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UK albums vs US albums
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The US Revolver has 3 less John songs. Never a good recipe. 

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William Shears Campbell said

It's not really more Paul as much it's as less John, which gives the illusion of there being more Paul. It's funny because George actually has more than John on that album.  

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I can understand the attachment that those who grew up with the Capitol albums have for them. However, to me, the suggestion that the Capitol albums, created by people who often had no direct contact with the group, and saw albums created outside of their artistic control, represent The Beatles as a group than the Parlophone releases, over which they had full say on what songs made up the album as they saw it, is to disrespect their artistic vision.

It also says something about the American Capitalist system of the time. 

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I thought i'd revisit this topic since the last time i talked about it, i hadn't actually listened to their US albums.

1. Please Please Me vs The Early Beatles vs Introducing The Beatles

I prefer Please Please Me . The 2 US albums bring nothing new to the table and seem like corporate hackjobs.

2. With The Beatles vs Meet The Beatles

I prefer Meet The Beatles. I think IWTTYH is a far better opener than It Won't Be Long and MTB features 11 original songs and 1 cover as opposed to WTB's 8 original songs and 6 covers, making it sound more like a Beatles album. WTB sounds like just another Beatles album whereas MTB sounds like a proper introduction.

3. A Hard Day's Night vs A Hard Day's Night Original Motion Picture Soundtrack vs Something New

I prefer the UK A Hard Day's Night . Although i'm not a big fan of the first 2 tracks on the UK version, i feel the album perfectly showcases Beatlemania in ways the US albums can't, although 1 plus to the Soundtrack is that the 4 GMO songs are nice to hear.

4. Beatles For Sale vs Beatles '65

I prefer Beatles '65. Beatles For Sale starts to go downhill after Mr. Moonlight but instead of getting those mediocre tracks, on Beatles '65 we get 2 tracks from side 2, as well as I'll Be Back (which fits much better here than on AHDN ) and the I Feel Fine single. I also really like the Duophonic mix of said single since it gives it a nice pseudo-live feel that we don't get with the UK mix.

5. Help ! vs Help ! Original Motion Picture Soundtrack

I prefer the UK Help !. As with our previous UK release, side 2 of Help ! is pretty mediocre. While the US version avoids those songs, it screws up by having it's score interspersed in-between the songs. Unfortunately, unlike the score to AHDN and Yellow Submarine , this score sucks. I'll take those 7 filler tracks over those instrumentals anyday.

6. Rubber Soul vs Rubber Soul

I prefer the UK Rubber Soul . Both versions are nice listens but the US version cuts out 4 songs and replaces them with 2 filler songs from the UK version of Help !. Both albums have a nice flow but i really miss those 4 songs (especially Nowhere Man ) when i listen to the US version.

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As time goes on… I have come to love the charm of each catalog more and more. I like that one is the UK’s and has The Beatles input and then the other one is such a strong part to The Beatles history and them becoming a huge hit in the US at the same time. It is so cool to me that we have different mixes and track order on releases and it is such big subject to talk about (or argue) over as fans even 50 years later. Even though the UK is my most played, I listen to them both and enjoy them at different times in my different moods.

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I have US Rubber Soul on vinyl and sometimes it just annoys me. I MISS THOSE FOUR SONGS! a-hard-days-night-paul-7 I've Just Seen A Face is ok with the rest of the album, but It's Only Love doesn't. It's much more of a Help ! song. Rubber Soul is way more folk than pop. 

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I don't have any of the US albums, and while I'm sure they're quite good (duh, they're Beatles albums, how could they not be good) I'm very happy with just the U.K. albums. The only thing I don't like is that I have all of the U.K. albums and the 1 album, so if a song wasn't a #1 A-side or on a British album, I don't have it a-hard-days-night-paul-10

This means I don't have Rain , This Boy , She's A Woman , I Call Your Name , I'm Down , Don't Let Me Down , I'll Get You , Slow Down , Long Tall Sally , Yes It Is , and more... so many wonderful songs that I do not have access to! 

The American albums have many of these songs, I believe, so in that way they are superior. But I like the U.K. ones better in general.

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And that, @50yearslate, is why you buy Past Masters !

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Past Masters sounds better in mono, but some of the tracks were stereo only so they are not on the mono version.

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The Past Masters album is a great little end cap the catalog.  It collects up almost all of the odds and ends that didn't make it to an album.

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The thing that has always puzzled me is that EMI owned both labels, Parlophone and Capitol.  So, they could have told Capitol to release the albums as they were in the UK.  I'm sure they didn't because there was so much more money to be made from U.S. sales.  Having said that, I prefer the original UK versions by far.  The only possible exception is Rubber Soul .  I think the U.S. version is more even, i.e., a folky, acoustic sound.  Still, I do miss Nowhere Man and If I Needed Someone .

So, I listen to both versions of Rubber Soul , preferring the UK version.

If I were stranded on a deserted island and could only bring one album with me, it would be Revolver. 

I just hope that I would have some means of playing it.  Ha ha!

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Reklo87 said
The Past Masters album is a great little end cap the catalog.  It collects up almost all of the odds and ends that didn't make it to an album.  

Yes, I agree.  I only have the later Past Masters , from 1966 - 1970.  It's great!

If I were stranded on a deserted island and could only bring one album with me, it would be Revolver. 

I just hope that I would have some means of playing it.  Ha ha!

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When discussing "UK albums vs US albums", it comes down to two things that break it down for me...  the first (+ fourmost), and I think that it's indisputable, is that the UK fidelity was far superior to what Americans got...  secondly, Capitol noticeably excelled in how they were presented visually...  the colours, fonts, and overall layout was much better out of the gate, in my opinion...  even the 70's albums that others here have mentioned in the 'Rarities' & 'Live at The Hollywood Bowl' offerings were top notch...  I don't know if anyone else has mentioned the beautiful 'Love Songs' double album, or the fantastic 'Rock 'N' Roll Music' 2 Record Set, which first appeared in a stunning juke-box image of them on a tin foil/platinum shiny kinda sleeve...  unfortunately, they broke it down to 'Vol. 1 & 2' with inferior jackets...  the big knock however, was the literal butchering of their English works while repeating tracks on different records, and removing signature songs to sell off on others, etc. etc....

 

Parlophone was no saint in how they marketed The Beatles either, and the glaring one for me is the 'Magical Mystery Tour ' album, which some don't count and understandably so...  Instead of getting the best of their 1967 recordings that weren't on 'Sgt. Pepper ' that year all on one record, they had to purchase a handful of singles plus an E.P. which, again, Capitol did a much better job in its presentation with the added psychedic golden clouds (where 4 or 5 Magicans lived...:-)  The U.S. version was later released in the UK anyways, which seemingly vindicates its endorsement, in my opinion...:-)

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50yearslate said
I don't have any of the US albums, and while I'm sure they're quite good (duh, they're Beatles albums, how could they not be good) I'm very happy with just the U.K. albums. The only thing I don't like is that I have all of the U.K. albums and the 1 album, so if a song wasn't a #1 A-side or on a British album, I don't have it a-hard-days-night-paul-10

This means I don't have Rain , This Boy , She's A Woman , I Call Your Name , I'm Down , Don't Let Me Down , I'll Get You , Slow Down , Long Tall Sally , Yes It Is , and more... so many wonderful songs that I do not have access to! 

The American albums have many of these songs, I believe, so in that way they are superior. But I like the U.K. ones better in general.  

Do you have the US version of Magical Mystery Tour .

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The thing that has always puzzled me is that EMI owned both labels, Parlophone and Capitol.  So, they could have told Capitol to release the albums as they were in the UK.  I'm sure they didn't because there was so much more money to be made from U.S. sales.  Having said that, I prefer the original UK versions by far.  The only possible exception is Rubber Soul .  I think the U.S. version is more even, i.e., a folky, acoustic sound.  Still, I do miss Nowhere Man and If I Needed Someone .

So, I listen to both versions of Rubber Soul , preferring the UK version.  

In the US, albums typically had less tracks and included the singles and Parlophone respected this. However, The Beatles didn't like this and in 1967 when renegotiating their contract, forbade Capitol from altering the tracklisting without their permission. They were granted permission with Magical Mystery Tour and supposedly denied permission with Yellow Submarine .

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Do you have the US version of Magical Mystery Tour .

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I'm not sure. It's got the soundtrack ones on Side One and the collection of singles on Side Two. It's whatever one comes in the big black box set.

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Sounds like the American version.

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Sounds like the American version.  

Thanks! If you don't mind my asking, what's the difference? Didn't the UK and US tracklists match up after Sgt Pepper ?

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I believe that in the UK it was released as an EP without the 1967 singles.

Somebody here will be quick to correct me if I'm wrong!

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And Ron Nasty will remind everyone that neither the English EP or the US LP are "Beatles Albums" heart

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