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White Album as a single disc?
3 March 2020
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Ok, being honest, I didn't fully understand what you meant but I didn't find your original reply to be anything but sincere and quite insightful, so I don't get what you're apologizing about.

Which thread was it? I would love to read about that.

I don't see this thread as just "pulling songs out of the White Album ", but to me is a sort of possibility to reimagine history in a totally different way, and pulling a totally different album (in my humble opinion, a better album) out of already excellent material.

Cheers, @sigh butterfly

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Thanks for your kind words CS. Wasn't apologizing for what I said, but for disrupting the flow of the thread with an off topic post. It's kind of funny, I've tried reimagining the album but instead of a single disk I end up with three paul-mccartney-facepalm_gif. You and mmm have got me reconsidering my prior attempts at editing though, so I might try again. For a start, I'm definitely moving Prudence to a more sheltered and supported spot among the tracks (maybe after Martha) a-hard-days-night-john-7.

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Take into account that Dear Prudence has that windy sound at the beginning that automatically ties it to Back in the U.S.S.R. Which poses another interesting question: can changes be done inside the track themselves? 'Cause in that case we could even propose the idea of interlude tracks being mixed with rehearsals of the 2018 mix, and tiny portions or tracks like the French talking at the end of I'm So Tired , or the strings at the end of Glass Onion , or Can't You Take Me Back to be removed, replaced and even repeated for some kind of leit motiv.

In that case I might even have to rethink my single version all over again.

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The thing is Prudence is tired of living in the shadow of those pesky Ukraine girls! It is her time to shine pattie-boyd_02_gif.

Seriously though, your idea about tinkering a bit using newly available material is intriguing. The Apple police are not very active right now, so we could even upload some examples. There are some talented folks on the forum that are editing whizzes george-martin.

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I've just joined and this is my first post!

I'm glad that the 'White Album ' wasn't released as a single album, as I like all the snippets and filler tracks. My least favourite tracks though are ... 'Don't Pass Me By ', Rocky Raccoon ', 'Honey Pie ' & 'Goodnight' but only because of the schmaltzy strings. The version with just the piano is lovely. I don't dislike the previously mentioned songs but they would be the ones I listen to least. The album is better jsut listening to as a whole though!

Anyway, after a great deal of deliberation ... and this selection is not set in stone .... oh, I can't find a place for a Ringo song sadly, so this album will join 'AHDN ' and 'Let It Be '. (I don't really count 'MMT' as an album?), here is my single album!

SIDE 1

1. Back In The USSR (just a great song and album opener ... bought it as a single back in mid-70s)

2. Dear Prudence (maybe my favourite song on the album and in my Top 10 Beatles songs?)

3. Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da (Not a favourite song but it is very catchy and deserves to be on the album)

4. While My Guitar Gently Weeps (just brilliant!)

5. Yer Blues (another great John song and fabulous musicianship)

6. I Will (one of Paul's catchiest, simplest melodies!)

7. Happiness Is A Warm Gun (Another favourite song and a great closer of Side 1)

SIDE 2

1. Revolution 1 (maybe not as explosive as the single version, but I like it including the backing vocals)

2. I'm So Tired (another stand out song)

3. Birthday (I love this one. Paul's vocals are fantastic. He was entering his period of outstanding vocal prowess!)

4. Savoy Truffle (just love this big and brash song!)

5. Blackbird (one of Paul's best acoustic songs)

6. Sexy Sadie (I've always liked this one but it was hard leaving out a few of the other stand out songs)

7. Helter Skelter (a blistering finale!)

So 6 John songs, 6 Paul songs (ok, 'Birthday ' is a little bit John too) and sadly only 2 of George's. I had hoped to include 'Long Long Long' too but it just didn't quite make the cut. I do enjoy listening to Revolution 9 , but it is too long for a single album, so I'm glad they stuck to releasing a double album!

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I like your tracklist but poor Ringoa-hard-days-night-ringo-7

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Love the tracklisting as is, but quite like the idea of having Helter Skelter as the last track on the album, mainly for the “when I get to the bottom I go back to the top” lyric, encouraging a never ending loop of the album. 

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Love the tracklisting as is, but quite like the idea of having Helter Skelter as the last track on the album, mainly for the “when I get to the bottom I go back to the top” lyric, encouraging a never ending loop of the album. 

Ok, I just had an idea. What about Cry Baby Cry as the last track and then you have "Can you take me back where I came from" as the looping reference? Maybe even HelTer Skelter as an opening track, and sthen you bring it full circle, given the first piece of lyric is "when I get to the obttom I go back to the top of the slide", Helter Skelter being the top of the slide. (You can put Back in the U.S.S.R./Dear Prudence as a side B opener?)

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Jules said

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Love the tracklisting as is, but quite like the idea of having Helter Skelter as the last track on the album, mainly for the “when I get to the bottom I go back to the top” lyric, encouraging a never ending loop of the album. 

Ok, I just had an idea. What about Cry Baby Cry as the last track and then you have "Can you take me back where I came from" as the looping reference? Maybe even HelTer Skelter as an opening track, and sthen you bring it full circle, given the first piece of lyric is "when I get to the obttom I go back to the top of the slide", Helter Skelter being the top of the slide. (You can put Back in the U.S.S.R./Dear Prudence as a side B opener?)

  

Love it, even better. 

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The only thing I'd change: Swap Yer Blues with Revolution 1 and then substitute the latter with Not Guilty .

 

Then we'd have on Disc 2/Side 3:

1. Birthday

2. Not Guilty

3. Mother Nature's Son

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8. Yer Blues

 

Yes the only track I would swap out is Revolution 1 , not 9...

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I have never wanted to boil it down to a single LP, I love the sprawl of the double. But the spirited discussion here inspired me to think about it. Like others, I don't have a Ringo vocal here. That's an issue. But other than that, I think you can edit it down to one disc with a good John/Paul/George balance, good pacing, etc. My side one has 8 songs and side 2 has 7. Side one clocks in at about 22 and a half minutes, side 2 at 23 and a half.

Side One:

1. Back In The USSR - just a great album opener, with the jet sound effects.

2. Everybody's Got Something To Hide - keeping the energy going....

3. I Will - lovely melody and a change of pace

4. I'm So Tired - already a great transition from I Will , let's keep it that way

5. Mother Nature's Son - ironic sequencing here with what follows

6. Sexy Sadie - an underrated masterpiece

7. While My Guitar Gently Weeps - totally amazing, maybe my personal favorite on the album

8. Happiness Is A Warm Gun - a masterpiece, classic side closer

Side Two:

1. Birthday - a great side opener.

2. Yer Blues - just an absolute crusher

3. Blackbird - one of Paul's all time best, from my perspective

4. Julia - beautiful

5. Long, Long, Long - incredible drumming and atmosphere, another one of my White Album favorites

6. Helter Skelter - picking up the pace

7. Dear Prudence - leaving on a high note, one of the greatest songs in the entire catalogue

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Try as you might, but reducing the White Album down to just one disk leaves you with another problem - what to do with the tracks not selected? Some of your rejected tracks deserve recognition and not just relegated to B-sides. The Beatles might have done themselves a favor by releasing two separate albums, with the second album being released 3 or 4 months after the first one. But in doing so, they would need to be sure that both albums were equal in quality. Which gets us back to the exercise we are engaging in here. So my questions for all of you are:

Would each of the disks, as they are now, be as good if released separately?

If each disk were to be released separately, would you make any swaps between albums?

Personally, I think each album would be excellent as stand-alones, with these exceptions: Take Wild Honey Pie , Why Don't We Do It In The Road and Revolution 9 and put them in the vault. Instead, make room for Not Guilty or other songs that George Harrison might have wanted to record.

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Take Why Don't We Do It In The Road and put them in the vault. 

  

I've got an even better idea: Take Why Don't We Do It In The Road? and put in on Abbey Road , let it slightly fade into another similar snippet and call them and the 2 to 3 next songs a "medley", and suddenly everyone on the world is gonna love it. 😉

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Monkberry Moon Delight said

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Take Why Don't We Do It In The Road and put them in the vault. 

I've got an even better idea: Take Why Don't We Do It In The Road? and put in on Abbey Road , let it slightly fade into another similar snippet and call them and the 2 to 3 next songs a "medley", and suddenly everyone on the world is gonna love it. 😉  

If you took a bridge out of a song that's beloved (say "Girl" for instance) and made it its own song everybody would stop liking it. But given it's inside another song that has a lot of better stuff going for it, the transition seems fitting. Your hate on the Abbey Road Medley for having "sub-par" music on it I'm not saying it isn't justified, but thinking other people liking it because of context are wrong is kind of numb. Mean Mr. Mustard and Polythene Pam are excellent transitions. And the overall experience feels like a journey, and that's what it ultimately comes down to. Just like any album that has a "weak" track. I don't think Why Don't We Do It in the Road? fits Abbey Road at all. It's just too repetitive and blues-ish.

Although I will agree I don't like it when people compare the Abbey Road Medley fully to other Beatles songs because they are clearly dfferent compositions. Especially there being no connection between She Came In Through The Bathroom Window and Golden Slumbers . If you ask me, the Abbey Road tracklist should be either like this:

Or like this:

a-hard-days-night-ringo-8Which is rightfully the official tracklist, and there's not hint at all for a "medley" anywhere. Songs should be connected directly for it to be a medley, not just some vague sounds, otherwise Sgt. Pepper 's Lonely Hearts Club Band/With A Little Help From My Friends or Back in the U.S.S.R./Dear Prudence are medleys. Also, there's a Here Comes The Sun lyrical reference on Sun King , as well as melodical similarities between Because and You Never Give Me Your Money . So Side B might as well be a medley as a wholemccartney-shrug_01_gif

Well, anyway

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Don't put Why Don't We Do It in the Road? on Abbey Road , I don't agree, I disagreeahdn_paul_01a-hard-days-night-ringo-15

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Side One

1. Back in the U.S.S.R.

2. Dear Prudence

3. Glass Onion

4. Ob-La-Di Ob-La-Da  (the first four songs in sequence work beautifully; why mess with perfection?)

5. I'm So Tired (an inside joke...John was fed up with recording Ob-La-Di, with so many takes)

6. I Will

7. While My Guitar Gently Weeps

8. Cry Baby Cry (two songs about "crying" in a row)

 

Side Two

1. Revolution 1

2. Blackbird (about the Civil Rights Movement...another "Revolution ") 

3. Don't Pass Me By (Ringo has to have a song, even though it's not among the best)

4. [I'm leaving this one open for discussion:  possibility a:  Savoy Truffle , to get another George Song in; b:  Yer Blues ...a response to being "passed by"

    c:  put "Julia " after Blackbird before DPMB]

5:  Sexy Sadie [or make Sexy Sadie Song #4 and put "Honey Pie " here to set up one of the most jarring contrasts ever...or not]

6:  Helter Skelter

7:  Good Night [if this counts at "The" Ringo song, then I guess #3 could be Julia followed by Savoy Truffle ]

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This is a really hard. If it would been a 14-track LP with the official releases it would be in my opinion like this:

 

Side One

1) Back In The U.S.S.R.

2) Dear Prudence

3) Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da

4) While My Guitar Gently Weeps

5) Happiness Is A Warm Gun

6) I'm So Tired

7) Don't Pass Me By

Side Two

1) Birthday

2) Yer Blues

3) Helter Skelter

4) Sexy Sadie

5) Savoy Truffle

6) Cry Baby Cry

7) Revolution 1

 

But, if i include the outtakes, singles, unreleased songs the order will change like this:

SIDE ONE:

1) Not Guilty

2) Revolution

3) Back In The U.S.S.R.

4) While My Guitar Gently Weeps

5) Happiness Is A Warm Gun

6) Yer Blues

7) Helter Skelter

SIDE TWO:

8) Dear Prudence

9) Cry Baby Cry

10) Mother Nature's Son

11) I Will

12) Julia

13) I'm So Tired

14) What's The New Mary Jane

 

Well i loved the double album, but i may put the rest out of the songs in their continuation: The Whiter Album as Ringo said it on Anthology

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Oof, ten years have passed since I made this list? Wow.

I still think most of the first list I did would be my go-to single disc White Album , but I would make small changes to the second side.

Side One

01) Back In The U.S.S.R.

02) Dear Prudence

03) Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da

04) While My Guitar Gently Weeps

05) Happiness Is A Warm Gun

06) I'm So Tired

07) Don't Pass Me By

Side Two

08) Birthday

09) Yer Blues

10) Mother Nature's Son

11) Helter Skelter

12) Long, Long, Long

13) Revolution 1

 

Then I would follow Ringo's suggestion of ''The Whiter Album'' consisting of:

Side One

01) Glass Onion

02) Martha My Dear

03) Blackbird

04) Piggies

05) Rocky Raccoon

06) I Will

07) Julia

Side Two

08) Everybody's Got Something To Hide Except Me And My Monkey

09) Sexy Sadie

10) Honey Pie

11) Savoy Truffle

12) Cry Baby Cry

13) Good Night

(No 14th track here)

And perhaps a third album ''The Whitest Album'' can be compiled from the rest plus other recorded songs/demos during the sessions:

Side One

01) Not Guilty

02) Wild Honey Pie

03) The Continuing Story Of Bungalow Bill

04) Why Don't We Do It On The Road

05) Revolution 9

06) What's The New Mary Jane

Side Two

07) Sour Milk Sea

08) Junk

09) Child Of Nature

10) Circles

11) Revolution

12) Hey Jude

 

Probably will go back to this in another ten years, if the site and me are still around, and if my opinion has changed from today. ahdn_john_08_gifjohn-lennon-salute_gif

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