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Strawberry Fields and Penny Lane On Sgt Pepper?
8 March 2017
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I like this thread and I do read all the different ideas on here because I like hearing other’s ideas

I hope the new release has some cool gems on it because we already have the single versions of PL/SFF and both versions this album on CD.  Behind the scenes on SPLHCB and SFF/PL would be cool as a bonus disc since they were in the same recording time frame.

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We also wouldn’t have some of the tracks that ended up on the album as the concept changed entirely and different songs would been recorded. The idea is so badly flawed from every angle it would scream of Apple just being piss poor lazy. 

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12 March 2017
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Hello, I’m new here, I would like to say my opinion, I think the idea to add those songs to the ‘Sgt. Pepper ‘ album is nice. Because is a new experience how would it have been in the past. But I have something against,I think Sgt. Pepper ‘s Lonely Hearts Club Band it’s a band from a parallel universe, so I think in that universe Penny Lane doesn’t exists and Strawberry Field too, so it doesn’t make sense that they are there. Sorry for my english, I’m a foreigner. Long live The Beatles!

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I like my albums to have 5,8,12 or 14 songs on personally, so I would take off 2 and add 3.

I would take off Fixing A Hole and Lovely Rita , and I would add on All You Need Is Love (written soon after the release but I feel it fits the album), SFF, and Penny Lane .

So my track list would be:

Side 1

1. Sgt Pepper ‘s Lonely Hearts Club Band

2. With A Little Help From My Friends

3. Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds

4. When I’m Sixty-Four

5. Penny Lane

6. She’s Leaving Home

7. All You Need Is Love

Side 2

8. Strawberry Fields Forever

9. Being For The Benefit Of Mr Kite

10. Getting Better

11. Within You Without You

12. Good Morning Good Morning

13. Sgt Pepper ‘s Lonely Hearts Club Band (Reprise)

14. A Day In The Life

 

I put Getting Better in side 2 because I thought it would need something to liven it up. Other changes would include reminding us more often that we are witnessing the band play, because I think that tails off in the original.

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To me, if you subbed Penny Lane & Strawberry Fields onto Sgt. Pepper , you’d have to take two songs off of the album and make them singles. I would swap Penny Lane for When I’m Sixty-Four (Paul song for Paul song) as the A-side and Strawberry Fields for Good Morning Good Morning (John song for John song) as the B-side. Might have to do some slight rearranging of the song order to make it work, but either way, those two songs probably should have been on the album, and I think George Martin said he regretted not doing it that way. 

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meanmistermustard said
We also wouldn’t have some of the tracks that ended up on the album as the concept changed entirely and different songs would been recorded. The idea is so badly flawed from every angle it would scream of Apple just being piss poor lazy.   

It would be one thing if we had some evidence (interviews, personal testimony, studio chatter, whatever) that they had a plan to include these two songs originally in some specific way. You know, maybe a quote from Paul somewhere saying, “Penny Lane was going to be the big opener on side two of the album,” or something like that.

At least then it would feel like there was a blueprint for the re-release.

But as it stands? Where are the “suits” even going to include these songs? They wouldn’t dare try to mess with the original track listing, I don’t think, but what’s the point in just tacking on two extra songs as “bonus tracks” at the end of the album?

Not a bit like Cagney.

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meanmistermustard said
Certainly up to the end of ’65 they were endlessly on the go with albums, bbc shows, tours, movies etc but it was a bit more relaxed in ’66 when they had a few quieter months at the beginning of the year and at the end. Admittedly The Beatles lp was a double but for ’66 onwards they only released new 1 album a year (in the UK MMT was an EP and Yellow Submarine had only 4 new tracks all recorded earlier) and a collection of singles.

Their schedule in ’63 and ’64 especially when they were conquering the UK and then the World is amazing. Its written so often that it can be taken for granted but go and have a look at how much running around without a breather they did. Bands nowadays bitch if they do a tour without 2 days off between gigs, The Beatles were travelling from city to city overnight for the next show often miles apart as it had all been so badly planned at times fitting in press appearances.  

I recognise that this post is from 2013, @meanmrmustard , but if you think about it, they did at the very least record two albums per year with the exception of 1966.

1963 – PPM , WTB

1964 – AHDN , BFS

1965 – Help !, RS

1966 – Revolver

1967 – SPLHCB , MMT (The latter isn’t technically an album but has roughly the same amount of songs)

1968 – TWA (A double album so counting as 2, plus the singles)

1969 – LIB (Released the following year but almost entirely recorded in 1969), Abbey Road .

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Thinking about this recently, that if Strawberry Fields Forever and Penny Lane hadn’t been released as a single, they would have been on the album and it is unlikely that Paul would have come up with the concept of Sgt Pepper !

Therefore, the two songs I’d remove are the two versions of the Sgt Pepper song but also add in ‘Only A Northern Song ‘….

SIDE 1

1. Strawberry Fields Forever

2. With A Little Help From My Friends

3. Getting Better

4. Only A Northern Song

5. Fixing A Hole

6. She’s Leaving Home

7. Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds

SIDE 2

1. Penny Lane

2. For The Benefit Of Mr. Kite

3. When I’m 64

4. Within You Without You

5. Good Morning Good Morning

6. Lovely Rita

7. A Day In The Life

Without the concept, they may not have added the links between a few of the songs, so it would have just been an album of songs … and a really good album too!

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This being the 55th anniversary of the album, there will be a new round of analyses.

McCartney has added bonus tracks to his albums, and this has enhanced them. (Nobody buys vinyl or CDs except for a small # of people).

Penny Lane and SFF should be added as bonus tracks.

a) As pointed out, they were meant for the album

b) There’s no limit to how many songs can be on an album now that people stream songs and albums

c) people who want to check out the Beatles by listening to their albums will miss out on all the singles that were never on the original albums.

So yes, add Hey Jude and Revolution (the raucous version) as bonus tracks to the White Album I Want To Hold Your Hand to With the Beatles, etc…

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It didn’t happen, even if I thought it should have. Thus I’m okay keeping it that way. It is what it is. 

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Maybe I’m just set in my ways, but I think that both this masterful album, and the equally masterful 45, would be diminished by being combined. I like to imagine the single as a separate miniature version of the album. 

I do, however, heart the idea of the  Rubb/olver pair each being released as 16-song albums with Paperback writer/Rain and Day Tripper /We Can Work It Out included. And a “Beatles For Sale ” with I Feel Fine //She’s A Woman , for that matter.

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Life has moved on, expanded editions with bonus tracks are the norm. I would have no issue with single expanded discs being the standard with the related b-sides, oddities and outtakes, as long as they are clearly marketed as such. I wouldn’t be in favour of revising the original track listings.

Back in the 90’s I had the first four albums in stereo on bootleg digipacks which contained outtakes as extras and loved them. They were far more enjoyable than just the standard album as there was more songs.

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http://www.beatlesebooks.com/s…..orever  

This site states that it was considered that Strawberry Fields/When I’m 64 be a single. 

When would people think that this iteration would have come out and what would its’s reputation have been

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