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Overrated and underrated Albums
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Bjway
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13 October 2010 - 9.39pm

Underrated I would usually say Magical Mystery Tour and Yellow Submarine. MMT has some really awesome songs aside from the well known ones. Even though Yellow Submarine only has 4 new songs, 3 of those are amazing, plus the orchestral pieces I also enjoy quite a bit.

Overrated I have no clue, can't think of anything.

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DoctorRobert
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14 October 2010 - 3.52pm

Bj said:

Underrated I would usually say Magical Mystery Tour and Yellow Submarine. MMT has some really awesome songs aside from the well known ones. Even though Yellow Submarine only has 4 new songs, 3 of those are amazing, plus the orchestral pieces I also enjoy quite a bit.

Overrated I have no clue, can't think of anything.


I think that since Magical Mystery Tour comprises of a lot of previously released singles, people aren't as quick to herald it as much as the big five, much like singles collection like Past Masters. I do think the orchestral pieces of Yellow Submarine are bit crap, so it's not really a complete album.

To say Sgt. Pepper's is overrated is a bit cliché, but it simply doesn't compare to the others in the big five.

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GniknuS
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14 October 2010 - 3.57pm

Is that quote in your signature true Bj?

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RedLennon
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14 October 2010 - 8.56pm

Overrated has got to be Let it Be for me.   I dont really care for One After 909, the George songs, the short songs, or The Long And Winding Road; and that is pretty much half the album. 

 

Underrated is either Help or Beatles For SaleHelp gets a good amount of attention, but I absolutely love every song on the album, aside from maybe Dizzy Miss Lizzy, the guitar riff gets a little repetative.  Beatles For Sale is just overlooked so much, especially I'll Follow the Sun.

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MeanMrsMustard
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14 October 2010 - 9.03pm

DoctorRobert said:

 

To say Sgt. Pepper's is overrated is a bit cliché, but it simply doesn't compare to the others in the big five.


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If you must, say "trite." 

 

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DoctorRobert
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14 October 2010 - 9.29pm

MeanMrs.Mustard said:

DoctorRobert said:

 

To say Sgt. Pepper's is overrated is a bit cliché, but it simply doesn't compare to the others in the big five.


(screams)
 

THOU SHALT NOT USE "CLICHÉ" AS AN ADJECTIVE! 

"CLICHÉ" IS A NOUN!

 

If you must, say "trite." 

 

Hey, someone needs to defend the English language. 


Nouns can used as adjectives in a colloquial sense, such as having a conversation, or chatting on a forum. For example, to describe a song as "sounding a bit Lennon". a-hard-days-night-john-1

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Bjway
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15 October 2010 - 2.27am

GniknuS said:

Is that quote in your signature true Bj?


Lol no, it's a quote from Awaiting On You All on All Things Must Pass. You know George and his humour a-hard-days-night-george-10

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VeraChuckandDave
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9 November 2010 - 6.05pm

Overrated: Let It Be: Good thing the Beatles broke up when they did because I don't think they were going in a good direction, and Let It Be shows that. Most of the songs are mediocre, and the album as a whole was over done by Phil Spector. Case in point: listen to the pre-Spectorized version of Across The Universe, and then listen to the Album version.

 

Underrated:Help!- The Beatles were going through a major transition from being a pop group to becoming a rock band in 1965, and Help! is a prime example of this. With songs like Yesterday, You've Got To Hide Your Love Away, Ticket To Ride, aswell as other great songs, I think this an album that is not brought up in discussions as much as it should be.

 

Magical Mystery Tour- Being relaesed in 1967, the same year as Sgt. Peppers, I think this album was overshadowed, and people assume just because the film was a flop, the album was aswell. Boasting songs like I Am The Walrus, Strawberry Fields Forever, Hello Goodbye, Penny Lane, and All You Need Is Love, this album ranks right up there with the best of them.a-hard-days-night-paul-1a-hard-days-night-ringo-9a-hard-days-night-john-1a-hard-days-night-george-9

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Sitar Soul
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13 November 2010 - 9.30pm

Underrated: Magical Mystery Tour. It got a bad rap because of the accompanying film... but it truly has some hidden gems of songs.

Overrated: Sgt. Pepper. Yes, yes, it is a fantastic album. It's just that when I hear it being praised as a deep concept album, I kind of disagree. Sure, the concept of being another band for a short period is a great one, but The Beatles never really explored that concept past the opening track and reprise. You take the rest of the album's songs, and it's just another Beatles album. A great one, mind you. But no concepts at work there.

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GeorgeTSimpson
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29 August 2012 - 9.44pm

Imo the most underrated album is let it be. Not that it is so awesome, but some people seam to really hate it and I think the songwriting on many songs is really fantastic (get back, let it be, two of us, I've Got A Feeling, Across The Universe). Imo the most overrated albums is revolver. Not that it's bad, some songs are great (For No One, And Your Bird Can Sing, Eleanor Rigby) and some are really inovative (Tomorrow Never Knows, She Said She Said, i'm only slepping) but as a whole it's just not as good as Abbey Road, White Album, Rubber Soul etc. for me. Many people say it's their favourite album (and I understand that it is for them) but for me it just isn't (it's still awesome)

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FlyOn13
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29 August 2012 - 10.28pm

Overrated: Sgt. Pepper (no question)

Underrated: Help!

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29 August 2012 - 10.33pm

Underrated: Beatles For Sale. Appears to be the album that is an easy target for moaning and criticising but there are such fantastic songs (to name them: (originals) No Reply, Im A Loser, I'll Follow The Sun, What Youre Doing; (covers) Rock And Roll Music (which is just as every bit as good as Long Tall Sally which is raved about)). I also personally love Words Of Love (love the harmonies), Honey Dont (great rockabilly), Everybody's Trying To Be My Baby (forget the vocal and listen to the bands playing especially in the second solo) and Every Little Thing (a gorgeous love song)). There are clear signs of progression in both the songwriting and playing.

The fact that 4 absolutely exhausted and completely drained beatles managed to even get an album together is a wonder. One reason for it getting a kicking is the world want nice happy cheerful jolly always smiling beatles (what Apple promote them as) and this album isnt , and was never going to be, that.

There are flaws (Mr Moonlight, Kansas City, Eight Days A Week (The Beatles were right to not rate it tho it did reach #1 in the US)) but its nowhere near as mediocre as is made out.

 

Overrated: I am allowed Magical Mystery Tour. I just dont get its appeal and to me it just doesnt work as a cohesive whole (3 or 4 amazing songs no dount). However i dont believe it gets that much praise anyway so maybe thats just silly.

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GeorgeTSimpson
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29 August 2012 - 10.43pm

I agree that Beatles For Sale is underrated, not that I love it but I don't think it's worse than the other early beatles albums. I go even as far as calling Beatles For Sale the best of their early albums

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Duke_of_Kirkcaldy
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30 August 2012 - 2.35am

Zig said

As for overrated,  I am not going to repeat my feelings on Pepper here. I've done it enough in other threads. The White Album is also in the overrated category for me. I never skip a song on any Beatles album but have been very tempted to skip over at least a handful on TWA. No, I will not say which ones because I don’t want to derail another thread. I just can’t help agreeing with George Martin that a fine album could have been really special had it been trimmed down to the best 14 tracks.

I totally disagree that the White Album is overrated and would've been better as just a single album.  I feel the album would've had a lot less personality and would've lacked the eclecticism that makes it unique had it been reduced.  But I do agree that Sgt. Pepper is hands-down the group's most overrated album.  The decision to omit both "Penny Lane" and "Strawberry Fields Forever" (arguably the 2 best songs recorded during these sessions) from the final album was a huge mistake.  a-hard-days-night-ringo-14  But the real problem with the album for me is that it's too Paul-heavy -- AND, more critically, unlike the John-heavy Hard Day's Nightnone of Paul's songs on here are bona fide home runs (the title track and its reprise are doubles at the most; the rest are mere singles), nor do they rank among his all-time greatest compositions.  EVERY OTHER Beatles album (Yellow Submarine notwithstanding) has at least one of Paul's all-time greatest compositions.  The album's production and overall flow is second-to-none, but could've been so much better with more superior songs at its core.  I've actually made my own preferred cut of the album, which replaces "Getting Better with "Only A Northern Song" (as track 5; "Fixing A Hole" becomes track 4), "She's Leaving Home" (I really don't get all the love for this song; it's like a more maudlin sequel to "Eleanor Rigby") with "Penny Lane" as track 6, and "Lovely Rita" with "Strawberry Fields Forever" (as track 9; "When I'm Sixty-Four" becomes track 10).  (For the record, I prefer "Getting Better" to "Fixing A Hole," but its four-to-the-bar rhythm is a little too similar to that of "Penny Lane" for comfort, IMO.)

 

There's no doubt all of their pre-Rubber Soul albums are underrated to some extent -- mostly because they're not as musically interesting as the ones that followed (at least that's my take).

 

I'd also just like to add that I don't consider Magical Mystery Tour a true album; it's HALF an album (and half a compilation).  And Yellow Submarine is like ONE-THIRD of an album.  a-hard-days-night-paul-8

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Holsety
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26 September 2012 - 2.56am

I feel like their most overrated album is Abbey Road, if anything, but even then, it's not even overrated; It's just that most people think of it when thinking of the Beatles. The White Album is also slightly overrated. Aside from that, Let It Be just because people worship Paul's songs to high heaven on it (aside from Two of Us..) 

As for underrated.. everything else? Beatles For Sale goes first, then Hard Day's Night, then Help! People really believe their pop songs aren't worth it, but they are to a point that it's ridiculous. Rubber Soul is as well, considering it's just as good as Revolver.

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26 September 2012 - 2.24pm

FlyOn13 said
Overrated: Sgt. Pepper (no question)

Underrated: Help!

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I completely agree. The songs in Sgt. Pepper are great, but people glorify the album far too much just because it's a "classic" that a lot of people haven't listened to in the first place.

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FlyOn13
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26 September 2012 - 2.38pm

bluesubmarine said

FlyOn13 said
Overrated: Sgt. Pepper (no question)

Underrated: Help!

ahdn_ringo_09

I completely agree. The songs in Sgt. Pepper are great, but people glorify the album far too much just because it's a "classic" that a lot of people haven't listened to in the first place.

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Inner Light
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26 September 2012 - 4.24pm

I agree about 'Sgt. Peppers' This album is overrated. I think why it is considered a classic is because in 1967 this album was one of the first is not the first record to feature a theme with songs running together. The inner sleeve was a first for having color and the lyrics printed on the back was also a first.

I personally prefer the older Beatles albums for 'Please Please Me' to 'Revolver' This is my favorite period though there are many great songs on those albums that followed. 

I still love a lot of the cover songs the Beatles did even though most fans prefer the songs that the group wrote. 

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Von Bontee
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26 September 2012 - 6.27pm

Ha, you don't like that it has only one Harrisong!

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Inner Light
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26 September 2012 - 7.06pm

Von Bontee said
Ha, you don't like that it has only one Harrisong!

It is interesting that he only had one song on the album considering he had three on 'Revolver'. Harrison has said that 'Sgt. Peppers' was not one of his favorites and that he wasn't that much into making that album.

'Within You, Without You' is my favorite song on that album. Very spiritual lyrics. It makes you think about your life.

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