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RUBBER SOUL (1965) AVERAGED RANK

This is a copy paste:

I decided to go on a task of continuing and updating list of every post averaged in the thread to create a decent ranking of the tracks off every album. In this case Rubber Soul . I clarify my process and rules below.

1 – In My Life (563 points)

2 – Norwegian Wood (This Bird Has Flown) (524 points)

3 – Nowhere Man (488 points)

4 – Girl (444 points)

5 – If I Needed Someone (378 points)

6 – Drive My Car/I’m Looking Through You (tied at 361 points)

7 – You Won’t See Me (330 points)

8 – Think for Yourself (315 points)

9 – Michelle (270 points)

10 – The Word (262 points)

11 – Wait (180 points)

12 – Run for Your Life (138 points)

13 – What Goes On (118 points)

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Averaging process and rules:

A pretty classic averaging system; it goes basically by giving the maximum amount of points to the top track on every post (in this case 13) and as the list progresses into the “worst” tracks each track gets one point less. The last track gets no points. For this to apply the post must have the 14 Rubber Soul songs ranked.

IMPORTANT: if you think one of your rankings might have one of these ambiguous qualities that might disqualify it and you want to be counted in the averaging DON’T edit it; post it again with more detail, otherwise I won’t be able to subtract the points and add them again and it won’t be counted anyway.a-hard-days-night-paul-11

Particular cases:

-NO. 1- Sometimes if there is a track missing but there’s a written clarification, it can be counted. In the case of Abbey Road , for instance, some people don’t count Her Majesty . In that case I count the post and give no points to Her Majesty only if there is a written statement of why its missing. If one track is missing and the post doesn’t have any written clarification then it is considered a mistake and therefore disqualified.

-NO. 2- The tracklist considered is taken out of the Wikipedia/RYM/Discogs “official” tracklists. This means those who rank the Abbey Road Medley as a whole don’t get counted unless they clarify by writing that the tracks separately also rank that way, same with any variation of the sort.

-NO. 3- If a person implies to a previous post that “that would exactly be [their] ranking” and don’t post any ranking themselves, then the points of the first person will be added a second time in behalf of the second person.

-NO. 4- Only one person each ranking. If you posted several times your changes, only the last one will be counted (unless it has any mistakes, missing tracks, etc., in that case then the last one that has no issues will be the one counted).

-NO. 5- The rankings are considered given the numbers apply to them, “1” universally represents the top spot. Unless there is a written statement that clarifies it’s the other way around, this is the way it will be counted.

-NO. 6- If there are no numbers on the ranking and no written clarification it could go either way. At first I used to think the ones at the top were the number 1 spot but in some cases it just isn’t that way. So I decided I’ll just grab the worst rated track up to that point and I see if it falls on the top half or the bottom half. If it falls on the top half I’ll consider the bottom half the top spot and if it falls on the bottom half then I’ll consider the top half the top spot. It might be unfair at times as it might reverse someones’ ranking if they are unlucky by voting positively a previously negatively voted track, but in the grand scheme of things I think it was mostly accurate. In case that the number of tracks is odd (A Hard Day’s Night , Sgt. Pepper ‘s Lonely Hearts Club Band, Magical Mystery Tour , Yellow Submarine ‘s Side B & Abbey Road ) and the worst rated track falls in precisely the middle spot then I just take the second to worst rated and judge as to where that one falls.

-NO. 7- If there are “ties” in someone’s ranking their ranking can still be counted but it won’t represent exactly the ties in the overall averaging. If there is still a list-like format then I go from the bottom to the top adding points just like usual, so tied tracks can get different scores but just differing in one single point or two (unless you tie like 5 tracks together), but I think it’s more fair than not letting those people participate at all. It might seem unfair but if the tied tracks were to get the same points, it would increasingly leave an averaging gap between those songs so it’s mathematically better to just stick to the original adding process.

-NO. 8- If there are two tracks that are “tied” then I will just give more points to the one that is named first, regardless of descriptions, just to keep the whole thing going. Unless there’s a specific written clarification of why one of the tracks is better or more of a favourite, then I’ll just give more points to the one named first.

-NO. 9- However, if there’s a tie between three tracks (or more) then that post will no longer be counted unless the list has a specific ranking format in which case see item “-NO. 7-“.

-NO. 10- I guess that if someone doesn’t want to be counted in the averaging he can ask me not to count him in but I hope nobody does that so we get his opinion tooahdn_john_08_gif

All of these rules are up to debate if someone disagrees with part of the judgement. I’m sure we can reach an agreement if they are considered questionable.

IMPORTANT: if you think one of your rankings might have one of these ambiguous qualities that might disqualify it and you want to be counted in the averaging DON’T edit it; post it again with more detail, otherwise I won’t be able to subtract the points and add them again and it won’t be counted anyway.a-hard-days-night-paul-11

Also here’s a playlist with the results from worst to best in case you want to see how effective it proves in practice (I’ll try edit these as well):

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Well,for  me,it  looks  so

!.Norwegian  wood

2.In  my  life 

3.Girl

4.Nowhere  man

5.Run  for  your  life

6.You  won’t  see  me

7.Think  for  yourself

8.If  i  needed  someone

9.The  word

10.Drive my  car

11 Michelle

12.I’m  looking  through  you

13.Wait

14.What  goes  on

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@StrawberryWalrus, i adore ‘What Goes On ‘, its my favourite Ringo track, so delighted its at the top of someone’s list instead of being shoved at the bottom.

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meanmistermustard said
@StrawberryWalrus, i adore ‘What Goes On ‘, its my favourite Ringo track, so delighted its at the top of someone’s list instead of being shoved at the bottom.

It must be my fav Ringo track too, with Octopus Garden coming  to a very close 2nd place. Rubber Soul is one of my personal favorites too, but this song just blows them all off with sincere and simple Ringo perfomance.

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meanmistermustard said

@StrawberryWalrus, i adore ‘What Goes On ‘, its my favourite Ringo track, so delighted its at the top of someone’s list instead of being shoved at the bottom.

Conversely, my favorite track on the album (it’s in my Beatles top 5) was “shoved at the bottom” by the previous two posters. a-hard-days-night-paul-11

Ah well, one man’s treasure…

All in all, a great album – hard to argue with any ranking of tracks on this one.a-hard-days-night-paul-7

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For me the worst track on the album is ‘Nowhere Man ‘, have never got what others hear in it which makes it get a decent rating.

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meanmistermustard said
For me the worst track on the album is ‘Nowhere Man ‘, have never got what others hear in it which makes it get a decent rating.

It’s the little “PLLLIIINGGGG!” at the end of the solo. That’s totally it ahdn_ringo_09

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:-)

Aw, I won’t hold it against anyone if Girl isn’t their top song. I won’t take it personally

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To be honest I have great difficulty ranking this album, close as it is to perfect. But…

  1. Drive My Car Perfect starting song, this is proper riff-based and holy cow those harmonies.
  2. The Word Fantastic bounce from the bass and those guitar stabs. Just gorgeous singing. You are forbidden from unhappy!
  3. Think For Yourself This is a stunning song for an early George. Great backup vocals and zippy fuzz bass! Paul seems to have grown an extra octave from this period, he does some of the best singing of his life from here on.
  4. Nowhere Man It’s brilliant. Suddenly John is writing poetry in his songs.
  5. In My Life And then John does it again. I’m reminded of All I’ve Got To Do where Ringo holds it together, its much trickier than it sounds.
  6. Norwegian Wood The sitar makes its famous entrance. John still channelling Dylan. Unusual 3/4 time signature but its not a waltz!
  7. Girl The metre of this song reminds me of I’m Only Sleeping , another big acoustic number.
  8. I’m Looking Through You It’s a simple song but Paul puts his rave voice into it and it’s a proper breakup song rather than a lovey one like Michelle
  9. If I Needed Someone Ok it isn’t the greatest lyric on the planet, but its hella cruisey and fits that whole Byrdsy thing they had going with his other song.
  10. What Goes On This is the nice country song on the album. Sung by that nice Ringo.
  11. Michelle The tune is pretty but Paul didn’t work too hard on the lyrics in contrast to John and it stands out.
  12. You Won’t See Me I have to say Anne Murray did it better. The ideas are there, the execution just doesn’t come off and becomes a trudge in the “Time after time…” sections.
  13. Run For Your Life I just hate the lyrics, and I wish the music wasn’t that good.
  14. Wait This is filler.

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