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Ranking all 30 songs from The White Album
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THE BEATLES (1968) AVERAGED RANK

This is a copy paste:

I decided to go on a task of continuing and updating list of every post averaged in the thread to create a decent ranking of the tracks off every album. In this case The Beatles. I clarify my process and rules below.

1 – Happiness Is a Warm Gun (756 points)

2 – Dear Prudence (679 points)

3 – While My Guitar Gently Weeps (666 points)

4 – Blackbird (610 points)

5 – I’m So Tired (589 points)

6 – Helter Skelter (581 points)

7 – Back in the U.S.S.R. (536 points)

8 – Sexy Sadie (507 points)

9 – Martha My Dear (487 points)

10 – I Will (465 points)

11 – Yer Blues (464 points)

12 – Glass Onion (463 points)

13 – Savoy Truffle (420 points)

14 – Everybody’s Got Something to Hide Except Me and My Monkey (409 points)

15 – Cry Baby Cry (407 points)

16 – Long, Long, Long (402 points)

17 –  Revolution 1 (396 points)

18 – Mother Nature’s Son (384 points)

19 – Julia (382 points)

20 – Birthday (337 points)

21 – Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da (321 points)

22 – Rocky Raccoon (308 points)

23 – Honey Pie (276 points)

24 – Piggies (258 points)

25 – The Continuing Story of Bungalow Bill (257 points)

26 – Don’t Pass Me By (185 points)

27 – Why Don’t We Do It in the Road? (184 points)

28 – Good Night (179 points)

29 – Revolution 9 (161 points)

30 – Wild Honey Pie (100 points)

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Averaging process and rules:

A pretty classic averaging system; it goes basically by giving the maximum amount of points to the top track on every post (in this case 29) and as the list progresses into the “worst” tracks each track gets one point less. The last track gets no points. For this to apply the post must have the 30 The Beatles songs ranked.

IMPORTANT: if you think one of your rankings might have one of these ambiguous qualities that might disqualify it and you want to be counted in the averaging DON’T edit it; post it again with more detail, otherwise I won’t be able to subtract the points and add them again and it won’t be counted anyway.a-hard-days-night-paul-11

Particular cases:

-NO. 1- Sometimes if there is a track missing but there’s a written clarification, it can be counted. In the case of Abbey Road , for instance, some people don’t count Her Majesty . In that case I count the post and give no points to Her Majesty only if there is a written statement of why its missing. If one track is missing and the post doesn’t have any written clarification then it is considered a mistake and therefore disqualified.

-NO. 2- The tracklist considered is taken out of the Wikipedia/RYM/Discogs “official” tracklists. This means those who rank the Abbey Road Medley as a whole don’t get counted unless they clarify by writing that the tracks separately also rank that way, same with any variation of the sort.

-NO. 3- If a person implies to a previous post that “that would exactly be [their] ranking” and don’t post any ranking themselves, then the points of the first person will be added a second time in behalf of the second person.

-NO. 4- Only one person each ranking. If you posted several times your changes, only the last one will be counted (unless it has any mistakes, missing tracks, etc., in that case then the last one that has no issues will be the one counted).

-NO. 5- The rankings are considered given the numbers apply to them, “1” universally represents the top spot. Unless there is a written statement that clarifies it’s the other way around, this is the way it will be counted.

-NO. 6- If there are no numbers on the ranking and no written clarification it could go either way. At first I used to think the ones at the top were the number 1 spot but in some cases it just isn’t that way. So I decided I’ll just grab the worst rated track up to that point and I see if it falls on the top half or the bottom half. If it falls on the top half I’ll consider the bottom half the top spot and if it falls on the bottom half then I’ll consider the top half the top spot. It might be unfair at times as it might reverse someones’ ranking if they are unlucky by voting positively a previously negatively voted track, but in the grand scheme of things I think it was mostly accurate. In case that the number of tracks is odd (A Hard Day’s Night , Sgt. Pepper ‘s Lonely Hearts Club Band, Magical Mystery Tour , Yellow Submarine ‘s Side B & Abbey Road ) and the worst rated track falls in precisely the middle spot then I just take the second to worst rated and judge as to where that one falls.

-NO. 7- If there are “ties” in someone’s ranking their ranking can still be counted but it won’t represent exactly the ties in the overall averaging. If there is still a list-like format then I go from the bottom to the top adding points just like usual, so tied tracks can get different scores but just differing in one single point or two (unless you tie like 5 tracks together), but I think it’s more fair than not letting those people participate at all. It might seem unfair but if the tied tracks were to get the same points, it would increasingly leave an averaging gap between those songs so it’s mathematically better to just stick to the original adding process.

-NO. 8- If there are two tracks that are “tied” then I will just give more points to the one that is named first, regardless of descriptions, just to keep the whole thing going. Unless there’s a specific written clarification of why one of the tracks is better or more of a favourite, then I’ll just give more points to the one named first.

-NO. 9- However, if there’s a tie between three tracks (or more) then that post will no longer be counted unless the list has a specific ranking format in which case see item “-NO. 7-“.

-NO. 10- I guess that if someone doesn’t want to be counted in the averaging he can ask me not to count him in but I hope nobody does that so we get his opinion tooahdn_john_08_gif

All of these rules are up to debate if someone disagrees with part of the judgement. I’m sure we can reach an agreement if they are considered questionable.

IMPORTANT: if you think one of your rankings might have one of these ambiguous qualities that might disqualify it and you want to be counted in the averaging DON’T edit it; post it again with more detail, otherwise I won’t be able to subtract the points and add them again and it won’t be counted anyway.a-hard-days-night-paul-11

Also here’s a playlist with the results from worst to best in case you want to see how effective it proves in practice (I’ll try edit these as well):

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Granted, I’ve only been a big-time Beatles fan for less than a year, so my opinions are liable to change.  But here’s the scoreboard so far.

  1. Still My Guitar Gently Weeps — My favorite Beatles song.  This masterpiece just speaks for itself.
  2. Happiness Is A Warm Gun — Dreamy, orgasmic, subdued, bitter, witty.  That’s Lennon.
  3. Helter Skelter — Excellent hard abrasive rock song.  Should’ve been the 1st or 2nd track.
  4. Revolution 1 — Pretty iconic, listenable, acknowledge’s the bands place in the counterculture.
  5. Piggies — This may be most angelic gorgeous little passive-aggressive piece ever.
  6. Back In The USSR — This is the frantic energetic Paul that I love.
  7. Dear Prudence — Has a nice grungy sound.
  8. Blackbird — The best of the soft acoustic tracks.
  9. Everybody’s Got Something To Hide — This is Lennon being punchy.  I really like it.
  10. Long, Long, Long
  11. I’m So Tired — The relateable story of a burnt out addict.
  12. Birthday — A solid rock song.
  13. Mother Nature’s Son
  14. Sexy Sadie
  15. The Continuing Story Of Bungalow Bill — It’s unique, good lyrics, catchy hook.  Underrated.
  16. Yer Blues — They got this mock-tune in just before the rise of Led Zeppelin.
  17. Glass Onion — Kinda cool.
  18. Cry Baby Cry
  19. Julia
  20. Savoy Truffle — It’s a well-done song but I still need to break into it.
  21. Wild Honey Pie — It’s bizarre, slap-happy, boisterous, gets a little too much hate.
  22. Revolution 9 — Experimental, strange.  Interesting for what it’s worth.
  23. Good Night — It’s really beautiful but the execution is shaky.
  24. I Will — Generic
  25. Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da – Was this seriously the longest song to make?
  26. Why Don’t We Do It In The Road?
  27. Don’t Pass Me By — Ringo’s singing is just off here
  28. Martha My Dear
  29. Honey Pie — zzz….
  30. Rocky Raccoon

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You’re one of the few that doesn’t have Revolution 9 dead last haha.   I’m with you though, I find it interesting.  

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There is worse material on the ‘White Album ‘ than ‘Revolution 9 ‘. ‘The Continually Dull Story of Bungalow Bill’ being one.

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meanmistermustard said
There is worse material on the ‘White Album ‘ than ‘Revolution 9 ‘. 

Ha-ha, I think most will disagree with you buddy!  a-hard-days-night-paul-11Every time I “try” to listen to it, I just cannot get through it.  It’s just noise. paul-mccartney

To the Op, I can’t believe you rate 8 songs lower than Rev 9 a-hard-days-night-ringo-14

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Wonder why people like ranks so much?

Revolution 9 is better than Wild Honey Pie .

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Bongo said

meanmistermustard said
There is worse material on the ‘White Album ‘ than ‘Revolution 9 ‘. 

Ha-ha, I think most will disagree with you buddy!  a-hard-days-night-paul-11Every time I “try” to listen to it, I just cannot get through it.  It’s just noise. paul-mccartney

To the Op, I can’t believe you rate 8 songs lower than Rev 9 a-hard-days-night-ringo-14

At least Revolution 9 is unique.  I’d take that over a generic-Paul-song like Honey Pie and the head scratcher known as Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da

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Revolution 9 ‘ is very good at what its meant to be; the problem is that most people approach it as a song and treat it as such when its not. I’d rather have a sound collage that produces some thought and feeling upon listening than dull tracks that do nothing more than bug me.

Personally i’d take ‘Revolution 9 ‘ above ‘Birthday ‘, ‘Julia ‘ (aside from one verse), ‘Good Night ‘ and ‘Bungalow Bill’ if I had to opt between them. Some days i’d take it above ‘Ob-La-Di/Da’. I’m firmly in the ‘Wild Honey Pie ‘ fan club what with my membership card, badge and recipe pamphlet. 

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meanmistermustard said
I’m firmly in the ‘Wild Honey Pie ‘ fan club what with my membership card, badge and recipe pamphlet. 

Can I join?

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I can never remember what Julia sounds like. My brain switches over to Martha My Dear or I Will .

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Derek_Francis said

meanmistermustard said
I’m firmly in the ‘Wild Honey Pie ‘ fan club what with my membership card, badge and recipe pamphlet. 

Can I join?

Yip. Free to join. Not that I can remember who is running it nowadays. Someone here must know.

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meanmistermustard said
There is worse material on the ‘White Album ‘ than ‘Revolution 9 ‘. ‘The Continually Dull Story of Bungalow Bill’ being one.

I actually enjoy The Continuing Story Of Bungalow Bill , well better than Revolution 9 ! But, I’m not saying Rev. 9 is the worst. Since I haven’t given my best listen yet and taken all the songs in much yet, I’ll make a ranking when I can/have the effort to

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meanmistermustard said

Derek_Francis said

meanmistermustard said
I’m firmly in the ‘Wild Honey Pie ‘ fan club what with my membership card, badge and recipe pamphlet. 

Can I join?

Yip. Free to join. Not that I can remember who is running it nowadays. Someone here must know.

Y’know, I think I joined at some point a way while back, but I can’t remember ahdn_paul_01

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There’s an automatically-generated Facebook page for Wild Honey Pie and about sixty-five people like it.  

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Looks like @Pineapple Records in his earlier personna as Funny Paper suggested the Wild Honey Pie Fan Club. https://www.beatlesbible.com/f…..-3/#p82884

Then a few pages later… https://www.beatlesbible.com/f…..-5/#p84053

Then there is this interesting post. https://www.beatlesbible.com/f…..-9/#p93965

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How come nobody else, except for Derek Francis, has ranked all the songs on this album? I just did it, and it turned out to be much easier than ranking the songs on Pepper or With the Beatles (the other two I have ranked the songs on so far). Here is my list (italics indicate that I picked the song as one of the 14 in the “White Album as a single disc” thread):

  1. While My Guitar Gently Weeps
  2. I Will
  3. Happiness Is A Warm Gun
  4. Martha My Dear
  5. Dear Prudence
  6. Yer Blues
  7. Cry Baby Cry (with Can You Take Me Back)
  8. Blackbird
  9. Everybody’s Got Something To Hide Except Me And My Monkey
  10. Revolution 1
  11. Helter Skelter
  12. Sexy Sadie
  13. Long, Long, Long
  14. Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da
  15. I’m So Tired
  16. Savoy Truffle
  17. Piggies
  18. Rocky Raccoon
  19. Revolution 9
  20. Back In The USSR
  21. Glass Onion
  22. Good Night
  23. Honey Pie
  24. The Continuing Story Of Bungalow Bill
  25. Why Don’t We Do It in the Road
  26. Don’t Pass Me By
  27. Birthday
  28. Mother Nature’s Son
  29. Julia
  30. Wild Honey Pie

One interesting thing I just realised about the list above is that it has only 5 Paul songs on the upper half and only 5 John songs on the lower half. I hope it doesn’t seem like dislike Paul, because i don’t. As you can see, half of my top 4 on The White Album are Paul songs.

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listen to birthday again. sing along as loud as you can. i’m sure it will move up on your list. very fun song

my ranking:

Sexy Sadie

Happiness Is A Warm Gun

Cry Baby Cry

Martha My Dear

im so tired

While My Guitar Gently Weeps

Rocky Raccoon

blackbird

Glass Onion

Yer Blues

Savoy Truffle

birthday

Revolution 1

long long long

Dear Prudence

i will

Back In The USSR

The Continuing Story Of Bungalow Bill

mother natures son

Honey Pie

ob la di ob la da

Piggies

everybodys got something to hide

goodnight

Julia

helter skelter

why don’t we do it in the road

Wild Honey Pie

Revolution 9

dont pass me by

 

and i think john totally killed on the White Album . no offense paul

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sir walter raleigh said
listen to birthday again. sing along as loud as you can. i’m sure it will move up on your list. very fun song

I have listened to that song a lot and I often enjoy it, but there is something about it that annoys me a little. I think it’s repetitive and I don’t like the lyrics that much, probably because I’m not a big fan of birthday parties. Anyway, one day I might have change my opinion on that song. There are songs, both by The Beatles and others, that I really disliked before that are among my favourites now.

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