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The 4 new songs from Yellow Submarine
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Where in the song "chronological order" should the 4 new songs from YS go?  In parenthesis is where I would guess

It's All Too Much (after SPLHCB album and before AYNIL single)

Only A Northern Song  (after SPLHCB album and before AYNIL single)

All Together Now  (after SPLHCB album and before AYNIL single)

Hey Bulldog (after the "Lady Madonna /The Inner Light " single and before "Hey Jude /Revolution " single) 

 

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I go by the film's release date for these songs so i'd place all 4 of them in-between Lady Madonna and Hey Jude .

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When I think of "chronological order" I think of the U.K. release date, nothing else.

 

Nov. 22 1968 White Album LP

Jan. 17 1969 Yellow Submarine LP

Apr. 11 1969 Get Back /Don't Let Me Down Single

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Doesn't it rather depend on what form of "chronological" you're looking for?

If looking for chronological in terms of release date, DO and Bongo are right. However, if looking at chronological in terms of recording order, they are wrong.

If, for instance, we look at the BBC recordings, where they fit in the chronological order is very different depending on whether you are looking at recording or release dates.

Chronologically by recording, Only A Northern Song  is part of the Pepper sessions; All Together Now and It's All Too Much , post-Pepper, predate All You Need Is Love ; while Hey Bulldog  was the last song recorded at the Lady Madonna  sessions, so comes after the single.

As I say, it depends on which type of ordering you're looking for, release or recording.

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Ron Nasty said
Chronologically by recording, Only A Northern Song  is part of the Pepper sessions; All Together Now and It's All Too Much , post-Pepper, predate All You Need Is Love ; while Hey Bulldog  was the last song recorded at the Lady Madonna  sessions, so comes after the single.

 

I originally had them tucked between White and the Get Back single, but the do sound out of place there. So I did move them chronologically by recording as you stated a-hard-days-night-ringo-8 as well as my assumption from my original post.  I just wanted some feedback. Thanks!

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Going by recording date is a bit of a PITA IMO, especially considering that some songs had their backing tracks recorded before some songs but had their overdubs recorded after those songs.

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It's easy enough, @Dark Overlord, you either go for the date they started a particular version of a song, or the date of the final overdub.

For instance, most of the Pepper outtakes I have before the Pepper album in my chronological, while Northern Song is the first song after as the last overdub came after Pepper was finished.

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Dark Overlord said
Going by recording date is a bit of a PITA IMO, especially considering that some songs had their backing tracks recorded before some songs but had their overdubs recorded after those songs.  

If it were me, I'd go by the date the song was first started. I'm fairly sure that's how Ian MacDonald does it on Revolution In The Head.

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If it were me, I'd go by the date the song was first started. I'm fairly sure that's how Ian MacDonald does it on Revolution In The Head.  

That would cause serious problems with a few songs, notably One After 909 !

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That would cause serious problems with a few songs, notably One After 909 !  

I'm sure TJ meant the start of that version of the song, and wouldn't be dating the 1969 version of One After 909  by the fact they'd tried a version in 1963 which they didn't release.

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Ron Nasty said

I'm sure TJ meant the start of that version of the song, and wouldn't be dating the 1969 version of One After 909  by the fact they'd tried a version in 1963 which they didn't release.  

That's exactly what I meant. I don't need to tell you that MacDonald (and everyone else) considers the two versions of One After 909 (1963 and 1969) as two seperate entries in the Beatles recording catalogue, probably because they began the recording from scratch when they came to re-recorded it for Let It Be .

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