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Hey all - as some of you know I have been listening to a LOT of the Beach Boys over the last few months and enjoying it immensely.  The range of their music is not a surprise to me as I began listing to them in the early 1970s when they were pretty much past their 'sun, surf and cars' phase; but it might surprise anyone who is only familiar with their 1960s releases.

So, I thought it would be great to have a thread to discuss their music as I know we have a few fans in these parts (I started an account on the main fan site for the band but there are some VERY unfriendly folks there).

The albums I like most on first listen (and some of them are re-listens from back when I had some of their LPs) are All Summer Long, Pet Sounds, Smile (the recently released 'finished' version), Holland and L.A. (Light Album).  For the Beatles fans who may not know, Pet Sounds is one of Paul's favourite albums.

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Ooh.  Good topic.  I'm surprised that we don't have one already.

I've technically been a Beach Boys fan longer than I've been a Beatles fan (not by much longer, though).  Pet Sounds was the first popular music album that I ever owned.  Prior to that, all I had were soundtracks.

They have some very interesting deep cuts and songs that weren't hits.  Most of their 70's material is underappreciated.  Surf's Up, Holland, and Love You are pretty great records.

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I Love The Beach Boys . They were kind of The American Beatles (EAT YOUR HEART OUT DAVE CLARK FIVE). My Favorite song by The Beach Boys is probably Good Vibrations or Surfin Safari. They are what i call the exact definition of what the atmosphere of California is. Their Sound is great. R.I.P. Dennis and Carl Wilson

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Ooh.  Good topic.  I'm surprised that we don't have one already.

I've technically been a Beach Boys fan longer than I've been a Beatles fan (not by much longer, though).  Pet Sounds was the first popular music album that I ever owned.  Prior to that, all I had were soundtracks.

They have some very interesting deep cuts and songs that weren't hits.  Most of their 70's material is underappreciated.  Surf's Up, Holland, and Love You are pretty great records.

Yes, I like Surf's Up a lot as well, it was the third of their albums I bought; I started with Holland and went back a few years from there - then forwards (I didn't really like Carl and The Passions much back then but enjoy it more now).  I'm still coming to terms with Love You, an interesting album that I need to listen to a bit more.

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I Love The Beach Boys . They were kind of The American Beatles (EAT YOUR HEART OUT DAVE CLARK FIVE). My Favorite song by The Beach Boys is probably Good Vibrations or Surfin Safari. They are what i call the exact definition of what the atmosphere of California is. Their Sound is great. R.I.P. Dennis and Carl Wilson

I love the energy of their early and mid-60s songs, tracks like Hawaii are just awesome, and what they do in under two minutes on tracks like Little Deuce Coupe :)

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trcanberra said

The John said
I Love The Beach Boys . They were kind of The American Beatles (EAT YOUR HEART OUT DAVE CLARK FIVE). My Favorite song by The Beach Boys is probably Good Vibrations or Surfin Safari. They are what i call the exact definition of what the atmosphere of California is. Their Sound is great. R.I.P. Dennis and Carl Wilson

I love the energy of their early and mid-60s songs, tracks like Hawaii are just awesome, and what they do in under two minutes on tracks like Little Deuce Coupe :)

Yeah those are pretty good.

Now i have a question for this forum. Does anybody think Pet Sounds is Over-rated. I Personally Love Pet Sounds but i wonder if anyone thinks differently

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The only other thread related to the Beach Boys I found is this one http://www.beatlesbible.com/fo.....eachother/

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The John said

trcanberra said

The John said
I Love The Beach Boys . They were kind of The American Beatles (EAT YOUR HEART OUT DAVE CLARK FIVE). My Favorite song by The Beach Boys is probably Good Vibrations or Surfin Safari. They are what i call the exact definition of what the atmosphere of California is. Their Sound is great. R.I.P. Dennis and Carl Wilson

I love the energy of their early and mid-60s songs, tracks like Hawaii are just awesome, and what they do in under two minutes on tracks like Little Deuce Coupe :)

Yeah those are pretty good.

Now i have a question for this forum. Does anybody think Pet Sounds is Over-rated. I Personally Love Pet Sounds but i wonder if anyone thinks differently

I think that the album was so different from a lot of their earlier music (though there are hints of its style on some of the preceding albums) that it would have been hard for many of the fans at that time to get into it.  It took me until about my third run through to start to appreciate it, and now I really like it.  I think part of the problem is the whole 'probably the greatest album of all time' thing; tastes differ I guess - I think it's great but not as great as some of the claims made on its behalf by its biggest fans.

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trcanberra said

The John said

trcanberra said

The John said
I Love The Beach Boys . They were kind of The American Beatles (EAT YOUR HEART OUT DAVE CLARK FIVE). My Favorite song by The Beach Boys is probably Good Vibrations or Surfin Safari. They are what i call the exact definition of what the atmosphere of California is. Their Sound is great. R.I.P. Dennis and Carl Wilson

I love the energy of their early and mid-60s songs, tracks like Hawaii are just awesome, and what they do in under two minutes on tracks like Little Deuce Coupe :)

Yeah those are pretty good.

Now i have a question for this forum. Does anybody think Pet Sounds is Over-rated. I Personally Love Pet Sounds but i wonder if anyone thinks differently

I think that the album was so different from a lot of their earlier music (though there are hints of its style on some of the preceding albums) that it would have been hard for many of the fans at that time to get into it.  It took me until about my third run through to start to appreciate it, and now I really like it.  I think part of the problem is the whole 'probably the greatest album of all time' thing; tastes differ I guess - I think it's great but not as great as some of the claims made on its behalf by its biggest fans.

I totally agree. I mean, it's a solid album, but there are probably at least 50 albums I'd put ahead of it, and I still have a lot of music I haven't listened to.

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"Does anybody think Pet Sounds is Over-rated."

Not sure I answered succinctly enough before: Yes, but just a little :)

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I'm a sucker for those great harmonies and the occasional falsetto.  I posted on another thread my opinion that the only Christmas song worth a damn is Little St. Nick. Oh, alright, there is "Wonderful Christmastime ."

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I'm a sucker for those great harmonies and the occasional falsetto.  I posted on another thread my opinion that the only Christmas song worth a damn is Little St. Nick. Oh, alright, there is "Wonderful Christmastime ."

Don't forget "Fairytale of New York"

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'Fairytale of New York' suffered from the same issue as every other christmas song - shoved repeatedly and frequently down your throat whether you like it or not for weeks on end until it makes you want to rip your ears off and stuff them in your bloodied ear holes to block out the song so you cant hear it anymore.

Back on thread i think that whilst 'Pet Sounds' is a good album its never grabbed me.

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'Fairytale of New York' suffered from the same issue as every other christmas song - shoved repeatedly and frequently down your throat whether you like it or not for weeks on end until it makes you want to rip your ears off and stuff them in your bloodied ear holes to block out the song so you cant hear it anymore.

NO. NOOOOOOOOOOOO. I will not listen to anyone on this one, even if they're making valid points.

 

O topic - Pet Sounds is an amazing album. Love the softness of it.

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I'm a sucker for those great harmonies and the occasional falsetto.  I posted on another thread my opinion that the only Christmas song worth a damn is Little St. Nick. Oh, alright, there is "Wonderful Christmastime ."

Don't forget "Fairytale of New York"

Never heard it before.  I guess it hasn't made a beachhead into the States yet. It doesn't do much to dispel the Irish stereotype, does it?

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Like The Beatles, I grew up listening to The Beach Boys , so yes I love them. However, I do not own an album. My dad had/has a Beach Boys greatest hits album that came out the last decade. I do have their songs in my phone. I just love driving/riding down the road listening to them.

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I also have to mention the late 60s albums by the band, the 'post Smile debacle' period; those five albums leading up to Surf's Up are consistently interesting; with 20/20 and Sunflower being particularly strong.  I think I also like Smiley Smile more than many folks do (or don't).  For info; the other two of the five are Wild Honey and Friends.

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My favourite Beach Boys album is probably Holland. I just love the California Saga.

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I also have to mention the late 60s albums by the band, the 'post Smile debacle' period; those five albums leading up to Surf's Up are consistently interesting; with 20/20 and Sunflower being particularly strong.  I think I also like Smiley Smile more than many folks do (or don't).  For info; the other two of the five are Wild Honey and Friends.

I love Smiley Smile.  With the semi-complete version of Smile now released, it's interesting to compare how songs changed from Smile to Smiley Smile.

 

Vegetables:

Smile:

Smiley Smile:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXnfS5zelhc

 

The Elements: Fire (Mrs. O'Leary's Cow) :

Smile:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31pCY1uDRzY

Smiley Smile:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbewiJnbgOE

 

He Gives Speeches/She's Goin' Bald:

Smile:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygDtTPwcnkU

Smiley Smile:

http://youtu.be/4NtFmcTDkL4

 

With Me Tonight:

Smile:

Smiley Smile:

 

Wind Chimes:

Smile:

Smiley Smile:

 

Wonderful:

Smile:

Smiley Smile:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F460F5YubkY

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Ron Nasty said
My favourite Beach Boys album is probably Holland. I just love the California Saga.

The third part of the Saga is my favourite Beach Boys track; I also like the version that Al did with Neil Young - though I could do without Alec Baldwin :)

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