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Geoff Emerick remembers recording Sgt Peppers album
26 May 2017
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Came across this Geoff Emerick interview about recording Sgt. Peppers.  Very interesting and informative.

22:56 he starts talking about "A Day In The Life ".  He confirms John sang the "ahhhhhhhh" after Paul's part. a-hard-days-night-ringo-6Oh no, not that again!

33:21 he gives his thoughts on the re-issues.  I know we love the reissues, but he does make a valid point.

 

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I haven't checked but did he by any chance say John, George and Ringo were inept but Paul was great? 

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Leppo said
I haven't checked but did he by any chance say John, George and Ringo were inept but Paul was great?   

Pretty much.  Not too much about George, John was difficult to work with and they knew the work day was done when Ringo put on his jacket.

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The Ahhh comment is at 25:30/31.

Is this credible, like, for solid real?

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The whole argument on here started because, with Geoff Emerick not being regarded as the most reliable of witnesses, those who hear Paul discount his account.

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It should be noted that ABC News (Australia) have also done an equally lengthy interview with 2nd Engineer, Richard Lush:

I'll post both in All these friends and lovers... (Interviews with those who knew them) thread.

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If you're wondering who did the Ahhhs on A Day In The Life , I think it was Paul for 2 reasons:

1. Paul is pretty good at impersonating John, for years I thought John sang lead vocals on Tell Me What You See .

2. Paul says "I went into a dream", so it would make sense for him to sing it.

As with who played the guitar solo on Hey Bulldog (I'm on team George), we have no definitive proof, sometimes it sounds like John, sometimes it sounds like Paul, sometimes it even sounds like George, it's even possible that John and Paul took turns doing the Ahhhs. Sure, Geoff claims that it was John, but he also claims that George played Paul's Hofner bass on Rock And Roll Music , despite that it was recorded in one take and the bass part isn't loaded with mistakes.

To be fair though, I wouldn't hate on Geoff, Revolution In The Head has many instrumentation errors and even George and Ringo have made statements regarding instrumentation that I don't believe are true.

Also, I wouldn't get to deep into this topic because there was a thread dedicated to who played the ahhhs, this is what happened to it.

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Dark Overlord said

2. Paul says "I went into a dream", so it would make sense for him to sing it.

 

I've always thought of it the other way. There's Paul, sleeping and dreaming (in the first John part of the song) then he wakes up, does morning stuff, and then he falls back into his dream (John's second part of the song.) So when Paul sings the dream part, John's ahhhs come in, signaling the return of the dream.

I think the topic can be discussed calmly. Flaming rows over this is rather silly now.
I mean, we have a philosophy thread. Why not discuss the ahhhhs?

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Interesting, I never thought of it that way. When you think about it, there's times during the Ahhh section where the ahhhs stop, so it's possible that John and Paul took turns, similar to how Paul sang lead on the verses of Day Tripper while John sang lead on the chorus.

As for this being discussed calmly, I think it can but Joe locked a thread dedicated to this subject because some people can't handle such debatable subjects like this, but then again, we could always mention that stuff in respective song's dedicated thread. It's weird how heated arguments can be on this forum but it's even weirder that none of The Beatles have ever been asked this in an interview and the only eyewitness who has said anything about it is Geoff Emerick, who is in my opinion the least accurate Beatles eyewitness of all time.

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Evangeline said                               I mean, we have a philosophy thread. Why not discuss the ahhhhs?  

Don't discuss in ADITL thread, the philosophy thread is perfect fir that purpose!

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The Hole Got Fixed said
Don't discuss in ADITL thread, the philosophy thread is perfect fir that purpose!  

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The Philosophy thread is for talking about stuff like abortion and religion, it would be a terrible place to mention whether it was a-hard-days-night-john-6 or if it was a-hard-days-night-paul-8 who sang the ahhhs in A Day In The Life .

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I apologize for starting this topic.  I was not aware that Geoff was not a reliable source for Beatley things.

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To be fair, Geoff isn't as unreliable as people make him out to be, some of things he's said actually makes sense, such as John playing bass though DI on the backing track of Sgt. Pepper . Ian Macdonald is also an often unreliable source, making such stupid and false claims such as Paul likely played everything on Michelle and John played acoustic guitar on Strawberry Fields Forever but I wouldn't be mad if someone made a Revolution In The Head thread, same case here.

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c64wood said
I apologize for starting this topic.  I was not aware that Geoff was not a reliable source for Beatley things.  

It's ok, @c64wood. mal-evans I didn't know that was what started the brewhaha either. Let's close our eyes and float downstream ahdn_george_05, and when we wake up, the ahhh conversation will be a thing of the past. paul-mccartney-thumb_gif

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You could have put forward newly discovered authenticated home video of the session with John standing at the mic doing the ahhh's with Paul in the control room giving instructions and claims would have come back of it was only John adding to Paul's original track. If it didn't suit the individual's opinion the source and argument were rejected.

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You know, there's a thread on the Steve Hoffman forum about the ahhhs in ADITL, and it's over a hundred pages long and has a poll.ahdn_ringo_09

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Linde said
You know, there's a thread on the Steve Hoffman forum about the ahhhs in ADITL, and it's over a hundred pages long and has a poll.ahdn_ringo_09  

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How is that even still a question, though? I mean, everyone who was there says it's John. All records state that it's John. Your ears should tell you it's John. Paul and George are making the ghoulish noises in the background. You can clearly hear that weird noise Paul used to make, where he'd make a strangled 'aaaah' sound whilst inhaling. He did that in the Beatles First US visit documentary too, and it's in a few other songs as well. I know what those who say Paul sang the 'aaah's' are going to say: overdubs. But then how do you explain everyone, including Paul, saying his 'woke up, fell out of bed' bit had to be dropped in very precisely or they would've ended up wiping John's vocal track? They even explained what they did to John's voice to make him sound that way.a-hard-days-night-john-1

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On topic: I saw that Geoff Emerick interview a while ago and the feeling I got from that was that Geoff made it sound as if he pretty much is the sole reason Pepper sounds the way it does. I have no problems believing he was important, but he made it seem as if his efforts were much more defining than anything George Martin, or the Beatles themselves for that matter, did to achieve the sound. Surely, he must've been following orders rather than making the decisions on how to record or mix? Yet, if we have to believe him, he pretty much came up with everything. It sort of rubbed me the wrong way, as did his petty comments about the remaster, or the way he mentioned George as little as possible. I'm a Paulette through and through, but let's be fair: there were four lads in that band (and none of them were named Geoff), all of them equally important. a-hard-days-night-ringo-15paul-mccartney-thumb_gif

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