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Are You into Older Music/Movies/Other Things as a General Rule?
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23 January 2017
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Starr Shine? said
Not like old music has sex references in it.  

I agree, but most of the time, they weren't thrown into your face every second of the song. I think that has increased over time.

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23 January 2017
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I agree with SPB, there were drug and sex references in many older songs, but they weren't quite as explicit. This makes the songs fun for both adults and young'ns. Now a day's all the references are just straight up said, which makes many newer songs pretty inappropriate for younger audiences.

Back on topic, as far as other music now a days, some of it is descent, but much of the mainstream stuff is trash. The only newer artist I listen to on a regular basis is Taylor Swift. Her music is much more authentic than many of the pop hits on the charts. I also listen to those newer albums by good o'l Richard and James. ahdn_ringo_09a-hard-days-night-paul-7

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23 January 2017
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Sure older music had sexual references in it, such as Day Tripper and Sexy Sadie referencing prostitution, but it's not like The Beatles were saying "Yo n***** I'm gonna f*** this bitch yo motherf***ing n***** fat ass n***** shit bang big ass bitch pussy f*** n***** cuz I don't give a f*** n***** yo n*****".

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23 January 2017
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That's cause they couldn't. More freedom allows more choice.

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It was slightly different in the world of what was then known as "race music": Dig "Shave 'em Dry" from 1935:

http://birthmoviesdeath.com/20.....-from-1935

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Starr Shine? said
That's cause they couldn't. More freedom allows more choice.  

It's a good thing too because a lot of people have been introduced to them as children.

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I am into older things, but not "as a General Rule". I do prefer older movies, but there have been crappy movies ever since they started making them. The only thing I don't like about a lot of newer movies is the gratuitous elements. Alfred Hitchcock was a master of making it clear that someone was being hacked to bits without needing to show that someone was being hacked to bits. A stream of fake blood swirling down a bathtub drain told the whole story. Why don't more people have that talent?

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I'll give anything a chance. With music I tend to like things from the early 1900s to the 1980s, and with movies/TV shows I tend to like 60s-90s animation. It has less to do with their age and more to do with the techniques that were used during those times. All the violent explosions and migraine-inducing (lazily choreographed and camera-shaky) action sequences in newer movies startle me too much. I sometimes wish they'd tone them down just a bit.

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@Zig makes a good point, the best art stimulates imagination, it doesn't shut it out. I think the hardest art for me to understand are movies, because 'show, don't tell' is a quality of the best but mixed up in that are the conventions of the time, and for some reason movie art doesn't stick to my braincells the way music does. For example, I never got Fred Astaire and Ginger Rogers movies (or many of that ilk) until the public broadcaster made a habit of putting on their movies late at night like a little festival every week. And then I noticed the conventions: how they lived in a carefree world where money was no object (or if it was, it was a humourous essential part of the plot), and the sets and dress were art deco, the plots followed a pattern with the side characters having a subplot that imitates their "betters". And a dozen other things less obvious: the way things were coloured and lit for black and white, the huge wide camera angles for dance numbers and the zooms, to say nothing of the nods to other movies that go unnoticed except by nerds! In short, I began to appreciate the language of cinema from them. But the really big thing I got from those movies was how they were like a world that almost existed. If you've ever seen Purple Rose of Cairo you'll get what I mean, that's the whole point Woody Allen was putting across. 

In just the same way music has conventions, and it shares with movies that essential quality of process; to appreciate you have to watch or listen. And music has plots too, but very few are like worlds. But music also has the ability to drop conventions and be almost more like nature than man made. I guess what I'm saying is that from this point of view, the age or conventions of a piece means less to me than what their aims, why those conventions, why those instruments etc.

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On the theme of horrid themes in modern music, here is a lovely Doris Day song from 1952, 'A Guy Is A Guy', where she is followed home by a man she doesn't know (he's probably been doing so for a while from a distance), tells her folks after he forces himself upon her for a kiss, and ends up marrying him because her parents agreed she should be married.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xk-iy6n5Ntk

 

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