor and non-competitive irritates the hell out of me. Since 2011 Aberdeen, Inverness Caley Thistle, Hearts, St Mirren, Kilmarnock and St Johnstone have all won domestic trophies for the first time in years (if not for the first time ever in their history). Celtic may have comfortably won the league all those years but they have the biggest squad and budget by a mile so its not a surprise that over 38 matches they come out on top.

As for not winning anything as a country we have a population of 6 million and a far smaller pool of players, we're not going to be as good as France, Italy, Germany, England, Brazil etc. Regularly qualifying for major tournaments is what we should be achieving, possibly even getting into the later stages.

Team GB at the 2012 Olympics comprised of English and Welsh players, Scotland decided not to be included as we felt it may encourage UEFA (or FIFA) to remove our independence as a footballing nation. I was delighted that we did.

Regarding 'Ally's Army' we built ourselves up and failed miserably; its both hilarious and embarrassing looking back. We learnt our lesson. If England did the same and accepted reaching the quarter finals and the occasional semi-final as the level to attain you might be able to improve and not self-crucify yourselves. Instead you look back at 1966, immediately believe you should be beating Brazil 6 nil in the upcoming final to repeat that incredible achievement (god knows why considering your squad of players, apologies you have Harry Kane to save the day a-hard-days-night-ringo-12), and when you fail to do so lash out at everything and everyone in the game and even beyond demanding everything changes from grass roots up. However nothing does, despite all those spoken words, and still you're all amazed when at the next tournament you fail to meet the impossible expectations set despite knowing 3 weeks before the tournament begins you're not good enough. 

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