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'Let It Be' 50th Anniversary - Speculation
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I want Madman, Watching Rainbows, The Palace of the King of Birds, a full-length Dig It and All Things Must Pass properly mixed, balanced and edited from the available materials for a start even if that means combining available versions, with modern day overdubs by Paul and Ringo over the original Nagra sound to flesh them out if possible. I can dream...

I can't imagine a worse nightmare. I'm happy with having interesting takes of things as captured on tape and would think it a step backwards if they started offering newly created "Frankenstein" versions. Among the biggest complaints about their treatment of their back catalogue have been over the composite mixes they created for Anthology and the fixes they applied to Let It Be ... Naked to remove mistakes.

Give me "as nature intended" in the best sound quality possible every time.

Just glad there isn't a chance in hell that Paul and Ringo would do any overdubbing...

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Ron Nasty said

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I want Madman, Watching Rainbows, The Palace of the King of Birds, a full-length Dig It and All Things Must Pass properly mixed, balanced and edited from the available materials for a start even if that means combining available versions, with modern day overdubs by Paul and Ringo over the original Nagra sound to flesh them out if possible. I can dream...

I can't imagine a worse nightmare. I'm happy with having interesting takes of things as captured on tape and would think it a step backwards if they started offering newly created "Frankenstein" versions. Among the biggest complaints about their treatment of their back catalogue have been over the composite mixes they created for Anthology and the fixes they applied to Let It Be ... Naked to remove mistakes.

Give me "as nature intended" in the best sound quality possible every time.

Just glad there isn't a chance in hell that Paul and Ringo would do any overdubbing...

  

So basically you are denying the validity of such great posthumous albums as Queen - Made In Heaven and Jimi Hendrix - The Cry Of Love amongst countless others by many, many artists. Working on tracks to bring them from raw diamonds to something appropriate for release happens time after time, why should The Beatles be any different if the tracks can be completed by Giles Martin, jst as he made a good job out of Love? I know the intention was to hear them as nature intended but Kum Back is hardly a pleasurable listen, though it's an interesting one.   

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Old Soak said

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I want Madman, Watching Rainbows, The Palace of the King of Birds, a full-length Dig It and All Things Must Pass properly mixed, balanced and edited from the available materials for a start even if that means combining available versions, with modern day overdubs by Paul and Ringo over the original Nagra sound to flesh them out if possible. I can dream...

I can't imagine a worse nightmare. I'm happy with having interesting takes of things as captured on tape and would think it a step backwards if they started offering newly created "Frankenstein" versions. Among the biggest complaints about their treatment of their back catalogue have been over the composite mixes they created for Anthology and the fixes they applied to Let It Be ... Naked to remove mistakes.

Give me "as nature intended" in the best sound quality possible every time.

Just glad there isn't a chance in hell that Paul and Ringo would do any overdubbing...

  

So basically you are denying the validity of such great posthumous albums as Queen - Made In Heaven and Jimi Hendrix - The Cry Of Love amongst countless others by many, many artists. Working on tracks to bring them from raw diamonds to something appropriate for release happens time after time, why should The Beatles be any different if the tracks can be completed by Giles Martin, jst as he made a good job out of Love? I know the intention was to hear them as nature intended but Kum Back is hardly a pleasurable listen, though it's an interesting one.   

  

I agree with RN that would be disgusting.  To respond to your second comment, there's a difference between a posthumous studio album, and a studio takes album.  With the former I can roll with overdubs and stuff.  Even things like Free As A Bird and Real Love from Anthology were fine with me.  But when it comes to making a compilation of rough studio takes(like Anthology or the bonus disc's on these 50th anniversary releases), overdubbing new audio is an absolute sin in my book.  Overdubbing in new material is all good and has its place, but its place is not in this project where history is to be displayed.

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So basically you are denying the validity of such great posthumous albums as Queen - Made In Heaven and Jimi Hendrix - The Cry Of Love amongst countless others by many, many artists. Working on tracks to bring them from raw diamonds to something appropriate for release happens time after time, why should The Beatles be any different if the tracks can be completed by Giles Martin, jst as he made a good job out of Love? I know the intention was to hear them as nature intended but Kum Back is hardly a pleasurable listen, though it's an interesting one.   

  

I agree, the world is a better place for the existence of posthumous Hendrix albums. But most of the recordings on "Cry of Love" were complete, or in a state of near-completion, requiring only mixing. I don't think very much of anything was overdubbed, aside from Mitch Mitchell re-recording some drum tracks. And these were done in the days and weeks following Hendrix' death, not 50 years after the fact.

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Also, Free As A Bird and Real Love have the sentimental value in that the tracks are the other three Beatles finishing pieces John started. This puts them on the same level as what the rest of Queen did with Freddie's last songs and recording etc, and it's quite a heartwarming thing in both cases, IMO. Paul and Ringo adding to 50 year old demos (that they participated in) now would just feel odd to me, and not particularly necessary. For me, the main purpose of releasing additional Beatles material at this stage is for the enjoyment of fans who can get more of an insight into the studio process, not to turn those demos into proper songs. 

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It would be especially odd in this case given that Paul did a version of the Let It Be album where he took out instruments. It will be hard enough to sell the 50th anniversary remix let alone sell additions. TBH I would much rather have a remixed Revolver instead.

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Maybe we can get these in order:

The album songs

The naked songs

The rooftop songs

and the outtakes

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It would be especially odd in this case given that Paul did a version of the Let It Be album where he took out instruments. It will be hard enough to sell the 50th anniversary remix let alone sell additions. TBH I would much rather have a remixed Revolver instead.

  

I mean I would personally still buy a LIB remixed with additions just because its the Beatles how could I not but I completely agree about its hypothetical lack of appeal to average consumers overall. I'm not opposed to a remix of LIB , but I won't be at all surprised if there's not as much mainstream hype for it as there was for the Sgt Pepper 's, White Album , and Abbey Road remixes. 

And yeah yes please I would absolutely love to have a remixed Revolver over this. 

 

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Maybe we can get these in order:

The album songs

The naked songs

The rooftop songs

and the outtakes

  

That's most likely what it would be, but I'm a bit iffy on the inclusion of the Naked mixes. 

Even if the remix doesn't happen I really hope that they release the rooftop songs and the outtakes at least to go along with the movie redo (maybe a soundtrack with extras?). That would be cool. 

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My biggest wishes for Let it Be 50th anniversary are the releases of the songs that were shown in the film but were not included on the album and the rooftop concert. Although I wouldn't mind some remixing, I wouldn't want the remixes to get in the way of the live concept of the songs and album. Let it Be was meant to be a rough and live album done in the style of their early days, so too much remixing would mess with that aspect. The remixes on Sgt. Pepper , the White Album and Abbey Road were fine for the most part as the concepts for those albums were vastly different from that of Let it Be. I wouldn't want Paul or Ringo to do overdubs on some of the outtakes (unless they released the original outtakes along with the finished ones) as those outtakes were part of the history, and as stated before, it really wouldn't make much sense as Paul and Ringo were already performing on the outtakes in the first place. As far as the movie itself goes, maybe the Blu-ray/DVD with a remastered image would work. The original documentary could go on one disc, and the unreleased footage could go on a separate bonus features disc. As much as I would like the new film to be re-released in theatres, the only people who would go to see it are Beatles fans, and it would probably be a commercial flop. It would make more sense to just release it straight to Blu-ray/DVD, or maybe air it as part of a TV special. The album, the documentary and maybe a booklet on the making of the album like they had in the Abbey Road anniversary could be put together in a box set. In the end, I'll be excited for whatever Apple decides to release, and I'll be hopeful for a 55th anniversary remix of Revolver next year (or a 55th anniversary re-release/release of outtakes for Help !/Rubber Soul this year).

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I would be amazed if the Jackson film doesn't get a cinema release, @TangerineTrees. There is no way it will be straight to DVD/Blu-Ray.

Ron Howard's Eight Days A Week , which is the most recent Beatles film, received a cinema release, and while it didn't set the box office on fire, taking $12.3 million, it more than made back it's $5 million budget.

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a-hard-days-night-ringo-8a-hard-days-night-ringo-8a-hard-days-night-ringo-8 I absolutely need for this to be released in cinema so I can see my boys on the silver screen surrounded by fellow Beatles fans, monching on Raisinettes and popcorn. There's nothing like crying in a movie theater. 

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It will get a limited cinema release, the same way as 'EDAW'. The amount of Beatles fans who attend will make it a no-brainer financially.

My question is will there be a cinema release of the original film as well; I'd love a double bill and to sit in the cinema watching Beatles for 4 hours.

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This project is my most anticipated thing this year hands down, and I think it will get a cinema release. It would be strange if it didn’t. This film especially would be such a spine tingling experience with the content they have lined up. The end of the road for the band with all of those interactions. I’d see it more than once in cinemas, believe me. 

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Should be noted that unlike the Beatles other films this hasn't been officially released in decades and whilst bootleg copies do exist, the quality of the footage when released will be much improved compared to what circulates (unless Apple does something stupid like decide it should be in b&w to match 'AHDN ' or have the colours inverted as a bizarre nod to the 'LIBN' album cover). There have been numerous HQ clips in the Anthology and a handful of promos (plus a brief cameo in '8DAW') but that's it. To see the new film (which is also important, it's not just the 1969 movie getting put back out like with 'Help ' or 'AHDN (the latter got a cinema release in the 2000's?)) in the cinema in all it's glory will be a massive pull to the fans. Peter Jackson being involved will also get people intrigued and want to see it (let's hope his name isn't prominently included in the artwork, what they did with Ron Howard was just stupid but all that artwork looked a cheap cash-in).

Yoko also gave her latest 'Imagine ' film in the cinema for one night only so it is a thing.

 

For some reason I have this recall of seeing 'MMT' in the cinema when it got its DVD release, is that right? I clearly remember on the big screen the Major scene which I detest and just hating it even more. I know the BBC broadcast it at the time but that's not it.

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Reading all of your points, I definitely agree that Let it Be should be released in theaters (if only for a limited time). My question is now the same as @meanmistermustard's: Would they release both the Peter Jackson documentary with the original restored movie?

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Unfortunately i’m pessimistic that the original film will see an official or theatrical  release given the mixed views and desires to keep it in the vaults from various Beatles camps. i thought that was a primary reason for the creation of this new film for the 50th anniversary. 

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Unfortunately i’m pessimistic that the original film will see an official or theatrical  release given the mixed views and desires to keep it in the vaults from various Beatles camps. i thought that was a primary reason for the creation of this new film for the 50th anniversary. 

  

Yeah. I do agree with you, we all know the four Applees have vetoed all possible releases of the film due to their memories and appearance in the film. I am trying to be hopeful they can look beyond their own issues and see the value and historical worth of the original film and put it out - even as a bonus in a super-deluxe version like they did with the original 1965 stereo mixes of 'Help !' and 'Rubber Soul ' in the 2009 mono box. I don't care how we get it just put it out.

I also still fear a revision of the times and it's spun into some great old jolly time with four mates having a great laugh whilst recording their massive selling #1 swansong album before slowly walking into the sunset with their wives with a single tear rolling down each of their faces. The film ending with John saying if Yoko gets the blame for them splitting, can she get the credit for all the great music that came afterwards.

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It's already been announced that the original will be re-released. It was stated in the original press release. I expect to see it it as a bonus feature of the DVD/Blu-Ray release.

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It's already been announced that the original will be re-released. It was stated in the original press release. I expect to see it it as a bonus feature of the DVD/Blu-Ray release.

  

Well, there you go.

Since it's Apple, buried in a $4,000 box or available as a $300 download.

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Good to see that the original film is at least being acknowledged. One of my pet peeves is how those controlling the releases like to pick and choose parts of Beatles history as they see fit, often for their own benefit and at the expense of telling the whole story. It may not be pretty, but the LIB film is an integral part of The Beatles history. 

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