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Vinyl ID wont you please please help me
9 September 2020
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jambo87
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Hi.  New member and first time poster here.  Just picked up mono copy of Sgt Pepper with XEX 637 - 1 and XEX 638 - 1 in the runout so far so good but there are also tiny stamps at 3 o'clock.  Side 1 looks like rr and Side 2 looks like a square and a triangle. Discogs isn't revealing it to me so am hoping you experts on here can help.  Is not a pat pending sleeve.  Label looks like straight ahead first pressing. No funky spacing or tax code stamp.  Sleeve pretty crisp with terrible spine wear. Vinyl looks worse than it is.  Not quite sounding like a pan of frying chips as long as it's turned up loud and only a couple of skips.  No "fools" inner sleeve but cutouts in A1 condition.  Quite pleased with it for a tenner.  Bought it to listen to and it's not bad.  Any help identifying edition will be gratefully received so I can accurately add it to my collection.  Thanks.  Johnnie.?

9 September 2020
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Hi @jambo87 (and welcome to the Forum), a couple of questions if I may.

Is the label yellow/silver Parlophone...

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...or silver Parlophone?

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You mention the absence of the "Fool" inner sleeve, did it come with any form of inner sleeve?

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10 September 2020
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Hi Ron.  Thanks for the prompt response and welcome to the forum.  I'm relatively new to Beatles vinyl collecting but have managed to pick up a few early pressings for not much money so far.  In answer to your questions my Sgt P copy has the yellow and silver label. It came with no inner sleeve which, may explain the numerous surface scratches.  You can only really hear the noise on the quiet bits though.

10 September 2020
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10 September 2020
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It's a first pressing, @jambo87.

There were three pressings with the yellow/silver label. Only the first two contained the "Sold in the U.K. Subject to Resale Price Conditions, See Price Lists" line. The second pressing did not have A Day In The Life  listed on the side 2 label:

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You're not missing the "Sold in the U.K." line that only appeared on the first two pressings, and you don't have the Side 2 label fault that would confirm it as the second pressing, so it can only be a first pressing.

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10 September 2020
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Thanks Ron.  You've confirmed what I had hoped.  Now discogs says that the first pressing is super rare and there are copies on there listed from £100 to £1300.  The hundred quid one is an outlier.  Given the condition and lack of inner sleeve do you think it would be desirable to collectors?  I love the album and will buy a new remastered version if I do sell it but can't afford not to if it's worth a few hundred quid.

11 September 2020
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I wouldn't get too stuck in the idea that a price guide says X so it's worth X. The value depends on what it's worth to someone. I see mono first edition Peppers with the inner sleeve and insert going for £50 on eBay. Any collector has their priorities and price ranges. Personally I would never buy an LP with really bad seam wear, but that's just my preference. I have stuff in my collection that's in worse shape than your Pepper too. If I were you I'd look at eBay where there is a VERY active market for Beatles vinyl to get an idea of what kind of price yours might command and then make an educated decision about whether to try to sell it or hold onto it. 

£10 was definitely a bargain, I'd say...

11 September 2020
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Thanks Ron.  Discogs is confusing on the matter.  The matrix is listed as variant 2 of the first pressing which sells on there for an average of 40 quid.  It's also listed on its own described as "super rare first pressing" for silly money with an average sale of 300.  Think I'll hang on to it though and keep enjoying its crackly glory.  I know what you mean about the spine wear.  I'm less bothered when I buy records to listen to but like I said before if I could get a couple of hundred quid for it I couldn't afford to say no.  Did you notice the apparent label printing error too? Wonder if there are any millionaire completists out there wanting one of them..?  btw it's not my best bargain.  My copy of With the Beatles has the jobette credit and cost me two quid in a chazza.  Thanks for your kind help with this which, prompts me to ask another question that I hope you won't mind answering.  How would I know if my copy of Rubber Soul , my favourite btw, is the Loud or Quiet pressing?

11 September 2020
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Actually, that was @Pablo Ramon replying not me, @jambo87, though I would have said much the same but hadn't got to it as I needed to top-up my data (the joys of Pay As You Go).

On RS, the quickly discontinued first pressing, the "loud cut", is XEX 579-1/XEX 580-1, cut by Harry Moss on 17 November 1965, and sounds crap; quickly replaced with the "quiet cut", done by Hazel Yarwood on 23 November 1965, which is XEX 579-4/XEX 580-4. Interestingly there are some copies out there that mix both the loud and quiet cut, XEX 579-1/XEX 580-4 or XEX 579-4/XEX 580-1.

(Harry Moss cut the second master, XEX 579-2/XEX 580-2, on the 18th, while Hazel cut her first attempt on the 19th, XEX 579-3/XEX 580-3, neither of which were used, which explains the jump from -1 to -4.)

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12 September 2020
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Sorry @PabloRamon didn't realise it was you who replied earlier. And thanks again @ronnasty for your encyclopaedic knowledge.  Will check my copy of RS later to see which one it is.  I actually have two copies.  The early Mono pressing and a later 70's vintage stereo one.  Interestingly, I prefer the sound of the mono version so maybe it is the quiet cut. Am keeping on looking to add to my collection.  Need to find nice copies of hard days night, the White Album , yellow submarine and let it be now.  Thanks again...

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