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Coronavirus – Come Together, Right Now
20 March 2020
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As requested this is a catch-all thread to cover all aspects of the coronavirus that is affecting upon us all; news updates, how you are coping, your thoughts etc. Currently, there are conversations in a number of threads so this should bring all of those together in one place.

The information on this first post will probably alter but the aim is to provide some advice and, if helpful, links to sites on how to stay safe and cope in everyday life as the days go on. It's vital we all do what we can to protect ourselves, our loved ones and everyone else each and every day so please be mindful of folk on here and those around you in your daily lives. Help each other where and when you can, even the smallest act will be massive to some people, especially those who are vulnerable or just scared. Please follow your local authorities and governments advice and restrictions, they may hard at times (these are major changes to how we are used to living every day) but they will help keep everyone safe as much as possible.

The below advice on how to stay safe is taken from the WHO website.

Wash your hands frequently
Regularly and thoroughly clean your hands with an alcohol-based hand rub or wash them with soap and water.

Maintain social distancing
Maintain at least 1 metre (3 feet) distance between yourself and anyone who is coughing or sneezing.

If you have fever, cough and difficulty breathing, seek medical care early

Stay home if you feel unwell. If you have a fever, cough and difficulty breathing, seek medical attention and call in advance. Follow the directions of your local health authority.

Stay informed and follow advice given by your healthcare provider

Stay informed on the latest developments about COVID-19. Follow advice given by your healthcare provider, your national and local public health authority or your employer on how to protect yourself and others from COVID-19.

 

One note is that it is recommended to wash your hands for at least 20 seconds and a good way of doing this is to sing 'Her Majesty

Please keep any and all political comments and discussions of the coronavirus on topic, if you wish to slate or heap love on politicians please post in other threads such as 'Philosophy', posts and conversations that go into that direction will almost certainly be moved elsewhere. The thread is to provide support and distraction not to get involved in heavy discussions over policy and how it is handled by the politicians.

As many folks will either be in isolation or become isolated in the days away, if you have any suggestions on how the forum can help relieve the boredom, solitude and even loneliness, please let them be known either via PM, email or on the forum. I'm sure Joe and us mods will be more than willing to help out where required as much as we can.

One other thing to note is that if you need anything in day-to-day living please say to someone, be it out in the world or on the forum. It doesn't matter what it is. I am sure people can work together to help in whatever way is required and no one should be struggling. Together we will get thru this if we do what is required and get each other thru.

Stay safe.

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This website may be of interest to some people too: https://www.trackcorona.live/

Has lots of worldwide statistics - such as only 15 countries are right now uninfected.

 

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As many folks will either be in isolation or become isolated in the days away, if you have any suggestions on how the forum can help relieve the boredom, solitude and even loneliness, please let them be known either via PM, email or on the forum. I'm sure Joe and us mods will be more than willing to help out where required as much as we can.

Please do! Any Time At All , anything at all, all you gotta do is call, and we'll be here.

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Beatlebug said elsewhere
Learn an instrument
Practice the instrument you already know
Memorize poetry/dramatic writing
Plant a garden
Read books
Research your local county and gubernatorial candidates for the November elections (if you're American) (or the primary if you're in one of the states that hasn't voted yet)
Dust the entire house
Go on a Beatles binge (or Bowie) (or the Zeppathon)
Get bored (seriously. Don't fear boredom. It can be good for you.)
Meditate

This, by the way, is basically a list of all the things I want to do/would do if I had time. ahdn_george_06  

There's also been talk of organizing a group chat movie viewing.

And for those of you with more wanderlust, I highly recommend one of my favorite pastimes: exploring various cool locations around the world on Google Maps and/or Images and/or Street View. If it's a place that has a particularly distinct musical tradition, listening to regionally appropriate music can also aid the atmosphere. My personal favorite virtual vacation spots are the lovely tourist traps of Chefchaouen, Morocco (especially good music there) and Santorini, Greece. You're also welcome in my state of North Carolina any time -- the mountains highly recommended, just take a virtual drive down the Blue Ridge Parkway without actually having ro drive around steep mountain curves. a-hard-days-night-george-4

I always did this before, anyway, because I'm a broke homebody who loves to travel. a-hard-days-night-john-6

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Beatlebug said

Beatlebug said elsewhere

Learn an instrument

Practice the instrument you already know

Memorize poetry/dramatic writing

Plant a garden

Read books

Research your local county and gubernatorial candidates for the November elections (if you're American) (or the primary if you're in one of the states that hasn't voted yet)

Dust the entire house

Go on a Beatles binge (or Bowie) (or the Zeppathon)

Get bored (seriously. Don't fear boredom. It can be good for you.)

Meditate

This, by the way, is basically a list of all the things I want to do/would do if I had time. ahdn_george_06  

There's also been talk of organizing a group chat movie viewing.

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If anyone else wants in, do say so - we have a PM thread and will have a discord server shortly, and our movie will be starting in about 19 hours time...

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I was sent home from work last Monday with a cough and cold symptoms so working from home. I've felt ok but the cough is getting more persistent. I'm still not convinced I have the actual virus but maybe something else. I've started trying to learn harmonica.

Something I will say though is that from reading lots of info about Coronavirus and the 1918 influenza one thing stands out. Complacency will kill many. Some countries have been way too slow too react and take this seriously. This article is the most interesting I've read which shows through lots of stats that delaying action by even a day can result in a very large percentage of deaths. This info was out there a few weeks ago. Shame some of the politicians and scientific advisers have been blind to it.

https://medium.com/@tomaspueyo.....d3d9cd99ca

Something else really struck me today. I saw a press conference with a Chinese Red Cross official who visited Northern Italy. He was scathing about their lockdown efforts which he said in his opinion were inadequate. Now baring in mind in the Uk where I'm based our procedures are way much more lax than Italy (untill today) this does not bode very well. Also I saw some stats today which show the mortality rate in the UK is at a much steeper rate than even Italy which is very worrying. I hope everyone stays safe.                           

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Yah we got the organized chat streaming working, we will be starting the party at 5pm EST. If you are available at that time, PM or say so and we'll send you the link. Come one and come all.

 

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I still have a cough but it isn't corona which is a pain when I go out and start coughing.

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Each day I'm getting more and more anxious because of all the uncertainty surrounding our current situation worldwide. I know it may seem trivial compared to the situations of others, but I'm very fearful for my immediate future. And I know that social distancing and self-quarantine is extremely necessary, however, it's very much getting very hard to stay cooped up in my house and stay away from the people that bring me the most joy and comfort. I try to keep myself busy and active during these days (I've started jogging and running every day, for example), but it's been a daily struggle being cooped up in my house with my depression. Not being able to have IRL social atmospheres to be distracted by and comforted by is not helping. I'm scared that I won't be able to start therapy as soon as I hoped and that the rules of social distancing and quarantine will prevent me from going to see my psychiatrist in April so that I can start taking medication for my depression, anxiety, and panic disorder. I'm scared that I won't see my friends for the rest of the school year. Most of my friends are seniors, and these are some of my last months with them. I was looking forward to asking a guy I really feel a connection with to prom and us having a great time together, but what if prom gets altogether canceled? I feel bad for all my senior friends that will miss out on their final days of a huge chapter of their lives. What if the school musical that my drama club poured hundreds and hundreds of dollars into and worked extremely hard on doesn't happen? Chicago was supposed to be our biggest musical yet and bring in the much-needed funds through the expected ticket sales.

I'm also scared of how this will affect my summer if it drags on until then. I work at a public pool run by my county's parks department as a lifeguard every summer and I get great hours and great pay, which all goes into a savings account that I keep to help pay for college and life after high school. The aquatics test that I need to pass every year to work as a county lifeguard is scheduled for May, but how can I keep in shape for it if I can't do swimming with my high school's aquatic club? Will it even happen? What if the pool closes this summer, what am I gonna do to feed my savings account? I'm also scared that I won't be able to tour any colleges that I'm interested in. Also, my SATs have been postponed, but what if they're canceled altogether? I spent months preparing. What if my AP tests are canceled and I can't get college credit for the classes that I work my ass of in? 

Sorry for how long that was but I just needed to vent all of my concerns that I've been harboring. I know the first-world problems of a teenage girl may seem meek and unimportant in light of the overall corona crisis and what other people have to struggle with, but I've been made really upset by how my life has been upended. But the only thing I can do about right now is to discuss my feelings and stay positive and try to be the most productive I can and to take care of my mental health the best I can. 

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@lovelyritametermaid Hey, that's what this community is for. The fact that you're self-aware enough to appreciate that your problems are first-world is a good sign a-hard-days-night-george-10 and getting it out of your system is probably the best thing you can do. Personally I always find a good whinge to acknowledge your grievances, followed by a chaser of "it could always be worse" reflecting on situations that are much worse than yours and counting your blessings, is a most excellent upper. Just because your problems may be relatively minor doesn't mean they don't exist or you necessarily have to suck them up (the fact that that's probably what I'd do notwithstanding. I know you can't all be as fabulous and perfect as I a-hard-days-night-george-10). But seriously, complain to us any time. john-lennon-salute_gifapple01

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Beatlebug said
And for those of you with more wanderlust, I highly recommend one of my favorite pastimes: exploring various cool locations around the world on Google Maps and/or Images and/or Street View. If it's a place that has a particularly distinct musical tradition, listening to regionally appropriate music can also aid the atmosphere. My personal favorite virtual vacation spots are the lovely tourist traps of Chefchaouen, Morocco (especially good music there) and Santorini, Greece. You're also welcome in my state of North Carolina any time -- the mountains highly recommended, just take a virtual drive down the Blue Ridge Parkway without actually having ro drive around strep mountain curves. a-hard-days-night-george-4

I always did this before, anyway, because I'm a broke homebody who loves to travel. a-hard-days-night-john-6

Hey, that's pretty neat! I might just have to try that myself.paul-mccartney-thumb_gif

Continuing on the topic of visiting places on Google Maps:

What I like to do sometimes is to visit places with some sort of personal connection. Maybe it's that one faraway beach you went to on a family vacation when you were little, or something as simple as your favourite childhood playground. Regardless of the location, sometimes it can be fun and interesting to distract yourself and look back at old memories, or someone else's.

One of my mom's friends used to own a music store, and about a month or so ago I decided to punch the address from one of his old business cards into Google. I was surprised to see that it wasn't at all very far from my old house. Not only that, but although the most recent images of the location from one side of the street showed a different business that had replaced it, to my amazement, on the other side were a series of years-old images from various times that showed the store open. Although I had never been there, I was strangely touched to see it.

So, uh, there's another suggestion, I s'pose. mccartney-shrug_01_gif

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Thank U Very Much. paul-mccartney-thumb_gifjohn-lennon-salute_gif

Though there's still bound to be some creep over into other threads another advantage to keeping it in one thread as much possible is that allows people to escape it when they want, and I'm sure there's gonna be times ahead when we're gonna want to come on here to get away from it all and don't want to wonder which of the social threads have been swallowed by it.

So, here in the UK, the schools closed for most and Boris finally ordered pubs, bars, restaurants (apart from takeaway and delivery service), sports centres, gyms, etc. close for the last time tonight.

Very strange walk up the shop tonight, like Christmas Day - only with the Fish & Chip shop open and the pub closed.

On a possibly better note personally, while I can't be entirely sure yet, after years of austerity I think the Chancellor of the Exchequer (finance minister) raised my welfare benefits by around £20 a week today, an extra £1000 for the year. I can't be sure because I am not yet on the benefit he named but the benefit he named everybody is was (that's gonna be delayed) in the process of being moved to and I just haven't been moved yet, hard to think the legacy benefits aren't included.

If I've understood it rightly, that's quite an income jump. Benefits have mostly been frozen in recent years, with the most recent raise I can remember being £1.72 on a year my rent went up £2.04! blue-meanie

Don't be a dick when shopping and hoard, though I'm sure you won't, but be verbally disapproving of those that do - even if it means telling a friend or relation they're being a dick, and the shelves are only empty because they're buying ten times what they need.

On the keeping entertained (and educated) over the time ahead, with schools closing all over the place, audible have opened a free library of audiobooks:

For as long as schools are closed, we're open. Starting today, kids everywhere can instantly stream an incredible collection of stories, including titles across six different languages, that will help them continue dreaming, learning, and just being kids.

All stories are free to stream on your desktop, laptop, phone or tablet.

There's no sign-up or anything needed. Don't know if available from everywhere but there's always a VPN...

While aimed at those who suddenly find themselves out of school there's plenty to entertain listeners of all ages. It is broken up into six categories:

Littlest Listeners
Elementary
Tween
Teen
Literary Classics
Folk & Fairy Tales for All

I'm gonna start off with E. H. Gombrich's A Little History of the World, in the Teen section; written by a German in 1935, as the Nazis were on the rise, it is a work of genius and rarely outside my five favourite books of all time, never outside my top ten.

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@Leppo said

Also I saw some stats today which show the mortality rate in the UK is at a much steeper rate than even Italy which is very worrying.

Let's not get too caught up in local statistics, folks, even though they can look scary they often mislead.

Yes, it is completely true that the mortality rate curve in the UK is steeper than in Italy, however this is among test-confirmed cases, and the vast majority of testing in the UK so far has been done on people that have needed hospitalisation, and are so among the most vulnerable, whereas the Italian testing has been of the majority of those who have reported symptoms.

The UK is looking to rapidly increase those it is testing, and as it does, and we begin to get a better picture of the infection rate within the general population, we will find it is confirmed to be more widespread in the population than we want (though most will only have mild symptoms or be asymptomic) and the death rate will fall.

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It’s scary what’s could happen but we can only ensure we follow the advice given and look out for one another now. What happens down the line nobody really knows as it won’t be a sudden everything is over, back to normal recovery.

Anxieties are incredibly difficult to manage and uncertainty only adds to those. It’s therefore trying to accept how things currently are, there is little able to be done just now but do what you can, and believe folk will pull together when the end is in sight and be willing to help get you back on the path you were on when it started. Sadly there are no easy answers, and at the moment in some areas there are none at all. 

The forum has always been here for folk to post how they are feeling, that hasn’t changed. Post away as often there are others who will be in similar situations thinking and feeling the same. 

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Great idea for a thread! 

At some point during the quarantine I will be attempting a one-sitting marathon of every Beatles song in chronological order by release. I challenge anyone who's up to it to do the same 

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I honestly have no real idea what to write in this thread right now, but I'm glad there's now a designated thread. I feel I will be using it more often as this rages on. Sadly, it seems this world under frenzy is running on a cruel and firmly placed system of every person or family for themselves, as seen with how rapid shops are being cleared and people getting into needless scraps. Some of the supermarkets in my area have tried dedicating their opening hour only for elderly and vulnerable customers but so far, it's proved to be impossible with lines of various people still blocking the entrances. What I find worse is the morons trying to make profit out of the situation at hand. If only everyone could stop and work out a way to get through this with selfishness and differences set aside... 

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Isn’t “come together” the wrong phrase for social distancing?

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Isn’t “come together” the wrong phrase for social distancing?  

Coming together virtually, obviously, since this an online community.

ETA: In this time of social isolation, online communities are more important than ever, which is why we provided this place as an outlet for people's social needs, to help them get through physical social distancing.

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Today's flick that we're showing in 2 hours is Paul's masterpiece Give My Regards To Broad Street , the furthest I've ever got into it is about 40 minutes and by that point I get too bored and decide I would rather watch paint dry. This will be my 4th attempt.

 

For those of you who haven't seen Broad Street, make sure to tune in because you will not get through it by yourself, no one is capable.

For those of you who have survived Broad Street, congratulations. Maybe you're a sadist and want to see other people suffer through this monstrosity and therefore you would enjoy this stream.

 

PM either SS? or Holey to get the link. It'll be a laugh at the very least. 

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Thought I'd just leave this video here. It's part of her "Silver Linings Series," where she covers positive stories as a break from the usual depressing news cycle.

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I am very delighted to say I’m working and therefore can not indulge in the delights of ‘GMRTBS’. A film so unbelievable bad that somehow gets worse as it goes on and yet still has you furious by the end that it was so much worse than it was in the middle when you thought it had sunk to unknown levels of crap which it had reached after 10 minutes. And it’s so god damn boring. 
Watch the ‘NMLN’ promo and save yourself 90 minutes of hell. 

or

 

It’s great. Paul and Ringo together. paul-mccartney-thumb_gif

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