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Ranking Past Masters
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This topic is about ranking the two LPs indivudual or together. I find it easier indvidual. But sadly, I’ll have to get back to on this. Right now my brain isn’t in a good mood and it might wxplode if I do so right now.

 

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What are the two LPs, Mono Masters and Past Masters ?

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What are the two LPs, Mono Masters and Past Masters ?

 

No, I meant the two volumes of Past Masters . Sorry for the confusing, have an apple. apple01a-hard-days-night-john-5

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I’m sorry, I do not understand all these “list songs on album from best to worst” threads that are cropping up all over the forum. They just don’t make sense to me. Discussions about the merits/demerits of an album, yes, but ranking, I just don’t get it. Maybe a running poll of all songs officially released would be interesting, but I hate seeing this done to individual albums. And Past Masters is such a wide and varied collection because of it’s nature. I won’t be ranking it’s contents, either as Vol. 1/2, or as a whole.

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a-hard-days-night-ringo-8Yeah, especially with a compilation album like Past Masters .

I couldn’t rank them even if I tried anyways, but I think there’s a pretty good chance that Hey Jude would be first (I don’t like the Past Masters version quite as much as I do the mono version, though).

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I don’t like the Past Masters , I only listen to the Mono Masters with two stereo tracks namely Ballad of John and Yoko and Old Brown Shoe . Likewise I don’t like ranking albums, songs and album covers because you just can’t.

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I listen to the mono versions of every album preferably (except for the albums that were stereo-only: Abbey Road and Let It Be and the singles at the end of Past Masters )

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I ripped up Past Masters and Mono Masters and placed the songs into their time related albums. Also switch between the mono and stereo lps as many tracks have different mixes. Hardly ever play the ’87 remixes of Help ! and Revolver tho.

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I ripped up Past Masters and Mono Masters and placed the songs into their time related albums. Also switch between the mono and stereo lps as many tracks have different mixes. Hardly ever play the ’87 remixes of Help ! and Revolver tho.

Me neither. In fact, since I got the Beatles in Mono box set, I hardly ever listen to the stereo mixes of any of the albums until 1969 when they are only in stereo.

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Should have written Help ! and Rubber Soul . Revolver wasnt remixed in ’87. Stupid boy.

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Considering that Past Masters contains all of the Beatles non British album singles from Love Me Do to Let it Be, I think it should be ranked very highly. The only things I skip are the German language versions. I’m part of the generation who cut it’s Beatle teeth on the Red and Blue albums. It wasn’t that hard of a transition

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Easy

 

33) I Call Your Name – trash. so derivative and uninventive it’s painful. 1/10

32) Thank You Girl – again, early B side with no spark whatsoever. 2/10

31) I’ll Get You – same. 2/10

30) Love Me Do – I get that it’s a classic but still. I really dislike it. 2/10

29) Long Tall Sally – Paul butchering an excellent song by Little Richard. a song composed for the voice of Richard, just doesn’t fit the Beatles arrangement at all. 3/10

28) Matchbox – Ringo is decent but it also doesn’t add nothing to the table. 3/10

27) Slow Down – a decent riff but it just lacks energy. 4/10

26) Bad Boy – this one does have energy, but doesn’t have a good riff, you just gotta pick which one you prefer. 4/10

25) Across The Universe – sounds even worse than the original version. it doesn’t sound like what John wanted at all. 5/10

24) The Inner Light – I like how it starts and ends, but the slow harmonies throughout the song kills the mood for me. 5/10

23) Old Brown Shoe – reminds me of For You Blue , just a normal country pace interpreted by Harrison, again, nothing special. 5/10

22) Komm, gib mir deine Hand – why should I care about this? 6/10

21) She’s A Woman – a decent rock tune, with a roughness to it. I like it. 6/10

20) From Me To You – a classic, but it has aged very poorly. 6/10

19) I’m Down – HOW COULD YOU LAUGH?! I mean the energy is there even if it’s not that creative of a melody. 6/10

18) Lady Madonna – I always thought it was overrated, generally because I don’t like the bridge at all. the overall vibe is something I approve of tho. 6/10

17) Revolution – very good, but very bloated. maybe it help the vibe but for a 3-minute song, it gets old pretty fast. 6/10

16) She libel dish – same as before, I just like “She Loves You ” better than “I Want To Hold Your Hand ”. 7/10

15) Day Tripper – a killer riff, with a decent verse and chorus. 7/10

14) Get Back – cool. 7/10

13) I Want To Hold Your Hand – this one aged as a good document of pop in the 1960s. a great hit that works as a document more than an actual song. 7/10

12) Yes It Is This Boy , but not as good. 7/10

11) I Feel Fine – vocal melodies are sharp as hell. and this is not even one of my favourite tracks. 7/10

10) The Ballad Of John And Yoko – I find it creative, fun to listen to, and has a great hook. 7/10

9) She Loves You – maybe not a Revolver type of eight out of ten, but just a really energetic and stimulating rock tune by the Beatles. a classic in every sense of the word; imitated, never duplicated. just top notch 60s pop. the best from its era. 8/10

8) Let It Be – I prefer the album solo but it is still great. 8/10

7) We Can Work It Out – a great production point for the band. the harmonium adds a lot of personality to the song, as well as the 3/4 break. really innovative. 8/10

6) You Know My Name (Look Up the Number) – I don’t know why tho. I’ve always felt this song gets a lot of hate from people who have never heard an avant-garde song in their life, and can’t function musically outside of the normal conventions of pop structure instead of actually a good piece of sound. generally the same demographic that prefers early Beatles material. You Know My Name (Look Up the Number) starts off with a freaky instrumental that sounds prophetic to 90s R&B, with claps that sound like pop from the 2000s. it’s scarily futuristic. the melody of “you, you know, you know my name – look up the number” is great, and the break in the middle is funny, stimulating, it has great studio noise background and latin instrumentation, followed by a piano ending just as creative and careless. the studio chemistry is palpable, and I know it’s just a play around but it is such an interesting one, and it actually gets me interested through the entire thing. and it’s 4:20 minutes, come on, have a sense of humour. 8/10

5) Don’t Let Me Down – even the studio version has grown on me. the rooftop version is easily a ten out of ten, but the studio version has its issues. it’s slower, the organ work is a little lazier and the vocal melodies are not as passionate. still, the chillness of the track is very soothing, and the instrumentation follows it well. 8/10

4) This Boy – simple but great, just like this paragraph. 8/10

3) Paperback Writer – a unique and exciting piece of fast rock, with fantastic storytelling lyrics and orgasmic vocal harmonies. surely one of their best A sides. 9/10

2) Hey Jude – absolutely fantastic even though it is not that complex of a song. it compensates in scale. the lyrics are also simple, but are gorgeous. and as a song, it sounds like the feeling of knowing that after a long storm, you aren’t alone anymore. the chant at the end of the song is one of the most memorable melodies of all time, and also, one of the best melodies of all time. perfect 7 minute song, that could be 20 minutes and it would be just as good. 10/10

1) Rain – a three minute miracle, and their best B side, just goes to show how good they could be to have a B side of the calibre. it evolves perfectly, and it is reflective of one of the most beautiful sounds on rock history. melancholic and sad, as well as hopeful. it is philosophical and it is accompanied by perfect instrumentation, drums and guitars are on point. I get chills every time I listen to it. 10/10

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Why are so few people ranking Past Masters ? Why is @Jules almost the only one who was done it? Is @Jules still active anyway? I think ranking Past Masters makes sense, as one is basically ranking all the singles. Here goes nothing. I must be nuts.

 

33) Love Me Do – How can a band first kick the rock and roll out of the dirtiest nightclubs in Hamburg, then create innovative masterpieces, but do something like that in between? That’s your “granny music” right there, every single Macca track of the likes of When I’m Sixty-Four and Honey Pie is way more sophisticated and timeless. Goody-good boygroup pop to charme future mother-in-laws, must have sounded totally dated six months after release.

 

32) Thank You Girl – Another typical early-Beatles track that sounds really nice when I listen to it, but when I haven’t heard it in longer than five minutes I couldn’t recite it or distinguish it from two dozens other early-Beatles tracks

 

31) I Call Your Name – Early-Beatles-beatrocker-about-getting-with-a-girl Part 642. Some nice vocal passages (“I’m not gonna ma-a-a-a-ake it”).

 

30) I’ll Get You – Early-Beatles-beatrocker-about-getting-with-a-girl Part 643. The little part with the song title is by far the best thing about this thing.

 

29) Slow Down – How about you four boys slow down with doing rock covers that are perfectly decent but take the up space and add not that much to the table?

 

28) Matchbox – This is what I mean with the track above. The matches are good, they have a nice groove, it’s perfectly fine, I like Ringo singing. But the very concept of covering Rockabilly-standards, at least more often than once in a while at best, is not justifiable to me, not for a band of this calibre, not for the Beatles after graduating from a club rock group to recording artists crafting their own thing and being extremely succesfull with that.

 

27) From Me To You – Here we have a nice melody, nice vocals, some good variations in the song (unlike Love Me Duh), even a better harmonica part, but it’s just a bit too early-beatlesque for me to really stand out.

 

26) Sie Liebt Dich – I’m ranking those together, since they’re basically the same songs. Their german is both really good and really terrible, depending how you look at it. Let’s say it’s an impressive but imperfect effort.

 

25) She Loves You – This is basically Love Me Duh 2.0 but filthier, more energetic, more catchy. Solid early effort. A worthy representative of the early years.

 

24) This Boy – Starts out very slow and a bit tedious but has a really nice little bridge later on, and the acoustic flavour is good too.

 

23) Yes It Is – Same as with This Boy . Starts out very slow and a bit tedious and has a nice little bit later on that’s way too short. Are we sure this is not the same song? When do I get to Past Masters 2?

 

22) She’s A Woman – I can’t distinguish those 1963-1964 Beatles tracks anymore at this point. Much less rank them. Eehm, it has cool parts that are too short.

 

21) I Feel Fine – I think this almost sounds like early Rubber Soul stuff. Would have been far from the best track on said album, but in the chronology of Past Masters it’s the first major sign of progressing towards what was to come in 1965.

 

20) Bad Boy – The second best Beatles rockabilly cover (see Long Tall Sally ). I guess. Lennons pronunciation of “behave yourself” elevates it at least three spots.

 

19) I’m Down – The song that sounds like another Rockabilly cover but actually… isn’t one? Macca wrote this? If so he did a good job emulating 50s rock and roll. But what’s more important, we have reached Past Masters 2 finally.

 

18) Day Tripper – Good song, but which Beatles song isn’t? Not my favourite, it sounds like some Rubber Soul filler that’s representative of the overall feel of the album but doesn’t stand out.

 

17) Komm Gib Mir Deine Hand – The german is a bit better here. Sounds like some sobby german Schlager hit.

 

16) I Want To Hold Your Hand – This is actually a really strong melody that suffers from being an upbeat-merseypop Beatlemania hit single. The potential is there, just get rid of the handclaps and slow it down (where is that bloody Phil Spector at when you need him for once?!). The musical number in Julie Taymors film is a good example, it’s mindblowing. This is the song for me that Help ! was for John Lennon , the one where compromising to the standard genre is regrettable. Because the melody is great, did I mention that?

 

15) Long Tall Sally – My favourite cover song of theirs. Yes, better than Twist & Shout. This is rock and roll, this is the 50s, this is the filthy groove of old times. To me not necessarily weaker than Little Richards version (well, maybe a tiny bit), just a bit different.

 

14) Paperback Writer – This was mindblowingly awesome the first few times I heard it, then it became one of those songs that are just so good I feel obligated to justify why they’re not among my favourites but I can’t. It’s just that those four boys from Liverpool (you may have heard of them) were really, really good.

 

13) We Can Work It Out – Can’t say too much about it, it’s simple and lovely, quite creative with that little Waltz thingy. Would have been the better A-side if you ask me.

 

12) You Know My Name (Look Up The Number) – I think it’s funny. And unique. And even catchy in a way that’s almost annoying without really being annoying. With so many Beatles songs this one is perfectly allowed to exist. And it does a great job existing.

 

11) Lady Madonna – Imma call this one groovy, because that’s what it is. Almost jazzy. Another song that I’d like to have higher for how good it is, but somehow it still doesn’t hold a candle to my real favourites.

 

10) Get Back – Probably the superior version compared to the album version, although I sometimes miss Sweet Loretta Fart being a frying pan. For Get Back , I need to be in the right mood, then it pays off. It may have grown on me recently. By the way, drums are an awesome instrument, especially when they’re played by Ringo Starr .

 

9) Don’t Let Me Down – Stupid song, that used to give me some room to breath (and rank) because it was one of those that I could have a bit further down or even call a tiny bit overrated without having a guilty conscience. But for some reason it had to grow on me and now it must make it even more difficult to rank those songs somehow.

 

8) Rain – A song that has been called underrated so many times it became overrated in the process. To me it’s the ranks with I’m Only Sleeping and She Said She Said as a sort of psychedelic Lennon rock trilogy, and depending on the time of the day it’s either the best or the weakest of those three.

 

7) The Ballad Of John And Yoko – Doesn’t sound like a ballad actually. I’ve been tricked. It sounds more super-groovy. And it sounds good. Very good. Like Lennon being boss type good.

 

6) Revolution – The opening riff would be enough, but imagine, the song goes on! Man, I want to live in 1968.

 

5) Let It Be – I don’t know it it’s the best version of the song. I might prefer the album version I guess. Do I? What are the differences? How many versions are there? Spare me, I had a hard enough time studying all the different versions of Across The Universe , that song is like Blade Runner. But with even more different versions. Let It Be is great by the way.

 

4) Old Brown Shoe – I read the dictionary today, oh boy. Looked up the word ‘cool’. Found a picture of George Harrison and a music sheet. Of some track named after elderly umber footwear, that I sometimes listen to in a loop over twenty times. I still don’t know what he sings during the fade-out though.

 

3) Across The Universe – Wildlife was the first and for some time the only version of the song I heard, and it’s still my favourite. I’m used to and like the tempo, the bird sounds, the apple scruffs. Well, technically the Anthology take with the brillant sitar work would be the best, but Lennons vocals are not that good there. So until someone puts this vocal take on the Anthology instrumental this remains my overall favourite version of one of Lennons finest works. Jay Guru Deva Om.

 

2) Hey Jude – I guess many fans, me included, are tempted to have Jude a bit lower for how beloved it is by the masses. But I can’t help myself, this song is awesome, I just need a break from it from time to time, but when I return, it’s like an old friend putting a smile on me. Or making me cry. The sheer scope and scale of the track is overwhelming. And then I catch myself singing “Na Na Na Nananana” horribly.

 

1) The Inner Light – I’ve been switching Jude and Light for ages. Today it’s Light. I’m a sucker for my boy Harrison mixing west and east to a point where it just feels like authentic east. The Inner Light is just so different and interesting. I love it. It might be in my top ten favourite Beatles songs. George was so good. “Do all without doing” ending the track is heaven.

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It is hard to rank the Past Masters albums as the songs are from different eras. However this is my attempt!

 

1. We Can Work It Out – one of my favourite Beatles songs and a great collaboration between Paul and John. I know that the singles were their own identity but it is a shame now, that this and Daytripper are not on Rubber Soul … what an album that would be now!

2. Rain – brilliant song, brilliant bass and drums, brilliant recording … would have enhanced Revolver even more!

3. She Loves You – the best of the British Beatlemania period and pop perfection!

4. Hey Jude – I have to be in the mood to listen to it, probably due to overplaying it for years, but when I do .. it is brilliant!

5. I Feel Fine – Brilliant catchy single. This would really have enhanced Beatles For Sale if the feedback from this opened the album!

6. Paperback Writer – great single, their first to not be about ‘love’ in any way.

7. Don’t Let me Down – stuck on the ‘B’ side of ‘Get Back , when it should have been on the Let It Be album. John’s highlight from that time.

8. Revolution – brilliant guitar intro and scream, then it settles down into a great mid-paced rocker. Great song!

9. Get Back – fantastic song. Not too fussed on this single version with the spoken bit though.

10. Let It Be – another great song and one of Paul’s most famous. I much prefer the album version for George’s alternative guitar solo.

11. Daytripper – double A side of ‘We Can Work It Out ‘ … both could have been No.1 on their own. Would have further enhanced Rubber Soul .

12. Old Brown Shoe – not sure that this was recorded brilliantly, but it is a strong song and a favourite. Wouldn’t have been out of place on All Things Must Pass , but then I suppose several of those songs came form this time. I’m glad that it is a Beatles song though.

13. Across The Universe – great song, but prefer the version on the album. John complained that they never really recorded this the way he wanted.

14. I Want To Hold Your Hand – blasted The Beatles into orbit, their first No. 1 and the start of Beatlemania in America.

15. This Boy – ‘B’ side of ‘I Want To Hold Your Hand ‘. I have always liked this song and still do!

16. I’ll Get You – ‘B’ side of ‘She Loves You ‘. I’ve always liked this song and still do!

17. The Ballad of John & Yoko – the last British No.1 single. Recorded quickly and it is rough around the edges but captures the events of John & Yoko’s wedding well! Good song, similar to ‘New York City’ recorded a few years later.

18. Lady Madonna – one of the weaker singles? Still a catchy song though and good lyrics.

19. The Inner Light – I want to really like this one and it is good, but I find it hard to listen to sometimes, unlike the other two songs in George’s Indian trilogy.

20. You Know My Name (Look Up The Number) – wierd and wacky and I could listen to this for hours! John and Paul really did have a good relationship!

 

Most of the Top 20 songs from Past Masters are as good as anything that the Beatles recorded, for their albums and in many cases, better. The remaining songs though are a bit patchier in quality.

 

21. From Me To You – officially the Beatles first UK No.1 single. Catchy early song.

22. Love Me Do – first single and it does have a certain charm.

23. Long Tall Sally – great screaming vocals from Paul!

24. I Call Your Name – relegated to an EP, but was covered by Mamas & Papas … but don’t like their version much either.

25. I’m Down – Paul’s attempt at writing his own ‘Long Tall Sally ‘ … not bad but not as good as the original.

26. Yes It Is – a bit of a re-write of ‘This Boy ‘ and not quite as good.

27. She’s A Woman – this one never really grabbed me, but it’s a bit different.

28. Slow Down – good vocals from John, decent song and cover.

29. Bad Boy – ditto.

30. Thank You Girl – average early B side

31. Sie Liebt Dich – not listen to this for years, but a good tune!

32. Komm Gib Mir Deine Hand – not listened to this for years, but a good tune!

33. Matchbox – like a few of Ringo’s cover versions, just a bit boring and not one I’d play often or at all really.

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This’s hard but I’ll try my best:

33 and 32 – Sie Liebt Dich and Komm Gib Mir Deine Hand   – I don’t really care about the german versions, sorry

31 – Bad Boy – kinda meh really

30, 29 – Matchbox and Slow Down – these two never impressed me much.

28 – I’m Down – this song was fun live though.

27 – She’s A Woman  

26 – Ballad of John and Yoko – never been a fan of this one.

25 – I Call Your Name – I love the guitar intro.

24 – Love Me Do – the first single

23 – Thank You Girl .

22 – From Me To You

21 – Long Tall Sally – good cover, Paul’s voice is amazing in this

20 – I’ll Get You . – I really relate to the lyrics of this one, even though they’re quite simple.

19 – Lady Madonna – Never understood the “hype” of this one?

18 – You Know My Name – so fun.

17 – This Boy – Lovely harmonies.

16 – I Want To Hold Your Hand

15 –  Inner Light – a very chill song by George.

14 – Across The Universe – not my favorite version of the song.

13 – Yes, It Is – this one deserves more love, totally underrated.

12 – Old Brown Shoe   – Bad ass song, the bass is great.

11 – Day Tripper – one of the best Beatles riff?

10 – Let It Be

9 –  She Loves You – so catchy

8 – Paperback Writer  

7 – Get Back

6 – Revolution – the guitar tone kinda annoys me though

5 – I Feel Fine – I always feel fine listening to this one

4 – Hey Jude – iconic song even if it can be overplayed.

3 – Don’t Let Me Down – this song is just so good.

2 – We Can Work It Out – The harmonies are fantastic, I like the lyrics and the melody stucks in your head.

1 – Rain – Probably one of fav Beatles song. Psychedelic, fantastic drums and bass, and John’s voice is excellent in this.

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Tee-hee, @alittlebitolder. When I clicked on this thread I misread the subject as Ranking Past Members. I was thinking this will be interesting. a-hard-days-night-paul-7Anyway nice to see some love for Don’t Let Me Down (Don’t you know it’s gonna last). a-hard-days-night-john-1

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Anyway nice to see some love for Don’t Let Me Down (Don’t you know it’s gonna last). a-hard-days-night-john-1 

Agreed. One of my favourites. It’s a love that last forever.

Also the first and second (Rain and We Can Work It Out ) would come high in my list too. paul-mccartney-thumb_gif

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He, don’t I get any love just because I have We Can Work It Out not so high and used the words “Rain ” and “overrated” in the same sentence? 😉 Well, at least I enjoy Don’t Let Me Down much more recently.

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Monkberry Moon Delight said
He, don’t I get any love just because I have We Can Work It Out not so high and used the words “Rain ” and “overrated” in the same sentence? 😉 Well, at least I enjoy Don’t Let Me Down much more recently. 

I’m also very keen on your top three selections, MMD: The Inner Light , Hey Jude and Across The Universe .

I’m gradually deciding on my ratings ready for the next Beatles Bible Canon Poll, and all those six songs will receive high ratings from me.

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