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Live At the Hollywood Bowl
15 March 2017
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Ron Nasty said
Wired have published an interesting look at the remastering process for this, including interviews with Giles Martin and James Clarke.  

What skills. Thank goodness. Excellent result.

15 March 2017
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I agree. It just goes to show that Apple can do something right.

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To get a sense of what the team at Abbey Road Studios did, imagine deconstructing a smoothie so you’re left with the strawberries, bananas, and ice in their original forms, just so you can blend them again from scratch.

Sorry but that is bullshit, romanticised marketing at it’s best. 

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To isolate something, there are 3 ways:

1. Isolate the left, center, or right channel

It might work but chances are, you’ll get other stuff mixed in since when they mixed for stereo (and especially mono) they had to condense the multitrack.

2. Get the multi tracks and isolate whatever track or tracks you’d like

Works better but good luck finding the multitracks. Also, you have to understand how many tracks The Beatles had, for Love Me Do until With The Beatles they used 2 track machines so if you have a stereo copy of Please Please Me or With The Beatles , you’re essentially listening to the original multitracks, for I Want To Hold Your Hand until The Beatles they used 4 track machines, and for The Beatles until the end they used 8 track machines. Even in this case, some things are impossible doing this, for example the rhythm guitar bass and drums might be on 1 track so good luck separating the 3 of them.

3. The painful process of EQ altering

This works great for isolating the bass but it really sucks for isolating or removing anything else, good luck with that.

In the case of Live At The Hollywood Bowl, it was recorded live so I doubt they could isolate specific instruments unless if they had everything hooked up to a multitrack recorder and even then since the drums and vocals need microphones, some of the crowd noise is going to slip in. I have yet to have a listen but my theory is that they cut a bit of the high end to reduce the volume of the crowd noise.

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15 March 2017
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Why come up with a theory about how it was done, @Dark Overlord, when James Clarke explains how he separated everything out into individual tracks in the article?

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I listened to this album again for the first time since it came out last year and did enjoy it but I don’t think I will listen to it too frequently.

I do think it is weird that they close the album with Baby’s In Black though. Considering all of the songs they could have closed it with I think a waltz isn’t the best option, great performance but an unusual closer.

I do wish that we had some extra songs seeing as this re-release was to coincide with the Eight Days A Week film so I was thinking they could have had the Live at the Hollywood Bowl album as is and maybe a bonus disc of extra live tracks from those shows that weren’t included on the album.

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Elementary Penguin said
I listened to this album again for the first time since it came out last year and did enjoy it but I don’t think I will listen to it too frequently.

I bet it’s the same for most people. Just an anomaly, but far from perfect by todays standards.  Only way I could listen to them live would be with concert video footage. a-hard-days-night-ringo-14

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Bongo said

Elementary Penguin said
I listened to this album again for the first time since it came out last year and did enjoy it but I don’t think I will listen to it too frequently.

I bet it’s the same for most people. Just an anomaly, but far from perfect by todays standards.  Only way I could listen to them live would be with concert video footage. a-hard-days-night-ringo-14  

I agree. Speaking of which when will Apple release some of the full concerts on DVD and Blu-ray?

As far as I am aware Apple have quite a few full length concerts in the vaults that they could release in one set or knowing Apple they would probably release them all separately but the concerts should still be released in my opinion.

Sorry I went a little off topic.

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28 March 2017
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Elementary Penguin said

when will Apple release some of the full concerts on DVD and Blu-ray?
  

We’re gonna wait until the cows come home, more or less…

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28 March 2017
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We’re gonna wait until the cows come home, more or less…  

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Bongo said

Shamrock Womlbs said

We’re gonna wait until the cows come home, more or less…  

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I was hoping it would be When I Get Home but I guess I was being optimistic.

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28 March 2017
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Ha! *snort*

That was funny, @Elementary Penguin.

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Thank you @Ahhh Girl. I do like to make lame jokes.

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I like the album as a historical artifact. The Beatles themselves always said they were a great live band, and now we can actually hear a decently mixed version of a live show to verify that claim. It’s amazing how tight they were, how on-pitch their vocals were, when they could barely hear themselves or each other due to the noise.

That being said? In general I’m not as big of a fan of recorded concerts. For me the attraction of a live show is … y’know … seeing a band perform live. And live shows will never sound as good as a record, but that’s ok, because it’s live and you’re there and you’re having a great time so the memory will be that it was a great show, great performance.

I was pleased to read about John Lennon the other day that he shared a similar opinion. Lewisohn wrote, “seeing an artist live never appealed to John … he was always, as he put it, ‘a record man.'”

I probably won’t be listening to this CD very often, but it was a nice temporary distraction.

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PeterWeatherby said
I like the album as a historical artifact. The Beatles themselves always said they were a great live band, and now we can actually hear a decently mixed version of a live show to verify that claim. It’s amazing how tight they were, how on-pitch their vocals were, when they could barely hear themselves or each other due to the noise.

I just finished reading Chuck Gunderson’s Some Fun Tonight!. In it, a reporter asked John where his favorite North American venue was and without skipping a beat, he said The Hollywood Bowl. That definitely comes across on the recordings.

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I’ve loaned this from my local library having no intention to spend more than 25p on ever having a copy costing more. Apple’s incompetence, stupidy and laziness doesn’t deserve anything more.

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@50yearslate I’m moving your question over here…

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I’ve been considering getting Live at the Hollywood Bowl, is it any good? (I didn’t know where to post this)  

 

Personally, it’s not the end of the world if you never hear it. The performances are average, and the crowd noise is too loud for my liking.

That having been said, you might like it.

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@50yearslate I’m moving your question over here…

 

Personally, it’s not the end of the world if you never hear it. The performances are average, and the crowd noise is too loud for my liking.

That having been said, you might like it.  

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@50yearslate I have to agree with @The Hole Got Fixed . The album is basically just the studio versions with slighter hoarser singing and crowd noise. It’s fun if you get into it, and if you’re a completist then it’s probably essential, but other than that I wouldn’t buy a physical copy over any other Beatles album.

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It’s a must for completionists. The performances are solid considering the environment they were in. Well worth getting.

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