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29 September 2013
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I've just been reading about "Day Tripper" and "We Can Work It Out" - I'm wondering how one of them got to number one in the USA and the other one 'only' made it to number 5 when they are on opposite sides of the same bit of plastic?

I'm assuming that maybe airplay and jukebox plays had a hand in chart positions back then, perhaps other similar factors?

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29 September 2013
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I never really knew a lot about these things. I always thought the A side was like, the main single and the B side just an extra track. Only found about about a year ago that that wasn't always the case and that there were also double A sides.

Then I thought both sides should be on the same place in the charts, since they're both a single on the same disk. But, of course radios don't play often play 2 songs by the same artist behind each other.

However, I actually looked it up and read that it DOES have to do with airplay. The Beatles picked those songs both as A-sides because they deemed both of them to be single worthy. One of them probably was promoted less or got less airplay and so it was less successful.

Btw, doesn't double A-side mean that they're actually on the same side of the record?

More info about it here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A.....and_B-side

It's funny, the Beatles, Wings and Paul are often used as examples in that bit.

29 September 2013
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^ Thanks - seems you have MUCH better Google skills than I do :)

On the side of the record thing, most had them on opposite sides of the plastic, otherwise they would have ended up with more than 2 songs and made it an EP?

I'm still wondering how some of their LPs made the Singles charts in the UK.

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29 September 2013
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^ Thanks - seems you have MUCH better Google skills than I do :)

On the side of the record thing, most had them on opposite sides of the plastic, otherwise they would have ended up with more than 2 songs and made it an EP?

I'm still wondering how some of their LPs made the Singles charts in the UK.

 

OK I just typed a post out and it gave back the above. No boxes, no quotes nothing.  Gone forever. a-hard-days-night-paul-11

 

Anyway.

 

The UK charts back in the early 60's had no rule about LP's being contained in the album charts or EP's in the EP chart, if an album sold enough copies then it got to be in the singles chart. No idea when it all changed (the EP chart was ditched sometime between the Nowhere Man and MMT EP's) but its why there is a picture of a singles chart with The Rolling Stones at number 13 with I Wanna Be Your Man and at 14 is With The Beatles. There is also a Beatles EP at # 16 and possibly another further down (all that can be seen is "(EP) The " as a tv camera is in the way).

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30 September 2013
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^ Yes, which kind of had me wondering - surely some of the Beatles LPs sold a lot of copies in the first week or two - wouldn't they have made number one? (one of the books I am reading now says you only needed to sell something like 10,000 copies to have a hit single in the early 1960s in the UK).

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30 September 2013
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I have no idea. I read about presales of 1.2 million for a Beatles single and then that it debuted at number 7 before climbing to the top a week later. Never understood that part.

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