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What do you consider the last "early" Beatles album? (Classify the Beatles albums by era)
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I agree with AHDN being the last early album, glad someone else thinks so.

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I agree with AHDN being the last early album, glad someone else thinks so.

Exactly!  It just sounds like Beatlemania, before all the drugs and experimentation kicked in.

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I think there is already a thread like this but I'll add to your thread to so when this is locked, your post will have a friend

 

Early: Please Please Me , With The Beatles , A Hard Days Night

 

Middle: Beatles For Sale , Help , Rubber Soul ,

 

Next Middle: Revolver , Pepper, Magical Mystery Tour

 

End: White Album , Yellow Submarine *, Abbey Road , Let it Be

 

* This feels more like next middle

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Little Babies: Please Please Me , With the Beatles, A Hard Day's Night

Not Quite Folk Music: Beatles For Sale , Help !, Rubber Soul

Psychadeclecticastical: Revolver , Sgt. Pepper 's Lonely Hearts Club Band, Magical Mystery Tour

Honorary Psychadeclecticastical: Yellow Submarine  

Big Boy Grown Ups: The White Album , Let It Be , Abbey Road

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I got to the thread before Google did so I brought the posts over.

It is interesting to see what people have done with the claasifications.

Big Boy Grown Ups and Piggies , Bungalow Bill, and Rocky Raccoon . Very interesting.

I liked your topic title, Derek_Francis, so I incorporated it into this thread's title.

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Ahhh Girl said
I got to the thread before Google did so I brought the posts over.

It is interesting to see what people have done with the claasifications.

Big Boy Grown Ups and Piggies , Bungalow Bill, and Rocky Raccoon . Very interesting.

I liked your topic title, @derek-francis, so I incorporated it into this thread's title.

I'll take this opportunity to plug the Thread Search Thread. If you wonder if we have a discussion that matches your thoughts, we will help you look to see if one exists.

Does only moving one post affect google?

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If we move a post before Google indexes it, no broken link/url occurs. If there are three (or whatever number) replies to a post, as long as Google hasn't "found" them yet, they can be moved safely.

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Ahhh Girl said
If we move a post before Google indexes it, no broken link/url occurs. If there are three (or whatever number) replies to a post, as long as Google hasn't "found" them yet, they can be moved safely.

So it's more than just the thread indexed but each individual post is indexed as well?

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That is correct as far as I understand it. Each post has a unique number at the end of the url.

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Big Boy Grown Ups and Piggies , Bungalow Bill, and Rocky Raccoon . Very interesting.

Those are three big boy grown up songs with big boy grown up themes, even though it may not seem that way. Piggies is a social commentary on greed and class differences; The Continuing Story Of Bungalow Bill is a song about a murderer; Rocky Raccoon is a story about jealousy and greed. 

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^ well-stated. apple01

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Early Period:  PPM , WTB, AHDN , BFS

Transitional Period:  Help !, RS, Revolver

Full Studio/LSD/Spiritual Period:  SPLHCB , MMT, TB(TWA), YS

Early Return/Breakup Period:  [GB], AR, LIB

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I'd agree on Please Please Me , With the Beatles, and A Hard Day's Night being 'Early Beatles'. Beatles For Sale could go either way for me. There are some definite 'Early' songs on there, but then there are also some that are far more advanced and fit in better with the 'Transitional' era. I doubt anyone will disagree that Help ! Rubber Soul , and Revolver can be grouped together even though Help ! also still has some 'Early' songs, so...

Things obviously got serious with Sgt Pepper , Magical Mystery Tour , and the White Album . Technically speaking, Yellow Submarine should be in that category as well though there are too few new songs and too many Sir George arrangements on there to qualify as a full-fledged Beatles album to me.

Abbey Road and Let It Be are a league of their own. It's not psychedelia anymore, it's not quite back to the roots either. I don't know where to put them. Perhaps they're too unique to fit into a box anyway.

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This is how I always look at it: 

Please Please Me / With (Meet) The Beatles / AHDN  and everything leading up to Beatles For Sale - Early

Beatles For Sale / Rubber Soul / Help ! / Revolver and everything up to that - Transitional

Sgt Pepper / Magical Mystery Tour / Yellow Submarine - Middle or maybe what you'd call the psychedelic period

The Beatles (White Album ) / Abbey Road / Let It Be - Late / End 

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I would make the cut-off at Help ! Not to say Help isn't an advanced album with complex music and themes, because it is. The key change on Youre Gonna Lose That Girl is a great example of this. And while Help ! is one of my favorite Beatles albums, to me Rubber Soul is a clear divider between old and new. Rubber Soul has no covers, where Help has Dizzy Miss Lizzy and Act Naturally .

It doesn't quite have the maturity or completeness that makes the new Beatles albums what they are, although it definetly has its mature moments. Don't get me wrong Help ! fans, I love Help , but for the sake of classification, Rubber Soul is the dividing line, because it changed everything. (In my humble opinion)

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^^^ I totally agree, RS and Revolver (even more so) is breaking the barrier. I can't really group either of them with Help

 

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*Revised*

Early Period:  PPM , WTB, AHDN

Maturing Period:  BFS, Help !

Transitional Period:  RS, Revolver

Full Studio/LSD/Spiritual Period: SPLHCB , MMT, TB(TWA), YS

Early Return/Breakup Period: [GB], AR, LIB

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On the first day of this thread's existence, I said

To me, the "early period" (era?) would end with AHDN . Once they were under the...shall we say..."Dylan influence"*, that signified the end of the innocence.

*I was referring to the weed influence
  

This was before we were being asked to classify their albums by era. Since then, I've seen many of us clumsily try to do this, not really knowing where Help ! or Revolver  and others fit in era-wise. To be fair, I can't find the perfect cutoff album for each so-called "era" either. This is because the band evolved so quickly, it's difficult to pinpoint the definitive beginning or end of each subsequent era. 

In my original post above, I said AHDN was the end of the "early" period. Giving it more thought, I'm now thinking AHDN and a half. Half of the songs on Beatles For Sale could easily have been on With The Beatles or A Hard Day's Night and the other half on Help !

Similarly, half the songs on Rubber Soul would have fit marvelously on Help ! with the rest being quite cozy on Revolver . Could this be why debates exist over the merits of the EMI vs Capitol releases? I prefer the EMI's though I can't argue with those who prefer the Capitols. But I digress.

By all means, please keep defining your eras. It's fun to see what y'all think. For the record, my favorite so far is...

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I break the three periods down this way:

Driving force(s):  Buddy Holly/Little Richard/Motown 

Please Please Me

With The Beatles

A Hard Day's Night

Beatles For Sale

 

Driving force(s) Dylan & weed

Help

Rubber Soul

Revolver (though acid is of course bleeding into this one)

 

Driving force(s): Acid and India

Sgt Pepper

Magical Mystery Tour

Yellow Submarine (I know YS was released after the White Album , but YS has much more in common w/ SPLHCB & MMT than TWA, in my opinion)

 

Driving force: marriage(s) and impending divorce

White Album

Let it Be

Abbey Road

 

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For me, I think it's Magical Mystery Tour because the following album, The Beatles (AKA White Album ) sounds almost nothing like it, therefore removing the smooth transition from Beatle album to Beatles album, although if a genre/era list is what you want, come over here and get it:

British Invasion:

Meet The Beatles

The Beatles Second Album

The Early Beatles

Electric British Invasion Folk Rock:

A Hard Day's Night

Something New

Electric Folk Rock:

Beatles 65'

Beatles VI

Help !

Electric Psychedelic Folk Rock:

Rubber Soul

Yesterday And Today

Psychedelic Rock:

Revolver

Sgt. Pepper 's Lonely Hearts Club Band

Magical Mystery Tour

Psychedelic Classic Rock:

Yellow Submarine

Classic Rock:

The Beatles

Abbey Road

Let It Be

Other:

The Beatles' Story

Hey Jude

Anthology

NOTE:

The Psychedelic Rock era can also be thought of as Children's Rock, as it sounds like it was made for 5 year olds (not saying that it's bad or it makes you look weird for liking it, just saying that no one would dress up in walrus suits and sing about yellow submarines and being in the sky with diamonds unless if they were making it with children under 10 in mind, instead of their usual 10-30 market). Also, the Classic Rock era can also be thought of as Blues Rock or Roots Rock.

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