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Should Giles Martin touch Let It Be?
29 September 2019
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LET IT BE is a Phil Spector album, not George Martin.

So should/will Giles do it?

We all know Paul McCartney didn't like Spector's version and released "Naked".

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This is what made me question the job.

 

DoubleG saidI'm not mad at all that the songs are getting remixed and I'm not saying that clearer and brighter is bad, what I'm saying is that Giles is not the right man for the job.

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If he touched Abbey Road , an album that was fine the way it is, then he mind as well touch Let It Be .

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@Bongo said
LET IT BE is a Phil Spector album, not George Martin.

No, it's a Beatles album.

It would be surprising if Giles was only trusted to work on his father's productions. Were any other producer doing this series of remixes/expansions of the original albums it wouldn't even be a question.

This would probably be better placed in the "Let It Be 50th Anniversary" thread.

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Giles is the man Apple have entrusted to work on remixing the Beatles catalogue. If he wants to do the work on the 50th 'LIB ' release then he will.

Whether he should or not is down to personal opinion and what you think of what he has done so far.

Mine is that no matter who does the remixing there will be issues. The mixes and the catalogue itself are cluttered by emotion and familiarity with what has been listened to no doubt hundreds of times and become embedded in the listener's psyche over who knows how many years. Some who grew up with the US mixes swear blind that they are superior to the UK ones.

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meanmistermustard said
Some who grew up with the US mixes swear blind that they are superior to the UK ones.

  

I know, I still get a kick out of that! ahdn_john_08_gif

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I was under the impression that Giles was the mix engineer for all the remixes but I've discovered that it's an Abbey Road engineer, Sam Okell; Giles is only the producer. 

Maybe replacing Sam will fix the issue but I don't trust Giles' ears seeing as he approved all the remixes. Maybe Sam, under the right guidance, will get it right. Or maybe Giles with a mix engineer that takes more care will get it right. In an interview, Sam basically said that he starts the mixes by himself and Giles comes in later to listen, so that shows that the mixer has a lot flexibility in the process.

So no. 

The current team should not remix Let It Be . It sounds cool from a marketing standpoint to say that it was produced by a Martin and mixed at Abbey Road , but Giles ain't George and 1969 Abbey Road is not 2019 Abbey Road . They're just names now, and it's evident that they don't carry much weight. (mild pun there) 

 

And this is not about familiarity. At least not with me. These remixes are musically-technically wrong. It's not a subjective thing. The musical balances are wrong. I do this for a living. It's a main part of what every mix engineer has to do. We get the multitrack session and a rough mix made by either the recording engineer, producer or sometimes the artist. Our job is to listen intently to the rough mix and match it as close as possible while enhancing the energy and sonics. There will be changes, but they should never be noticed. The only difference that should be apparent to the producer and artist is that it sounds bigger and clearer.

What I am hearing on these remixes sounds like what happens when a mix engineer loses a gig...grossly undoing things that were clearly present in the rough mix and having complete disregard for the artist and/or producer's vision.  

With the Beatles, they're not dealing with poor quality rough mixes; they have full quality finished mixes to reference to. How much more of a road map do you need?

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I’d say ‘it would be nice to hear The Long And Winding Road without the wall of sound’ but, yknow, we have the Naked version for that...

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I don't see a problem with it.  Who else would do it?  And who says he can only do his fathers work?  He is his own person, not just his father's replacement or something like that.

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I’d say ‘it would be nice to hear The Long And Winding Road without the wall of sound’ but, yknow, we have the Naked version for that...

  

I'd like to hear a version without the naff keyboard solo. Or better yet, a stripped back version with a string quartet or something. I always thought that strings would fit this song perfectly if they were done properly, just that Spector did a sloppy job with them. 

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I definitely appreciate that Giles isn't in the habit of editing down various tracks, as his dad did on the Anthology albums (methinks George underestimated the attention span of the average fan).  ahdn_paul_01 If he gives us the full-length versions of "Teddy Boy ," the rehearsal of "Oh! Darling ," and "Maggie May/Fancy My Chances with You," as well as all the other unreleased tunes introduced during these sessions, I say go for it. I'd also love to get a new version of the LIB version of "Across The Universe " without  the choir and orchestra overdubs - AND mastered at the correct speed - which I would consider the definitive version of that song.

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