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Ranking all the songs on With The Beatles
21 March 2019
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Wigwam said

Quarry Man's view is mine too exactly........

 

Ooops it's upside-down !!!!!!

 

(Just joking)

 

Categorically concur QM......That's rare for me.  

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"Was she told when she was young
That pain would lead to pleasure?
Did she understand it when they said
That a man must break his back
To earn his day of leisure?"

- John Lennon, "Girl"

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8 March 2020
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I'm gonna be honest, despite my relatively low ratings of the songs, I went back and listen to the album to do this, and I remember it being much worse than what I heard.

14) Not A Second Time - just one of those Beatles songs that feel like some of the single most uninspired entries throughout their catalogue. throw it in the garbage, garbage melodies, garbage execution. 1/10

13) Roll Over Beethoven - with all respect to the late genius, this was never a favourite of mine when it came to Chuck Berry songs, and the Beatles butchered it even further. it sounds flat, and for its short length, it feels long and derivative as hell. worst cover by them. 2/10

12) Devil In Her Heart - which one was that again? 2/10

11) Little Child - boring and childish, even if the right amount of energy is there. still not a fun experience. 3/10

10) Don't Bother Me - when I listen to All Things Must Pass , one of my favourite albums of all time, it makes me think that of course Paul isn't dead, it was George who died and was replaced, because he used to write such lame songs lol. 4/10

9) You Really Got A Hold On Me - it's fine, I suppose, but it wouldn't make the cut under my management. 4/10

8) Please Mr. Postman - it's great, but that's just because Please Mr. Postman is already a timeless classic, and the Beatles aren't playing the song way better than the original as it was the case on Twist And Shout , for comparison. I'll subtract points because there is no Beatles arrangement to the track, is just the Marvelette's song, but with guys singing it. 5/10

7) Hold Me Tight - decent I guess. like, I wouldn't skip it. still, not even close to their best material. 5/10

6) I Wanna Be Your Man - the lyrics are stupid and it's ok if you don't like the song because of it. but I personally always thought the instrumentation and pace of this song is one of the best recorded tracks on the early Beatles era. I just think the energy is there, and the simplicity adds to it in a weird sense. 5/10

5) All My Loving - I don't think it's overrated, I just think it's not for me. I can understand why it's a classic, I respect it, and when I went to see Paul McCartney I singed my lungs out to it. but I don't listen to it on a regular basis. 6/10

4) Till There Was You - I know it's a cover, but I think it's well executed, and kind of an odd choice to chose to make a cover on by Paul. a song from The Music Man. pretty beautiful. 6/10

3) It Won't Be Long - on the surface, it feels like a cash-in attempt on the success of She Loves You , a much better song. but taking a closer look, actually, apart from the chorus, which is terrible, the verses has some impressively decent melody progressions. I can say I like it. 6/10

2) Money (That's What I Want) - a great John vocal performance, and an interesting song to make a cover about, considering the topic. the piano motiv is great, and the vocal ad libs are great. 7/10

1) All I've Got To Do - actually beautiful. with great melodies, even if the vocal performance is a little rough. a great song, that sells the tone of the album on its best shape. a very grown up sort of writing considering the age and experience of the Beatles at that time, which was little. 8/10

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This is a copy paste:

I've been working on this for a couple of days. I decided to go on a task of continuing and updating the work of that AvecPaix guy (not gonna @tt him cause I think he's long gone) and I averaged every post in the thread to create a decent ranking of the tracks off every album. In this case With the Beatles. I clarify my process and rules below.

1 - It Won't Be Long (362 points)

2 - All My Loving (343 points)

3 - All I've Got To Do (335 points)

4 - Please Mr. Postman (285 points)

5 - You Really Got A Hold On Me (283 points)

6 - Money (That's What I Want) (271 points)

7 - Till There Was You (269 points)

8 - Don't Bother Me (237 points)

9 - Not A Second Time (198 points)

10 - Devil In Her Heart (191 points)

11 - Roll Over Beethoven (185 points)

12 - I Wanna Be Your Man (149 points)

13 - Hold Me Tight (141 points)

14 - Little Child (83 points)

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& Wigwam.

Averaging process and rules:

A pretty classic averaging system; it goes basically by giving the maximum amount of points to the top track on every post (in this case 13) and as the list progresses into the "worst" tracks each track gets one point less. The last track gets no points. For this to apply the post must have the 14 With the Beatles songs ranked.

IMPORTANT: if you think one of your rankings might have one of these ambiguous qualities that might disqualify it and you want to be counted in the averaging DON'T edit it; post it again with more detail, otherwise I won't be able to subtract the points and add them again and it won't be counted anyway.a-hard-days-night-paul-11

Particular cases:

-NO. 1- Sometimes if there is a track missing but there's a written clarification, it can be counted. In the case of Abbey Road , for instance, some people don't count Her Majesty . In that case I count the post and give no points to Her Majesty only if there is a written statement of why its missing. If one track is missing and the post doesn't have any written clarification then it is considered a mistake and therefore disqualified.

-NO. 2- The tracklist considered is taken out of the Wikipedia/RYM/Discogs "official" tracklists. This means those who rank the Abbey Road Medley as a whole don't get counted unless they clarify by writing that the tracks separately also rank that way, same with any variation of the sort.

-NO. 3- If a person implies to a previous post that "that would exactly be [their] ranking" and don't post any ranking themselves, then the points of the first person will be added a second time in behalf of the second person.

-NO. 4- Only one person each ranking. If you posted several times your changes, only the last one will be counted (unless it has any mistakes, missing tracks, etc., in that case then the last one that has no issues will be the one counted).

-NO. 5- The rankings are considered given the numbers apply to them, "1" universally represents the top spot. Unless there is a written statement that clarifies it's the other way around, this is the way it will be counted.

-NO. 6- If there are no numbers on the ranking and no written clarification it could go either way. At first I used to think the ones at the top were the number 1 spot but in some cases it just isn't that way. So I decided I'll just grab the worst rated track up to that point and I see if it falls on the top half or the bottom half. If it falls on the top half I'll consider the bottom half the top spot and if it falls on the bottom half then I'll consider the top half the top spot. It might be unfair at times as it might reverse someones' ranking if they are unlucky by voting positively a previously negatively voted track, but in the grand scheme of things I think it was mostly accurate. In case that the number of tracks is odd (A Hard Day's Night , Sgt. Pepper 's Lonely Hearts Club Band, Magical Mystery Tour , Yellow Submarine 's Side B & Abbey Road ) and the worst rated track falls in precisely the middle spot then I just take the second to worst rated and judge as to where that one falls.

-NO. 7- If there are "ties" in someone's ranking their ranking can still be counted but it won't represent exactly the ties in the overall averaging. If there is still a list-like format then I go from the bottom to the top adding points just like usual, so tied tracks can get different scores but just differing in one single point or two (unless you tie like 5 tracks together), but I think it's more fair than not letting those people participate at all. It might seem unfair but if the tied tracks were to get the same points, it would increasingly leave an averaging gap between those songs so it's mathematically better to just stick to the original adding process.

-NO. 8- If there are two tracks that are "tied" then I will just give more points to the one that is named first, regardless of descriptions, just to keep the whole thing going. Unless there's a specific written clarification of why one of the tracks is better or more of a favourite, then I'll just give more points to the one named first.

-NO. 9- However, if there's a tie between three tracks (or more) then that post will no longer be counted unless the list has a specific ranking format in which case see item "-NO. 7-".

-NO. 10- I guess that if someone doesn't want to be counted in the averaging he can ask me not to count him in but I hope nobody does that so we get his opinion tooahdn_john_08_gif

All of these rules are up to debate if someone disagrees with part of the judgement. I'm sure we can reach an agreement if they are considered questionable.

IMPORTANT: if you think one of your rankings might have one of these ambiguous qualities that might disqualify it and you want to be counted in the averaging DON'T edit it; post it again with more detail, otherwise I won't be able to subtract the points and add them again and it won't be counted anyway.a-hard-days-night-paul-11

Some more stuff:

I'll try to update it as new rankings are posted. If in enough time this proves effective then I'll ask moderators to pin these posts to the top of the thread and become OFFICIALgeorge-martin Once in a while I'll revisit the entire thread to be sure in case someone edited their previous rankings (but that might be just once in a while (unless someone wants to do it for me in which case send it to my inbox and I'll update this post)). [BTW if there is already a thread or post about this stuff then tell me right away so I can erase this and not look like a foola-hard-days-night-paul-8]

Also in time we could use this information to add some more statistics (just to give it flavourahdn_george_05). Someone can request them to me and I'll see how to add them.

Also here's a playlist with the results from worst to best in case you want to see how effective it proves in practice (I'll try edit these as well):

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