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Ranking of all tunes on Let It Be
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Very mixed bag, so it goes kind of weird.

 

1) I've Got A Feeling - one of the best Beatles song. it is so prophetic of 70s hard rock, it is so beautifully balanced between Paul and John. Paul's part is hard and unmistakably inspired, while John's section is lyrically poetic and sometimes hilarious. and the way they fusion at the end is inspiring, and to me is the most beautiful moment on the rooftop video. it even feels as a representation of the band's attitude at that point. Paul and John try to one up each other, and in the attempt end up making some of their best material. so the song also represents The BEatles as a whole, in a way. apart from Don't Let Me Down (which would easily be first place if it was on the album), this song is the greatest thing: the riff, the lyrics, the melodies, the progression. I've Got A Feeling is something else. 10/10

  

Such expressive writing @Jules. If the anniversary Let It Be movie was playing tonight, your ranking and review would have inspired me to go see it immediately!

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Re-reading this thread I notice most people criticize Dig A Pony for its "ridiculous lyrics" and I just had to make a statement given I'm an invested Dig A Pony apologist.

First off, what are you talking about? Like this is the first time a Beatles song (especially John's) doesn't make sense? I know I Am The Walrus was intended to be that way for specific reasons but what about a song like Hey Bulldog or You Never Give Me Your Money ? They're just a bunch of disjointed phrases sticked together that don't have any cohesion at all and they're beloved nontheless.

Lyrics aren't all about making sense, let alone storytelling. It's great when they are, but sometimes songs can be just about refrains. Just as a melody doesn't have to make sense to sound great, a lyric sometimes just sounds right. And a good songwriting chop is being capable of following a gimmick and filling it with great one-liners. Not every song should be that way but sometimes it's really fun and liberating. Some of my favourite songs are just one one-liner after another, without much cohesion. For example "I roll a stoney, well you can imitate anyone you know" like HELL YESSIR that lyric is hilarious.

And don't get me started on the instrumentation the guitars and bass sound superb including the solo the pace of the song is laid back yet raw and full of energy the progression is consistent but fairly progressive it has buildup and payoff plus the melodies are diverse and well rounded and that chorus oh my god that chorus is fantastic Dig A Pony is the absolute most underrated song ever listened to by the human race it should be appreciated by everyone including you and y'all that don't like it can go fuck yourselves about your day because this doesn't affect my mental health whatsoever bless y'all don't @tt meahdn_george_08

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Jules said
Re-reading this thread I notice most people criticize Dig A Pony for its "ridiculous lyrics" and I just had to make a statement given I'm an invested Dig A Pony apologist.

First off, what are you talking about? Like this is the first time a Beatles song (especially John's) doesn't make sense? I know I Am The Walrus was intended to be that way for specific reasons but what about a song like Hey Bulldog or You Never Give Me Your Money ? They're just a bunch of disjointed phrases sticked together that don't have any cohesion at all and they're beloved nontheless.

Lyrics aren't all about making sense, let alone storytelling. It's great when they are, but sometimes songs can be just about refrains. Just as a melody doesn't have to make sense to sound great, a lyric sometimes just sounds right. And a good songwriting chop is being capable of following a gimmick and filling it with great one-liners. Not every song should be that way but sometimes it's really fun and liberating. Some of my favourite songs are just one one-liner after another, without much cohesion. For example "I roll a stoney, well you can imitate anyone you know" like HELL YESSIR that lyric is hilarious.

And don't get me started on the instrumentation the guitars and bass sound superb including the solo the pace of the song is laid back yet raw and full of energy the progression is consistent but fairly progressive it has buildup and payoff plus the melodies are diverse and well rounded and that chorus oh my god that chorus is fantastic Dig A Pony is the absolute most underrated song ever listened to by the human race it should be appreciated by everyone including you and y'all that don't like it can go fuck yourselves about your day because this doesn't affect my mental health whatsoever bless y'all don't @tt meahdn_george_08


  

'You Never Give Me Your Money ' relates to the business hassles Paul and the others were going thru daily at Apple under Klein and the freedom of being away from that be it the early Beatle days or with Linda - see Joe's article.

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If @sir walter raleigh is known as the Sexy Sadie guy, I'd like to be known as the Dig A Pony guy. I loooove that song, and the live rooftop performance. It has so much feeling in the performance and the melody is just divine. One of John's best vocal performances IMO.

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meanmistermustard said 
'You Never Give Me Your Money ' relates to the business hassles Paul and the others were going thru daily at Apple under Klein and the freedom of being away from that be it the early Beatle days or with Linda - see Joe's article.

Yeah at first, but the song has multiple lyrical section, non of which were written together nor cohesively. Actually Joe's article only clarifies this further. The first piece of lyrics do relate to issues Paul had with Apple at the time but the "out of college money spent" or "one sweet dream" line don't have anything to do with that. The individual lines support a narrative slightly dividing it into a bunch of different parts, but you can't say the song has a single focused theme.

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If sir walter raleigh is known as the Sexy Sadie guy, I'd like to be known as the Dig A Pony guy. I loooove that song, and the live rooftop performance. It has so much feeling in the performance and the melody is just divine. One of John's best vocal performances IMO.

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Jules said 
First off, what are you talking about? Like this is the first time a Beatles song (especially John's) doesn't make sense? I know I Am The Walrus was intended to be that way for specific reasons but what about a song like Hey Bulldog or You Never Give Me Your Money ? They're just a bunch of disjointed phrases sticked together that don't have any cohesion at all and they're beloved nontheless.

I don't necessarily view Hey Bulldog as "disjointed phrases sticked together." 

1) They rhyme and have a purposeful meter, so they can't be really random phrases just thrown together if they all rhyme and go along with each other in the song. 

2) I agree the lyric is filled with rather silly lyric, however like any poetry it can be analyzed and interpreted to have a more concise meaning, whether John or the boys intended to or not. I personally interpret some stanzas to be a little message back to John's teenage self: "Childlike no one understands / Jackknife in your sweaty hands / Some kind of innocence is / Measured out in years / You don't know what its like to listen to your fears" and then in the other stanza can perhaps be referring to critics of Lennon? Or maybe even fans? "You think you know me but you haven't got a clue" And the repetition of "You can talk to me / If you're lonely you can talk to me" in the chorus has some sort of meaning. Again, this is just my interpretations despite whether John and Paul intended to convey complete randomness or not. 

There is cohesion. What I believe what you're going for is "the ideas in the lyric don't immediately present themselves as streamlined or easily interpretable." But that's the great thing about poetry-- it can and it can't be. Everything has different meanings for different people. That's why I overall agree with your defense for Dig A Pony

(Sorry if this overall was off-topic I was just irked by you implying that HB and YNGMYM were just randomness when if it was truly disjointed and random the meter would be off and almost nothing would rhyme) 

 

 

  

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'You Never Give Me Your Money ' relates to the business hassles Paul and the others were going thru daily at Apple under Klein and the freedom of being away from that be it the early Beatle days or with Linda - see Joe's article.

Yeah at first, but the song has multiple lyrical section, non of which were written together nor cohesively. Actually Joe's article only clarifies this further. The first piece of lyrics do relate to issues Paul had with Apple at the time but the "out of college money spent" or "one sweet dream" line don't have anything to do with that. The individual lines support a narrative slightly dividing it into a bunch of different parts, but you can't say the song has a single focused theme.

  

That's partly because YNGMYM is a medley within song within a medley-- which is what's great about it. Parts 1 & 2 have the shared theme of money, which transitions into part 3 having a theme of what I interpret as nostalgia for all of the Beatles' accomplishments and how it was just all "one sweet dream" that "came true today." But they're all cohesive with one another in that they smoothly flow into each other-- nothing's jarring nor disjointed. The narrative and themes may switch, but there's no randomness really within the song at all. 

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There is cohesion. What I believe what you're going for is "the ideas in the lyric don't immediately present themselves as streamlined or easily interpretable." But that's the great thing about poetry-- it can and it can't be. Everything has different meanings for different people. That's why I overall agree with your defense for Dig A Pony .

Yes let me clarify. My main point was that those songs weren't written (in the case of YNGMYM, they weren't put together) with the intent of saying something, but with the intent of just sounding nice. YNGMYM fits that bill. You can analyzie it all you want, but the creator himself said different sections of the song had nothing to do with each other, even if the little parts made sense within themselves, but the intent was not that. Same with Dig A Pony . "All I want is you, everything has got to be just like you want it to", that makes sense. He's in love, he'll do anything for that person. On the other hand the rest of the lyrics had nothing to do. So it makes sense at points, and then on it just colours outside the lines. Same with Hey Bulldog , same with YNGMYM. Sure there's musical cohesion, but there's not much to it lyrically. Maybe a cohesion in expression, delivery, but not in sense.

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My favourite is I've Got A Feeling , except for the line, "Everybody had a wet dream" I hate that line. 

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My favourite is I've Got A Feeling , except for the line, "Everybody had a wet dream" I hate that line.

What was up with John?

That line is hilarious I don't know what you meana-hard-days-night-paul-11

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This is a copy paste:

I've been working on this for a couple of days. I decided to go on a task of continuing and updating the work of that AvecPaix guy (not gonna @tt him cause I think he's long gone) and I averaged every post in the thread to create a decent ranking of the tracks off every album. In this case Let It Be . I clarify my process and rules below.

1 - Across The Universe (343 points)

2 - Two of Us (342 points)

3 - I’ve Got a Feeling (314 points)

4 - Get Back (288 points)

5 - Let It Be (281 points)

6 - I Me Mine (277 points)

7 - Dig A Pony (257 points)

8 - The Long And Winding Road (211 points)

9 - One After 909 (201 points)

10 - For You Blue (157 points)

11 - Dig It / Maggie Mae (tied at 52 points)

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Averaging process and rules:

A pretty classic averaging system; it goes basically by giving the maximum amount of points to the top track on every post (in this case 11) and as the list progresses into the "worst" tracks each track gets one point less. The last track gets no points. For this to apply the post must have the 12 Let It Be songs ranked.

IMPORTANT: if you think one of your rankings might have one of these ambiguous qualities that might disqualify it and you want to be counted in the averaging DON'T edit it; post it again with more detail, otherwise I won't be able to subtract the points and add them again and it won't be counted anyway.a-hard-days-night-paul-11

Particular cases:

-NO. 1- Sometimes if there is a track missing but there's a written clarification, it can be counted. In the case of Abbey Road , for instance, some people don't count Her Majesty . In that case I count the post and give no points to Her Majesty only if there is a written statement of why its missing. If one track is missing and the post doesn't have any written clarification then it is considered a mistake and therefore disqualified.

-NO. 2- The tracklist considered is taken out of the Wikipedia/RYM/Discogs "official" tracklists. This means those who rank the Abbey Road Medley as a whole don't get counted unless they clarify by writing that the tracks separately also rank that way, same with any variation of the sort.

-NO. 3- If a person implies to a previous post that "that would exactly be [their] ranking" and don't post any ranking themselves, then the points of the first person will be added a second time in behalf of the second person.

-NO. 4- Only one person each ranking. If you posted several times your changes, only the last one will be counted (unless it has any mistakes, missing tracks, etc., in that case then the last one that has no issues will be the one counted).

-NO. 5- The rankings are considered given the numbers apply to them, "1" universally represents the top spot. Unless there is a written statement that clarifies it's the other way around, this is the way it will be counted.

-NO. 6- If there are no numbers on the ranking and no written clarification it could go either way. At first I used to think the ones at the top were the number 1 spot but in some cases it just isn't that way. So I decided I'll just grab the worst rated track up to that point and I see if it falls on the top half or the bottom half. If it falls on the top half I'll consider the bottom half the top spot and if it falls on the bottom half then I'll consider the top half the top spot. It might be unfair at times as it might reverse someones' ranking if they are unlucky by voting positively a previously negatively voted track, but in the grand scheme of things I think it was mostly accurate. In case that the number of tracks is odd (A Hard Day's Night , Sgt. Pepper 's Lonely Hearts Club Band, Magical Mystery Tour , Yellow Submarine 's Side B & Abbey Road ) and the worst rated track falls in precisely the middle spot then I just take the second to worst rated and judge as to where that one falls.

-NO. 7- If there are "ties" in someone's ranking their ranking can still be counted but it won't represent exactly the ties in the overall averaging. If there is still a list-like format then I go from the bottom to the top adding points just like usual, so tied tracks can get different scores but just differing in one single point or two (unless you tie like 5 tracks together), but I think it's more fair than not letting those people participate at all. It might seem unfair but if the tied tracks were to get the same points, it would increasingly leave an averaging gap between those songs so it's mathematically better to just stick to the original adding process.

-NO. 8- If there are two tracks that are "tied" then I will just give more points to the one that is named first, regardless of descriptions, just to keep the whole thing going. Unless there's a specific written clarification of why one of the tracks is better or more of a favourite, then I'll just give more points to the one named first.

-NO. 9- However, if there's a tie between three tracks (or more) then that post will no longer be counted unless the list has a specific ranking format in which case see item "-NO. 7-".

-NO. 10- I guess that if someone doesn't want to be counted in the averaging he can ask me not to count him in but I hope nobody does that so we get his opinion tooahdn_john_08_gif

All of these rules are up to debate if someone disagrees with part of the judgement. I'm sure we can reach an agreement if they are considered questionable.

IMPORTANT: if you think one of your rankings might have one of these ambiguous qualities that might disqualify it and you want to be counted in the averaging DON'T edit it; post it again with more detail, otherwise I won't be able to subtract the points and add them again and it won't be counted anyway.a-hard-days-night-paul-11

Some more stuff:

I'll try to update it as new rankings are posted. If in enough time this proves effective then I'll ask moderators to pin these posts to the top of the thread and become OFFICIALgeorge-martin Once in a while I'll revisit the entire thread to be sure in case someone edited their previous rankings (but that might be just once in a while (unless someone wants to do it for me in which case send it to my inbox and I'll update this post)). [BTW if there is already a thread or post about this stuff then tell me right away so I can erase this and not look like a foola-hard-days-night-paul-8]

Also in time we could use this information to add some more statistics (just to give it flavourahdn_george_05). Someone can request them to me and I'll see how to add them.

Also here's a playlist with the results from worst to best in case you want to see how effective it proves in practice (I'll try edit these as well):

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Phil Spector:

 

1-best

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1. Dig It

2. I've Got A Feeling

3. Two of Us

4. Get Back

5. One After 909

6. Dig A Pony

7. Maggie Mae

8. Across The Universe

9. I Me Mine

10. For You Blue

11. Let it Be

12. Long and Winding Road

 

*Note: I LOVE the Phil Spector Mix. I Hate the McCartney Mix, and I have a close running for 1st with Glyn Johns.

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nice to see Dig It at number one. I love the extended ravings in the January 69 rehearsals 

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nice to see Dig It at number one. I love the extended ravings in the January 69 rehearsals 

You know if it was released completely (full 12 minutes) on the original Let It Be it would've been groundbreaking and beloved by many. I wouldn't put that 50-minute snipit in my first spot by any means but finally someone that prefers it over Maggie Mae which is so much worseblue-meanie

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12) Maggie Mae - Honestly, I hate it.

11) Dig A Pony - Boooooooring.

10) Dig It - I would like it to last longer, it's an excellent jam.

9) Let It Be - I think it's highly overrated. it's not bad but it's not the best of all time.

8) One After 909 - It's better than the 1963 version, but I don't like it that much. Btw, I love the solo and the main riff.

7) For You Blue - Very good song, I really like it. Maybe the lyrics are simple, but they are pretty good.

6) The Long And Winding Road - It's excellent, but the production makes me put it so low. I prefer the version of Let It Be ... Naked.

5) Get Back - Another excellent song, I especially like the atmosphere that Billy Preston gives it. But again the production is bad. I like the version of the single much more.

4) I Me Mine - George demonstrating the ability he had to write such good songs at the time, even though it is a short song, it is excellent and of the few songs that in my opinion are well produced.

3) Two Of Us - A very personal song. I always thought it was John and Paul, and even today I like to think about it. Georges bass melody on guitar is excellent and the acoustic guitars are beautiful.

2) I've Got A Feeling - Almost perfect, if it weren't for the production. The part when they both sing their songs is sublime.

1) Across The Universe - It's perfect. Again, production is pretty bad, but what does it matter? The lyrics are perfect, the atmosphere is fantastic and it's a song that always makes me reflect on some aspects of my life. I also prefer the Let It Be ... Naked version.

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