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Rank the YS A Side
10 June 2020
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That's tricky. I see your point about pushing them to the bottom, basically to protest about their inlcusion on the "album", but would it be fair? I would rather go back in time and tell the Beatles to spread the four new tracks among SPLHCB and MMT, or even better, make eight to ten more songs and a complete album.
 
BUT I truly think Yellow Submarine (the track) is great and fits perfectly into Revolver . But then again, I say Revolver , I don't even listen to the YS "album" but rather consider the four new as separate tracks. I can imagine YS sounds out of place as an album opener.
 
Let's say I just rank the songs in pure quality (then again, that means e.g. for Yellow Submarine I only see it in the context of Revolver )
1. It's All Too Much
2. Hey Bulldog
3. Only A Northern Song
4. Yellow Submarine
5. All You Need Is Love
6. All Together Now (still great of course)
 
And now considering YS and AYNIL are totally out of place, which makes their quality in the right context somewhat irrelevant:
1. It's All Too Much
2. Hey Bulldog
3. Only A Northern Song
4. All Together Now
5. All You Need Is Love
6. Yellow Submarine (because YS is even more out of place on the mini-album for me than AYNIL)
 
I'm not happy with either solution, but spontaniously, if you want to go back and edit the master ranking, let's say I consider the second one my "official" ranking for this (in return I'm gonna push YS on the Revolver ranking)

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10 June 2020
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Monkberry Moon Delight said
That's tricky. I see your point about pushing them to the bottom, basically to protest about their inclusion on the "album", but would it be fair? I would rather go back in time and tell the Beatles to spread the four new tracks among SPLHCB and MMT, or even better, make eight to ten more songs and a complete album. 

There is no way they could have done this as the 4 songs were basically leftovers from 'Pepper', 'MMT' and the 'Lady Madonna ' sessions. They had just released the 'White Album ' a few weeks earlier and barely had enough new songs for the 'Get Back ' filming a few weeks later. I think they were considered sub-standard by John and Paul, hence their inclusion on 'YS'

The three 1967 songs probably should have gone on Side 2 of 'MMT' but Capitol put the previously released 1967 'A' and 'B' sides instead. 'Hey Bulldog would have been a great addition to the 'White Album '.

On CD, I think they should have been added to 'MMT' or 'Past Masters 2' and just remove the 'Yellow Submarine ' album. 

Anyway, my ranking ...

6. All Together Now - catchy little song but very slight.

5. Yellow Submarine - the better of the two children's songs and one of Ringo's highlight songs.

4. It's All Too Much - this is one I think I should like more as it is loud and brash and something completely different from George, but it is not one I play too often, maybe because it is too long and I lose a bit of interest in it before the end? Still a good song though.

3. Only A Northern Song - I always liked this one, but don't think it would have been strong enough for 'Sgt. Pepper '.

2. All You Need Is Love - maybe not their strongest single, but still pretty good.

1. Hey Bulldog - great singing, drums, bass, piano and guitar and it sounds as if John and Paul are having fun. Far too good a song to be hidden on 'YS'

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Monkberry Moon Delight said
BUT I truly think Yellow Submarine (the track) is great and fits perfectly into Revolver . But then again, I say Revolver , I don't even listen to the YS "album" but rather consider the four new as separate tracks. I can imagine YS sounds out of place as an album opener.

Finally someone who acknowledges Yellow Submarine in Revolver . I too think it ficts perfectly into that album, it was completely whacky and original, even if it wasn't sonically similar to the rest of the tracks. Great song, overhated for sure.

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Jules said

Monkberry Moon Delight said

BUT I truly think Yellow Submarine (the track) is great and fits perfectly into Revolver . But then again, I say Revolver , I don't even listen to the YS "album" but rather consider the four new as separate tracks. I can imagine YS sounds out of place as an album opener.

Finally someone who acknowledges Yellow Submarine in Revolver . I too think it ficts perfectly into that album, it was completely whacky and original, even if it wasn't sonically similar to the rest of the tracks. Great song, overhated for sure.

  

Yes, Yellow Submarine is perfect on Revolver . Sonically similar? Well, lots of songs on Revolver aren't really similar, it's their great diversity paired with a somewhat overarching tone that makes the album that good, and Yellow Submarine fits into that description about the same as Love You To or For No One or Eleanor Rigby . Regardless of what one thinks of the song, I'd say it isn't out of place.

 

Looks like I have to rank Revolver sooner than later.

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