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Live At the Hollywood Bowl
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I've canceled my order so I can use your link. I always forget about that. I guess I don't associate Amazon with Beatles Bible in my mind. 

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To me it again highlights just how lazy, uninspired and narrow-minded Apple are when it comes to releasing the music: the easiest option possible is to reissue 'Live At The Hollywood Bowl' (albeit with the latest upgrades in quality, source etc) but then they have to do something to make it stand out so throw in a few bonus tracks.  But then why not at least give us all the remaining tracks not included? I don't mean duplicates but the songs that aren't included; why not give us 'I Feel Fine ', 'I Wanna Be Your Man ', 'If I Fell ' and 'I'm Down ' as well? It's not like the disc is full and can't fit them on.
 
And the cover is as cheap and tacky as possible and just screams tie-in. No thought whatsoever except to link to the film so more money is made.
Once upon a time The Beatles made so much effort in the cover art, now look where we are.
 
I know I must come across as a broken boring scratched record when it comes to Apple, it's just so frustrating and disappointing that anyone with half a brain could draw up something of note. Most record companies and artists make an effort nowadays yet we are stuck with Apple who do as little as possible and Paul, Ringo, Olivia and Yoko approve it - well don't object. So many people to ask for advice and they don't.
 
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I won't buy it at all

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Not to be judgmental or anything, but it does seem like the complaints are nit-picky. People have been wanting this to be released on CD for years, and now it is finally being released with improved sound and bonus tracks, and we are complaining that there are not more bonus tracks?

I see this a lot on fan forums of different kinds. Fans have their expectations, and if the expectations are not met exactly they throw a fit.

Why not tie it in with the movie? If the movie was the catalyst for them finally releasing this CD, I don't see what's wrong with tying the two in. I'm going to see the movie and buy the CD.

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Not to be judgmental or anything, but it does seem like the complaints are nit-picky. People have been wanting this to be released on CD for years, and now it is finally being released with improved sound and bonus tracks, and we are complaining that there are not more bonus tracks?

I see this a lot on fan forums of different kinds. Fans have their expectations, and if the expectations are not met exactly they throw a fit.

Why not tie it in with the movie? If the movie was the catalyst for them finally releasing this CD, I don't see what's wrong with tying the two in. I'm going to see the movie and buy the CD.  

I've never wanted the 1977 album released on CD, i've wanted a more complete authentic representation of the Beatles as a live band.

Additionally the film is not solely focusing on the Hollywood Bowl show so why the need to give us just that, why not think bigger and release complete performances from 1963 (Sweden and I think there is at least one good UK show Apple have), 1964 (Washington/Hollywood Bowl), 1965 (Washington/Shea) 1966 (Germany/Japan/Candlestick Park) on CD/DVD where possible and get the fan excited. Put it all out as a deluxe collectors set or individuals like Dylan or The Rolling Stones are and get the fans excited for once. They will pay for these and Apple will get praised for being bold for once.

We are getting short changed again and again opportunities slide by for Apple to finally get its act together. I won't list (again) what Apple have blatantly ignored yet could have released.

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I mostly agree with @Expert Textpert.  While the completion freak in me wants to get the whole concerts (and they probably should've done that), the Beatles fan in me is still excited for this.  I mean, many bands go crazy releasing live album after live album, even if they're not needed.  But to finally see an official Beatles live album is a nice treat.  In any case, the album should be great in terms of sound quality.  Remember, just my opinion.

 

I will agree that the cover is pretty bad thoughahdn_george_05

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Yes, the cover is not the best. This release makes sense to me, though. The existing catalogue should be released on CD before they start digging into the vaults. I also have no complaints with the recent Beatles 1+ release. Having the promo videos officially released was very welcome. I don't see Apple as continually disappointing to the fans at all. Maybe they are disappointing to the obsessive bootleg collectors.

At any rate, whatever they did, I think people would find something to complain about. And not everyone on here even buys this stuff. They just pirate it when it comes out.

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'1+' has issues with audio and video quality. It's like being told a new book is coming out and whilst it contains new info and reads well great there are typos and other issues where if you have some knowledge you can spot them a mile away. 

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I know about the wrong mix of A Day In The Life being used for the video, and I myself had some complaints with the mixing of the songs for the CD (some instruments not being as loud in the mix when compared to the original mixes). Are there any other issues I'm unaware of?

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Apple created a weird mix for the live 'A Hard Days Night' where for some reason they used parts of the studio take. The Ed Sullivan performance is way off speed (I think it's 'I Want To Hold Your Hand '), the end of 'Eight Days A Week ' is the wrong edit piece and out of sync with the rest of the track. 

Better quality videos are available for some of the tracks on bootlegs. 

Promo videos are needlessly missing (one or two of the 1965 Intertel videos for example). 

I'm going off the top of my head. 

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Well, I didn't notice any glaring errors when I saw it. I'll have to watch it again to see if I can be sufficiently disappointed. 😉

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Well, I didn't notice any glaring errors when I saw it. I'll have to watch it again to see if I can be sufficiently disappointed. 😉  

That's the spirit. Soon you'll be slating every Beatles book released and every McCartney interview after 1963. apple01heartapple02

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Firstly, let me say I have no great problems with the Hollywood Bowl re-entering their catalogue. Back in the dark days before the internet, when bootlegs were hard to find, and seeing actual footage was even rarer (I don't remember seeing the whole of the Washington Coliseum in '64 until the late-'80s. For most of the decade the only glimpse I'd had was the inclusion of I Saw Her Standing There  in Casey Kasem's Rock and Roll Years that was shown over here on ITV during the early hours of the morning), HB was a vital glimpse of the roar of Beatlemania before it got too sour, just as the same year's Star-Club showed us their last days as a bar band.

My problem is with the context. It is being released as an audio companion to a documentary that's stated aim is to examine their career as a touring band. So, if that documentary is to have a soundtrack, how does a few tracks each from two (I know, strictly three but...) US concerts at the same venue a year apart represent their career as a touring band?

Now, the argument that this should be released before they touch the archive, they have already touched the archive. There are sporadic live tracks across the first three of the six Anthology CDs.

I do not believe that if the film lives up to expectations then this album will prove to be anything but a huge disappointment as a soundtrack. Though different to much of Ron Howard's previous work as a director, I am excited by the film. I am hoping to hear things I haven't heard before, and those that I have in far better sound quality. And I think many of those excited by this news now, once they've seen the film, will find themselves disappointed when they realise what a proper soundtrack to the film could include.

And let us be clear about what Apple are giving as newly released tracks, three songs. When the original had eight songs missing (one of which was released on Real Love  single, I agree with @meanmistermustard and shake my head in disbelief that they didn't add all eight. I wouldn't have minded what would have been a long concert for them by that time (in the days of "half-hour, twenty minutes if we play fast") being put together.

However, that to me is the unforgivable lie that this release presents about them as a live band. Deciding to add four of the eight missing titles, should the tracklisting prove right, they have not been worked into an appropriate place in the performance. They appear to have been tagged onto the end. Therefore, as an audio documentary of The Beatles live in America in 1964 and 1965, when they started most shows with Twist and Shout and jumped into the armored truck before the last notes of Long Tall Sally  have faded. Except now, you presumably hear Paul apologising for LTS having to be the last number, before they reappear for a four-song encore, something they never did. Even if made clear in the notes, I cannot see how this cannot create an impression of encores. And there by placing I Want To Hold Your Hand  where it is, and Baby's In Black  where it is, it has you wondering why their closing number wasn't the big hit.

The original HB was an artistic impression of them live during the height of Beatlemania, while by not working the bonus tracks into the body and leaving T&S as the opener and LTS as the closer (as they regularly were), the new version actually creates a false impression of the structure of a concert during those years.

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It feels like we are being tossed scraps of food off the table and we all should be glad and praise them for being oh so kind, generous and wonderful for just thinking of us despite us knowing there is a kitchen pantry stuffed full.

I'm sorry but i'm not the person who is going to tip my cap and kiss their feet whenever a mangy sandwich is thrown my way.

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Someone posted this on Amazon:

 

The Beatles Releasing 'Hollywood Bowl' Live Album on CD for First Time Ever
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The Beatles Live at the Hollywood Bowl, a 1977 live album containing material from the Beatles' Hollywood Bowl concerts in Aug. 1964 and Aug. 1965, is coming back in an expanded release globally on Sept. 9 on CD and digital download for the first time, it was announced early today by the Beatles' Apple Corps' Ltd. and Universal Music Group. A 180-gram vinyl release will follow on Nov. 18.

The new package, a companion release to the new Ron Howard film The Beatles: Eight Days A Week : The Touring Years, includes all the tracks of the 1977 album plus four additional unreleased songs and a 24-page booklet with an essay by music journalist David Fricke. The cover photo for the album, also on the poster for the film, was taken by the group's U.S. tour manager Bob Bonis on Aug. 22, 1964 as they boarded a chartered flight in Seattle to Vancouver, B.C. for their first concert in Canada.

Today's announcement said the new release is sourced from the original three track tapes of the concerts, which have been remixed by producer Giles Martin and engineer Sam Okell at Abbey Road Studios. It was Martin's father, Sir George Martin, who produced the original album and wrote in the original liner notes, "The chaos, I might almost say panic, that reigned at these concerts was unbelievable unless you were there. Only three-track recording was possible; The Beatles had no `fold back' speakers, so they could not hear what they were singing, and the eternal shriek from 17,000 healthy, young lungs made even a jet plane inaudible," he wrote, "What did impress me was the electric atmosphere and raw energy that came over."

"A few years ago Capitol Studios called saying they'd discovered some Hollywood Bowl three track tapes in their archive," the elder Martin's son, Giles Martin, revealed in today's announcement. "We transferred them and noticed an improvement over the tapes we've kept in the London archive. Alongside this, I'd been working for some time with a team headed by technical engineer James Clarke on demix technology, the ability to remove and separate sounds from a single track. With Sam Okell, I started work on remixing the Hollywood Bowl tapes."

He said the tapes now sound better than ever. "Technology has moved on since my father worked on the material all those years ago. Now there's improved clarity, and so the immediacy and visceral excitement can be heard like never before. My father's words still ring true, but what we hear now is the raw energy of four lads playing together to a crowd that loved them. This is the closest you can get to being at the Hollywood Bowl at the height of Beatlemania. We hope you enjoy the show..."

The Beatles: Eight Days A Week : The Touring Years, directed by Howard, concentrates on the group from the years 1962 to 1966 and will include footage of the "Boys " performance featured on the Hollywood Bowl album. It will premiere six days after the album's release on Sept. 15 in the U.K., France and Germany, Sept. 16 in the U.S., Australia and New Zealand and Sept. 22 in Japan. The film will be available to U.S. subscribers of Hulu starting Sept. 17.

The original 1977 version of The Beatles At the Hollywood Bowl was assembled from two group shows in 1964 and 1965 and released on album, 8-track and cassette by Capitol Records in the U.S. and Parlophone Records in the UK in May, 1977. It debuted on the U.S. Billboard album charts on May 21, 1977 and peaked at No. 2, and hit No. 1 in the U.K. It was never, however, released on legitimate CD, but it was heavily bootlegged. One such unauthorized release featured all three shows from Aug. 23, 1964 and Aug. 29-30, 1965 in stereo, complete with malfunctioning mikes.

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I'll take improved clarity. That doesn't seem like scraps to me. Now if they had just re-released it with no improvement and no bonus tracks, maybe.

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It's a press release designed to make it sound as appealing as possible.

The Beatles: Eight Days A Week: The Touring Years, directed by Howard, concentrates on the group from the years 1962 to 1966 and will include footage of the "Boys" performance featured on the Hollywood Bowl album.

Twenty minutes of so from the 1964 show correctly synced to audio circulates amongst whoever can be bothered looking for it.

 

I'm going to take time out from here as i'm severely annoyed at what we're getting and I shouldn't ruin other peoples excitement. 

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My life's philosophy: Lower your expectations and you'll never be disappointed.

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My life's philosophy: Lower your expectations and you'll never be disappointed.  

Perhaps. They've been pretty low as far as Beatles archive material goes and I still get disappointed now and again 😉

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My life's philosophy: Lower your expectations and you'll never be disappointed.  

Isn't lowering expectations how we end with a possible President Trump, and Kim Kardashian as a role model for young women?

I already think the expectations are too low.

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Isn't lowering expectations how we end with a possible President Trump, and Kim Kardashian as a role model for young women?

I already think the expectations are too low.  

I think you are describing low IQ, not low expectations.

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