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Beach Boys appreciation thread
4 April 2015
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Listening to "Wouldn't It Be Nice" right now. Their voices are oh-mazing. (Their accents, not so much... but I'm used to those fab Liverpool lads.) 

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Silly Girl said
Listening to "Wouldn't It Be Nice" right now. Their voices are oh-mazing. (Their accents, not so much... but I'm used to those fab Liverpool lads.) 

Amazing harmonies, even with the accents :)

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Seeing this thread made me have to listen to some Beach Boys .  I like Heroes and Villains, especially the bit that goes,,,

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Sugarplum fairy said
Seeing this thread made me have to listen to some Beach Boys .  I like Heroes and Villains, especially the bit that goes,,,

I'm sure I replied to this a while ago but it seems to have vanished, maybe I only dreamt it ..

Anyway, I like the various versions of the song on the Beach Boys version of Smile.

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I think God Only Knows is one of the best songs ever written.

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Linde quietly enthused 
I think God Only Knows is one of the best songs ever written.

So do I. a-hard-days-night-paul-8

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Silly Girl said

Linde quietly enthused 
I think God Only Knows is one of the best songs ever written.

So do I. a-hard-days-night-paul-8

Yip.  Love the lines

"If you should ever leave me,

though life would still go on believe me.

The world could show nothing to me

So what good would living do me"

Tho its alway good to get away from the "if you leave me i will shrivel and die after hanging myself in the basement" songs which are more common.

So overplayed tho is 'God Only Knows'.

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I just found out that I'm seeing Brian Wilson live with my aunt on July 6TH as a late birthday present.

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Necko said
I just found out that I'm seeing Brian Wilson live with my aunt on July 6TH as a late birthday present.

Nice, I look forward to hearing about the show.

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From Brian Wilson's Facebook page:

On this day 49 years ago – May 16, 1966 – Pet Sounds was released. "I think it's a very everlasting album. I'm very proud of the love that went into it. And people pick up on that too, and they really like it 'cause they feel the love. – Brian Wilson

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Is it just me that finds 'pet sounds' hugely overrated ? I just can't get with it at all.

The beach boys were inferior to the beatles in pretty much every way.

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Since this is an appreciation thread, let's try to keep negative vibes out. We had a bit of a flare up in the Yoko appreciation thread. I would like to avoid one in this thread if possible. Thanks.

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Necko said
I just found out that I'm seeing Brian Wilson live with my aunt on July 6TH as a late birthday present.

We saw Brian last August in Ohio USA.  Great show.  I was hoping the whole band would be there, as they were talking about doing that tour together.  But no such luck.  I have seen the rest of the band twice, once after a baseball game (huge stadium, they were at 2nd base, we were way up behind home team dugout), anda once last year at the Abbey Road on the river beatles festival.  both are good - brian because of his song choices (have you ever seen his 'pet sounds' concert movie from a show in the uk?), the beach boys because they have more voices, including 3 (I think) originals, to harmonize better. 

In the interest of vibes, here is some beach boys love:

their harmonies have to be first.  I personally think they surpass all other pop/rock groups in harmonies, at least quartet+ size.  It would be fair to rank harmonizers as duos, trios, quartets, quintets, and bigger, imo.

their style of beach music is so infectious, so carefree, so fun.  just listening to them is like taking a day off work (well ok, hyperbole there ;).

their songs are almost all upbeat - lots of love songs, hangin' out songs, surfing songs, beach party songs, blowing off work songs...seems more than one famous 60s band hit pay dirt with a lot of love songs (ok, the beatles diverged rather far from "happy love songs" on the White Album some, but primarily their music is upbeat and more often than not, about love).

they were innovative - to repeat their signature sound, the harmonies - they went places with harmonies that nobody else had gone before (and few have gone since,, at least some of those intricate harmonies).

their use of mini-orchestras, with horns and strings as well as "modern rock instruments" parallels the Beatles' groundbreaking arrangements.

it's well documented that the beatles and the beach boys used each other as inspiration.

the beach boys were iconic as the "summer fun, party and make out" music - an integral part of the "era of love" (lengthening of "summer of love" to include the years 63-70).

many of the beach boys' lyrics captured the mood they were written about incredibly well.  In particular, the teen-age puppy love stuff.  Far surpassing most of the subsequent romance music through today in terms of writing and singing what you know, as opposed to singing what someone else thinks you know.

are they superior to the beatles? I think not.  but then name a 20th-21st century musician/band who is! Just guessing I'd put the beach boys in my top...20 groups of the rock music era (which I define as starting approximately 1955 with Berry's 'Maybellline' (and many others including Elvis) - but we could argue the exact starting point of rock for years - in fact I think people have been doing it for years lol).

in academia, one measure of the worth of a peer-reviewed paper is how many subsequent papers cite it.  the same goes for music - and if you value the beach boys by their influence on subsequent music you'll be placing a high value on them.

just off the top of my head...

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^ Very nice post @Matt Busby - I think I pretty much feel the same way about everything you have said. I would only add I have come to enjoy their later output more than I expected from some of the reviews.

And @castironshore , on Sounds, it took me around 2-3 plays before I began to appreciate the album, and I'm liking it more and more now.

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Necko said
I'm looking forward to this televised event in 2015.  Brian Wilson will be performing, along with former Beach Boys Al Jardine and Blondie Chaplin.  Wikipedia also says that Ricky Fataar will also be there, but the source provided doesn't mention him.

As of 2014, Al (and Mike Love, and uh, one other original beach boy, Bruce Johnston I think, along with David Marks and Blondie) were still touring as the Beach Boys .  So, I think we can eliminate the "former".

Thanks for the heads up about the show, if you read my last post you'll understand it's a must-see for me 🙂

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Really?  I thought that Al left the band when Carl died.

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Really?  I thought that Al left the band when Carl died.

He pretty much did until the 2012 reunion; but most of the members have turned up for the odd show now and then from what I can tell?

The only correction I might suggest is that Bruce Johnston isn't an 'original' Beach Boy, though he has been around forever.

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This is somewhat off topic, but not entirely, and is a subject people need to know more about. Something you all might want to watch for is when you see Brian Wilson perform, pay attention to his facial expressions (or lack thereof).  The psych medications he's on cause "lack of affect", which is docspeak for lack of facial expression.  After his legal overmedication starting in 1984, you'll notice a marked lack of expression on his face when he performs. And the last 10 years or so he seems to show more enthusiasm (besides seeing him live I've also seen him on Jools Holland a couple times and a talk show or two), indicating he's on a less sedating and hopefully less hard core group of medications. He has always felt enthusiastic and proud about the music, at least according to things he's said in interviews throughout his career.  But anytime in the last 35 years, you'll notice he has much less facial expression than most musicians.  This is primarily due to his medications, in particular antipsychotics, and if he's on a mood stabilizer they are notorious for this as well.

                                                                                                             

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I'm really not trying to put a downer on the thread, i actually like the beach boys and enjoy some of their 70s work such as 'holland' or 'surfs up'. But 'pet sounds' has never really connected with me. I've always found it irredeemably wet and hugely overrated.

In terms of influence on the beatles it's firmly in the mccartney corner as neither harrison or lennon had any time for that album.

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castironshore said
I'm really not trying to put a downer on the thread, i actually like the beach boys and enjoy some of their 70s work such as 'holland' or 'surfs up'. But 'pet sounds' has never really connected with me. I've always found it irredeemably wet and hugely overrated.

In terms of influence on the beatles it's firmly in the mccartney corner as neither harrison or lennon had any time for that album.

Holland is close to my favourite, currently competing with the recent Smile.

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