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Yesterday and Today 2nd State -Fake?
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11 September 2018
12.29pm
hearhear
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I recently purchased a supposed genuine 2nd state butcher cover on-line, and I now may be regretting it. I paid a lot of money and I'm suspecting it's fake now.

When I received the album, the record was packed safely separate from the cover, which was nice. However, the package was warm to the touch since it's hot outside here and the cardboard album cover had actually buckled where the pasteover picture is on the front cover. You can see Ringo's collar through the pasteover, so it "appears" to be a 2nd state. Also, the pasteover picture has a linen texture so that part is accurate as well.

The seller swears that it's a true original, but what I don't get is the fact that the cardboard under the front pasteover part actually buckled during transit.  This tells me a couple things:

1. maybe the glue was fresh and hadn't set properly?  A fake?

OR

2. maybe the extreme heat and humidity in transit caused the cardboard to buckle under the original pasteover. Maybe after 50 years the old glue and cardboard said enough is enough and finally buckled with the heat? A real cover?

 

I'm not sure. When I saw pictures of it for sale, the cover was already very slightly warped, but when it reached me it actually looked like it was wavy and buckling, and the record would not fit inside. 

 

Your thoughts? Real or fake? 

12 September 2018
10.01pm
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Into the Sky with Diamonds
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Welcome hearhear.

I'm familiar with the 2 Butcher Cover versions (I have the less desirable of the two), but don't quite understand your issue.

If you have the primo version, nothing was ever pasted over the album. It's a pure Butcher Cover.

The second type has had the "steamer trunk" picture pasted over and then steamed off, making the album cover less pristine.

I'm guessing you have the second type?

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