Please consider registering
Guest
sp_LogInOut Log Insp_Registration Register
Register | Lost password?
Advanced Search
Forum Scope


Match



Forum Options



Minimum search word length is 3 characters - maximum search word length is 84 characters
sp_Feed sp_TopicIcon
Where Does "Cry Baby Cry" End?
28 July 2016
12.21am
Avatar
William Shears Campbell
Somewhere In The Black Mountain Hills Of Utah
Rishikesh
Members
Forum Posts: 3629
Member Since:
14 June 2016
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

meanmistermustard said
So is the ‘Get Back ‘ coda part of ‘Get Back ‘? Was always part of the song yet Apple cut it from ‘Let It Be… Naked’. Suppose that take did break down but still, the point remains – Apple are idiots.   

I may be wrong, but I think that the “Get Back ” coda was originally the “Get Back (Reprise)” from when the “Let it Be” album was the “Get Back ” album.  When Phil Specter remixed the tracks for the final “LIB ” cut he probably just put the “GB” and “GB(R)” tracks together.  Because LIB … Naked” was made in order to release a version of “LIB ” that didn’t have Specter’s mixes, they probably removed the coda part(or the “GB(R)” section) to make it the version of Get Back that was meant for the “LIB ” album.

Here | There | Everywhere

It's ya boi!  The one and only Billy Shears (AKA Paul's Replacement)

"Sometimes I wish I was just George Harrison" - John Lennon

 

28 July 2016
4.14am
Avatar
meanmistermustard
Thankfully not where I am.
Moderator
Members

Reviewers


Moderators
Forum Posts: 24937
Member Since:
1 May 2011
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

William Shears Campbell said

I may be wrong, but I think that the “Get Back ” coda was originally the “Get Back (Reprise)” from when the “Let it Be” album was the “Get Back ” album.  When Phil Specter remixed the tracks for the final “LIB ” cut he probably just put the “GB” and “GB(R)” tracks together.  Because LIB … Naked” was made in order to release a version of “LIB ” that didn’t have Specter’s mixes, they probably removed the coda part(or the “GB(R)” section) to make it the version of Get Back that was meant for the “LIB ” album.  

It was the ‘Get Back (reprise)’ on Johns early compilations but the coda was always part of the song (see ‘Anthology 3 ‘) and is on the 1969 single, created long before Spector got involved. Spector cut the coda, editing on the “I hope we passed the audition” rooftop section in its place. 

If ‘LIBN’ had of been “Naked” without a thousand other edits, overdubs and Frankenstein creations i’d get the way it’s presented but its not. At least let the performance there end naturally instead of simply lopping it off/fading early – but Apple can’t have Beatles mistakes and breakdowns on records nowadays in case it turns them from one of if not the greatest band ever to hopeless musicians in the space of 3 seconds.

"I told you everything I could about me, Told you everything I could" ('Before Believing' - Emmylou Harris)

28 July 2016
12.19pm
Avatar
William Shears Campbell
Somewhere In The Black Mountain Hills Of Utah
Rishikesh
Members
Forum Posts: 3629
Member Since:
14 June 2016
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

meanmistermustard said

It was the ‘Get Back (reprise)’ on Johns early compilations but the coda was always part of the song (see ‘Anthology 3 ‘) and is on the 1969 single, created long before Spector got involved. Spector cut the coda, editing on the “I hope we passed the audition” rooftop section in its place. 

If ‘LIBN’ had of been “Naked” without a thousand other edits, overdubs and Frankenstein creations i’d get the way it’s presented but its not. At least let the performance there end naturally instead of simply lopping it off/fading early – but Apple can’t have Beatles mistakes and breakdowns on records nowadays in case it turns them from one of if not the greatest band ever to hopeless musicians in the space of 3 seconds.  

Well I did say I could be wrong.  I never realized that the coda was not in the “LIB ” version of “Get Back “, I guess I never really paid that much attention to it.  I suppose that’s the reason the coda isn’t in the “LIB …N” version of “Get Back “.
 

Here | There | Everywhere

It's ya boi!  The one and only Billy Shears (AKA Paul's Replacement)

"Sometimes I wish I was just George Harrison" - John Lennon

 

28 July 2016
12.50pm
Avatar
meanmistermustard
Thankfully not where I am.
Moderator
Members

Reviewers


Moderators
Forum Posts: 24937
Member Since:
1 May 2011
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

The reason it is not on ‘LIBN’ is because the take broke down which is all well and good and naked (albeit they cut it before we could hear that). But don’t then stitch together two performances of ‘Don’t Let Me Down ‘ together or ‘I’ve Got A Feeling ‘ to create new ones or add 1970 overdubs onto ‘Let It Be ‘ (also edited) and ‘For You Blue ‘ or compile a new extended edit of ‘I Me Mine ‘.

It’s not Naked, its fully clothed with extra make-up troweled on to hide any blemishes.  The whole album is built and promoted on what is clearly bullshit and I hate it for that reason. Apple should have had the balls to give us one of the original compilations but didn’t, instead we got a pile of manufactured nonsense that was even further away from the original concept than what Spector created in 1970.

And we are off topic.

"I told you everything I could about me, Told you everything I could" ('Before Believing' - Emmylou Harris)

28 July 2016
1.02pm
Avatar
William Shears Campbell
Somewhere In The Black Mountain Hills Of Utah
Rishikesh
Members
Forum Posts: 3629
Member Since:
14 June 2016
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

meanmistermustard said
The reason it is not on ‘LIBN’ is because the take broke down which is all well and good and naked (albeit they cut it before we could hear that). But don’t then stitch together two performances of ‘Don’t Let Me Down ‘ together or ‘I’ve Got A Feeling ‘ to create new ones or add 1970 overdubs onto ‘Let It Be ‘ (also edited) and ‘For You Blue ‘ or compile a new extended edit of ‘I Me Mine ‘.

It’s not Naked, its fully clothed with extra make-up troweled on to hide any blemishes.  The whole album is built and promoted on what is clearly bullshit and I hate it for that reason. Apple should have had the balls to give us one of the original compilations but didn’t, instead we got a pile of manufactured nonsense that was even further away from the original concept than what Spector created in 1970.

And we are off topic.  

I honestly have never listened to “LIB …N”, I just took your word for it that the coda wasn’t in there.  Anyway, where does Cry Baby Cry end?

Here | There | Everywhere

It's ya boi!  The one and only Billy Shears (AKA Paul's Replacement)

"Sometimes I wish I was just George Harrison" - John Lennon

 

23 October 2016
11.32pm
Avatar
William Shears Campbell
Somewhere In The Black Mountain Hills Of Utah
Rishikesh
Members
Forum Posts: 3629
Member Since:
14 June 2016
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

I was thinking about this the other day and I thought about the fact that “Can You Take Me Back” had to be part of either “Cry Baby Cry ” or “Revolution 9 ” and not be its own seperate song because it’s not listed on the tracklist of the LP. Then I started to think about Two Virgins , and it’s tracklist, and how it was sorta meaningless because no one knew where each track began or ended.  It was so meaningless that the CD’s tracks were just Side One and Side Two. While usually you can tell on a record where each track begins or ends, tracklists are very arbitrary, and usually records are meant to be listened to as a whole piece of art.  I guess kinda the point lots of people already made on here.

 

Completely ignoring the point I just made, if I had to pick a track to put “Can You Take Me Back” on, I’d pick “Cry Baby Cry ” and not “Revolution 9 “.  I can see why they put CYTMB right after CBC, and put it with CBC and not R9 on the 2009 remasters.  Giving it a listen, CYTMB sounds similar to CBC in a different key.

Here | There | Everywhere

It's ya boi!  The one and only Billy Shears (AKA Paul's Replacement)

"Sometimes I wish I was just George Harrison" - John Lennon

 

24 October 2016
4.03am
Avatar
Sugarplum fairy
Royal Command Performance
Members
Forum Posts: 241
Member Since:
3 August 2014
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

William Shears Campbell said

  Anyway, where does Cry Baby Cry end?  

For me CBC is separate and it ends on that little stray piano note which some people don’t even notice.

13 December 2017
5.09pm
Avatar
Father McKenzie
Liverpool England
Candlestick Park
Members
Forum Posts: 1544
Member Since:
14 November 2017
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

It ends after Paul’s bit (Can you take me back where I came from). I always wondered what that was supposed to be about. I’ve heard the theory that it was Faul saying he was bored of being Paul, and he wanted to go back to being a regular guy again. It’s just weird that Revolution 9 starts straight after Paul’s bit, and Revolution 9 was supposed to include Paul is Dead clues (such as hitting a light pole, going to see a surgeon,the sound of flames burning,in reference to the supposed car accident,where Paul was decapitated, and they had to identify him through dental records-a pair of teeth are mentioned during the song). All very strange…..

Still writing the words to the sermon that no one will hear......

13 December 2017
5.24pm
Avatar
Ahhh Girl
sailing on a winedark open sea
Moderator

Moderators

Members

Reviewers
Forum Posts: 22182
Member Since:
20 August 2013
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

The following people thank Ahhh Girl for this post:

Father McKenzie
Forum Timezone: Europe/London
Most Users Ever Online: 700
Currently Online: Sea Belt
Guest(s) 1
Top Posters:
Starr Shine?: 16105
Ron Nasty: 12534
Zig: 9832
50yearslate: 8759
Necko: 8041
AppleScruffJunior: 7583
parlance: 7111
mr. Sun king coming together: 6402
Mr. Kite: 6147
trcanberra: 6064
Member Stats:
Guest Posters: 88
Members: 2853
Moderators: 5
Admins: 1
Forum Stats:
Groups: 3
Forums: 44
Topics: 5500
Posts: 380144
Newest Members:
JS2024, Orchid837, john1958, freeze_trax, darwinsrefutation
Moderators: Joe: 5686, meanmistermustard: 24937, Ahhh Girl: 22182, Beatlebug: 18172, The Hole Got Fixed: 8410
Administrators: Joe: 5686